Glass Rebel
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Box Office: 'Wonder Woman' passes 'Civil War' today, 'Iron Man 3' tomorrow
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This is the monster we created in the BvS review thread.
The DCEU is still mostly trash though.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
You know the Fast and Furious team are weighing the options, and the amount of money they can make, by bringing Gadot's character back for the next film.
It would be absolutely crazy the money they could make.
It would be absolutely crazy the money they could make.
I just watched it for the first time today. What really stood out, and it's something the Marvel films have always lacked, is a spectacular soundtrack that is memorable and emotional. I put this close to Nolans Batman score, its perfect and can move you from compassion to out-right war, those drum beats as the guitar rifts hits are so damn satisfying. WB DC movies really know how to make soundtracks that fit thier characters (Batman/WW), WW is burned into my memory simply due to the stellar work by Rupert Gregson Williams. Amazing stuff.
Oh and the film was brilliant, better then any Marvel movie I've seen to date. Great success story, hope we see more of Diana working with ordinary hero's, other remarkable humans that displayed great courage.
Oh and the film was brilliant, better then any Marvel movie I've seen to date. Great success story, hope we see more of Diana working with ordinary hero's, other remarkable humans that displayed great courage.
SwordStruck
Member
Nice results from this one for DC and Warner.
For reference, Civil War had a gross of $408,084,349 after 20 weeks in the box office. Wonder Woman just hit $408,939,021 after 14 weeks. But to be clear, this is only including the domestic numbers. Civil War has a much higher worldwide gross and isn't likely to be passed by WW.
For reference, Civil War had a gross of $408,084,349 after 20 weeks in the box office. Wonder Woman just hit $408,939,021 after 14 weeks. But to be clear, this is only including the domestic numbers. Civil War has a much higher worldwide gross and isn't likely to be passed by WW.
Captain Zyrain
Member
Finally watched WW the other day, it was good, not great, but enjoyable enough.
Biggest con was the CGI didn't look great to me, compared to Marvel/Star Wars kind of things. Some was fine, but others brought me out of the suspension of disbelief.
Biggest pro was it actually made me want to see more of the DCEU. I haven't seen BvS yet, so I might check that out next.
Biggest con was the CGI didn't look great to me, compared to Marvel/Star Wars kind of things. Some was fine, but others brought me out of the suspension of disbelief.
Biggest pro was it actually made me want to see more of the DCEU. I haven't seen BvS yet, so I might check that out next.
It's available digitally, but not on blu-ray/dvd yet
The number of weeks for Wonder Woman to hit $408M vs Civil War is a pointless comparison because Civil War was basically done by this point in its run.
Wonder Woman only passed Civil War launch aligned this week. Civil War was still higher after 13 weekends. However, Wonder Woman made $1.6M in its 13th weekend, while Civil War made $75k. Expansion into dollar cinemas added a bit over $1M more to Civil War's total over the following two months, but its last million dollar weekend was weekend #8. It had made 99% of its domestic total by then.
Bruce Springsteen
Member
You're acting like Joker movies wouldn't make bank, they're a business first
Definitely feels like the web and Netflix have crippled the subpar movies Hollywood likes to put out.
There's a near endless catalogue of schlocky, entertaining shows/movies which allows you to avoid spending $14 on crap at a theater.
I don't remotely think that a Joker movie "making bank" is a guarantee.
TheTylerDurden
Member
What you call corny, many others call true heartfelt emotion, a relatable hero with true and good intentions, and a film not afraid to stand it's own ground based on these values.
What you call corny is a primary factor in it's finding it's audience and success.
Interesting, since the score (and low budget effects) are the parts of the movie that I would place as its weakest points. We finally had a DC hero as well realized since Christopher Reeve's Superman, and she did not have a musical score that could match her.
With fanboys everything is either a 1/10 or a 10/10. And comic fanboys are some of the very worst.
Congrats to DC and the WW crew. I hope JL is half as good.
godhandiscen
There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
I want to watch it again. The ending is so epic.
As far as I'm concerned, I'm a "comic fanboy." I like comics. I like nerdy shit. I have no problem admitting I think Marvel is better than DC overall because I like their characters more. But I want both to do well.
Wonder Woman was great and the first truly good DC movie since TDK (which likely still sits in my top 5 comic movies). Both companies putting out good movies is a good thing for a) fans of comics and b) competition. It pushes them to continue getting better.
This is the correct and proper perspective.
Alex_Mexico
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MHWilliams
Member
Excellent news.
A couple points:
- Hey Hollywood, don't assume the audience isn't there because it doesn't fit into the normal demographic you aim for. Countless movies have shown this and Wonder Woman is another in the pile.
- Hey WB, see? If you make a great film, your characters have the ability to soar high. I love these characters. Stop making bad films. Thanks.
- Hey Marvel. Best get to Black Panther and Captain Marvel.
It's about 50/50 domestic/international. It's about $17 million below Suicide Squad overseas, and way below BvS. It's not bad, just stronger on the domestic side in comparison to other DCEU films.
A couple points:
- Hey Hollywood, don't assume the audience isn't there because it doesn't fit into the normal demographic you aim for. Countless movies have shown this and Wonder Woman is another in the pile.
- Hey WB, see? If you make a great film, your characters have the ability to soar high. I love these characters. Stop making bad films. Thanks.
- Hey Marvel. Best get to Black Panther and Captain Marvel.
It's about 50/50 domestic/international. It's about $17 million below Suicide Squad overseas, and way below BvS. It's not bad, just stronger on the domestic side in comparison to other DCEU films.
broncobuster
Banned
Among superhero movies internationally, it performed average to slightly below average. It's just done extraordinarily well domestic.
