This sounds a bit to me like "how could John Hammond allow the creation of dinosaurs that could escape and reproduce in Jurassic Park?"
Eh, I thought to make the same joke, but starting with the K close up and the music fading in.
This is a lazy attempt =P
Same point though. Life finds a way.bad analogy, Hammond built those dinos to not be able to breed.
And they did it anyway. Wallace built his replicants not to be able to disobey, and they did it anyway. Quite an apt analogy, I think.bad analogy, Hammond built those dinos to not be able to breed.
So like the ending of Drive?
I've never read it, but I'm curious, is the sequel novel Blade Runner 2: Edge of Human still "canon" (or at least, could it still plausibly fit in the timeline)?
I've never read it, but I'm curious, is the sequel novel Blade Runner 2: Edge of Human still "canon" (or at least, could it still plausibly fit in the timeline)?
None of those books have ever been canon.
Don't know if its been mentioned already but that baseline test was shaped by Gosling's line memorization technique he learned from an acting coach.Transcript for the first baseline test I found on Reddit:
It's so unique and intense and amazing, perhaps iconic in the years to come. Of course it also hints at things to come for K.
My thoughts exactly.I can't believe that qualifies as an article worth publishing, not because it's a topic which doesn't have merit but there's so little effort put into it.
I've never read it, but I'm curious, is the sequel novel Blade Runner 2: Edge of Human still "canon" (or at least, could it still plausibly fit in the timeline)?
Saw this on Reddit.
tl;dr: Ryan Gosling wrote the baseline test scene that they used in the movie.
Don't know if its been mentioned already but that baseline test was shaped by Gosling's line memorization technique he learned from an acting coach.
Doubt it will be but I'd be very curious to see the full thing as an extra when the home release comes out. Also this really makes me want the art book l, but it is pricey.Saw this on Reddit.
tl;dr: Ryan Gosling wrote the baseline test scene that they used in the movie.
I started rereading the novel today and I had a small question, I hope someone has an answer. Why does Pris introduce herself as Rachael the first time she meets with JF? I can't recall if it was explained later, but I don't believe that's the case.
Thanks! Yeah, if she didn't want to give her real name she might as well have given a made up one, instead of a real/famous one. Maybe she was testing him somewhat.In the novel, Pris is the same model android as Rachael Rosen, a Nexus-6. The other androids are all acquainted with Rachael. Pris is in hiding, and she's wary of John. On the spur of the moment, she gives Rachael's name. Perhaps she thinks a false name will help her to cover her tracks, and is hoping he's too dim to recognise the surname. When he does, she laughs it off and gives her real name. She says it's her married name, but also insists she be addressed as Miss Stratton. She comes across as cunning but naive to me.
That doesnt sound like a convincing explanation to me. Its not something Wallace would allow to happen, ie my Replicants are obedient until they start thinking they are special... there is no fail safe in that and whoever approved the production of new replicants because of this would be naive to say the least.
Came back from a second viewing last night. Everything's crystallizing for me in a big way and really loved the movie more than I did the first time.
Only thing I actively disliked:
The line that went "Dying for the right cause is the most human thing we can do". Far too easy, and actively misleading given what actually happens in the end.
K isn't rejecting the Rebels, he's ignoring their desires because he knows something they don't regarding the nature of their "Messiah". Deckard's daughter is not a fighter, and she's already done far more for their cause through her memory creation than she ever could as a nominal leader.
Well, for starters, he knows who she is!Show me what he knows that they dont about her? Where is this messiah stuff? They know Deckard impregnated Rachel. K knows nothing more than they do.
Has this article been posted?
Am I wrong for thinking "that's the point"? The world is meant to be fucked up and backwards.
CELLS.I cannot get the Baseline scene out of my head and I want to go see the movie again just for that.
I think with Joi it's definitely left ambiguous how much was just her programing and how much was her really loving K. However, I think it's clear by the end that K believes that none of it was true and she was just doing what she was programmed to do.
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I cannot get the Baseline scene out of my head and I want to go see the movie again just for that.
Has this article been posted?
https://i-d.vice.com/en_uk/article/evpwga/blade-runner-2049-sexist-misogynistic-mess
Am I wrong for thinking "that's the point"? The world is meant to be fucked up and backwards.
What a complete imbecile.At the risk of a spoiler alert, there is one woman (Carla Juri's Dr Ana Stelline) who is held to be more precious than the others, but she is holed up in a literal glass cage and infantilised to fuck, living in fantasy worlds of her own making.
Well, for starters, he knows who she is!
They do not. They know it's a girl. K is able to put 2 and 2 together and figure it out, but does not share that information with them.But they know too?
Wife and I are going to see the movie again tonight. Can't let this movie lose out to Happy Death Date! I'm doing my part! Who's with me?!
I am still trying to adequately formulate this thought, but I think one key element of what we see in Jois story, and what makes it so integral to the plot, is her attempt at manipulation of K in the same way that all the other forces around him also try to control his actions. Its not as overt as his slave-like relationship with the LAPD or the replicant army attempting to co-opt him, but its there.
Ultimately Joi is a product, and on the surface her purpose is to serve K in whatever he wants. But when you take the notion that Wallace, while a hippie megalomaniac, is ultimately just a businessman, then it makes more sense that K is actually the product, and Joi is a means to an end. Think of it like the way Facebook works today. You use Facebook as a user, but ultimately the platform exists to squeeze as much information out of you as possible, sell you as a product to advertisers, and keep you engaged with it at all costs.
Joi walked hand-in-hand with K on his journey of trying to find his specialness, but at the same time as he was discovering some greater purpose than going home at the end of the day to her and a bowl of protein sludge, she began grasping at straws to try to draw him back to her. Thats why she pulled the Her thing and hired a prostitute. Thats why at the very threat of her own death, her defense mechanism was to say to K I love you to try to get him to protect her. In that case he couldnt stop what was going to happen, but with Joi being a mass produced product, I can see it being a repeatable algorithm. Like when you try to deactivate your Facebook account, it starts showing you pictures of your friends and saying, Do you really want to miss out on this?
....and Wallace built his replicants not to run....?bad analogy, Hammond built those dinos to not be able to breed.
They do not. They know it's a girl. K is able to put 2 and 2 together and figure it out, but does not share that information with them.
http://www.vulture.com/2017/10/blade-runner-2049-threesome-sex-scene-how-did-they-make-it.htmlYou have several things happening for the first time in the scene, said Villeneuve, who met with Vulture over the weekend to discuss a sequence that he had labored to keep secret for months. You have a man whos being touched by a woman for the first time. You have a hologram that feels she can be real for the first time. And you have a prostitute whos being kissed by a man with love for the first time, and shes not sure how to deal with that.