Astral Dog
Member
Who thought quality and an iconic female lead would mean something
I was gonna say....This is the tact these threads have taken on for a while. No use fighting it at this point.
Anyway, I'm as delighted as I've ever been with Wonder Woman's success.
Tender Joe
Member
Agreed.
I enjoyed both quite a bit.
The toxicity in threads like this reminds me of GCN/XBOX/PS2 era GameFAQs type shit. Relax, neckbeards.
"Best in the genre" is what I was referring to. Thought it was pretty mid-tier MCU and, as I literally just posted, a big disappointment after Winter Soldier
Not everyone who shits on the DC movies does so because they are blinded by Marvel fanboyism. Plenty do so because they feel that the films butchered characters that they've grown up reading and they want them better represented. Screaming fanboy at everyone is just as bad as actually being said fanboy, honestly...people can just not like stuff sometimes.
Wonder Woman deserves it because it was good
Civil War getting knocked down is still a win because it was 2nd best on top
IM3 I'm still confused but that was post Avengers 1 so I guess it that was good.
All 3 are winners because honestly 10 years ago, we were recovering from Spidey 3 and X-Men 3, a year away from 2 great cape films and 20 years ago, all he had was Batman and Robin and fucking Steel, Blade was a year later and X-Men was barely getting set up.
Basically, be blessed we got good Cape films. Please stop with the Fanboy Shit.
Civil War getting knocked down is still a win because it was 2nd best on top
IM3 I'm still confused but that was post Avengers 1 so I guess it that was good.
All 3 are winners because honestly 10 years ago, we were recovering from Spidey 3 and X-Men 3, a year away from 2 great cape films and 20 years ago, all he had was Batman and Robin and fucking Steel, Blade was a year later and X-Men was barely getting set up.
Basically, be blessed we got good Cape films. Please stop with the Fanboy Shit.
No hope for Justice League though,
Watched it for the first time today.
Loved
+Soundtrack
+Pacing
+Stranger in A Strange Land Trope (Soft Spot for this)
+Gal Gadot
+Action
Not a Fan Of
-Ares, great actor, but he didn't really seem to add anything to the story other than someone to beat up at the end.
-Rag-Tag crew, they weren't particularly interesting or useful, more story fat to trim like Ares
-Story Framing with Batman gift, no need to remind me of the rest of the DC universe
-post production scene lighting, not a fan of the look or pallete Zach Snyder / WB uniformly applied across the DCEU
Overall, pretty fantastic, hope the rest of the DCEU can get things cleaned up to this level.
Loved
+Soundtrack
+Pacing
+Stranger in A Strange Land Trope (Soft Spot for this)
+Gal Gadot
+Action
Not a Fan Of
-Ares, great actor, but he didn't really seem to add anything to the story other than someone to beat up at the end.
-Rag-Tag crew, they weren't particularly interesting or useful, more story fat to trim like Ares
-Story Framing with Batman gift, no need to remind me of the rest of the DC universe
-post production scene lighting, not a fan of the look or pallete Zach Snyder / WB uniformly applied across the DCEU
Overall, pretty fantastic, hope the rest of the DCEU can get things cleaned up to this level.
TheTylerDurden
Member
Great that you liked it!
Probably the thing that gets the most criticism is the villain/ending, where many see it as a pointless slugfest. There is an awful lot more going on there.
You might feel a bit differently on a second viewing, or maybe not. Surprised you didn't like the 'crew' - I rather liked them all.
Strider_Blaze
Member
I'm honestly glad to see WW being successful at all.
And I'm really not surprised about the Marvel and DC rivalry again, but come on it's a long time rivalry that's been going on for decades.
I personally hold both WW and CW in high regards, and all of the cast and crew worked so hard on both (even the Snyders, just their directing has been mostly awful). I wouldn't say both a perfect and I don't ignore their flaws, but I personally enjoyed them.
As long as the money the films make is enough for both WB and Marvel Studios to warrant them as successes, I could care less about which film makes which and just give the cast and crew an imaginary pat on the back. I would probably want to give them a hug if I happened to stumble onto them in real life.
Regardless, WB still needs more than one legitimately good film to have me convinced that they know what they are doing with the DCEU. And this is as a person who wants to see the DCEU and MCU co-exist well.
And I'm really not surprised about the Marvel and DC rivalry again, but come on it's a long time rivalry that's been going on for decades.
I personally hold both WW and CW in high regards, and all of the cast and crew worked so hard on both (even the Snyders, just their directing has been mostly awful). I wouldn't say both a perfect and I don't ignore their flaws, but I personally enjoyed them.
As long as the money the films make is enough for both WB and Marvel Studios to warrant them as successes, I could care less about which film makes which and just give the cast and crew an imaginary pat on the back. I would probably want to give them a hug if I happened to stumble onto them in real life.
Regardless, WB still needs more than one legitimately good film to have me convinced that they know what they are doing with the DCEU. And this is as a person who wants to see the DCEU and MCU co-exist well.
Great that you liked it!
Probably the thing that gets the most criticism is the villain/ending, where many see it as a pointless slugfest. There is an awful lot more going on there.
You might feel a bit differently on a second viewing, or maybe not. Surprised you didn't like the 'crew' - I rather liked them all.
I guess I'll stew on it a bit more, certainly will pick up the blueray...
Maybe it was unavoidable, but Im tired of the whole 'You dont owe mankind anything / But theyre so much more' storyline. DC even already did it with superman.
And the born sexy yesterday trope was also tiring. But I imagine alot of theatre goers were laughing their asses off at diana getting giddy over babies and icecream(omg just like real women
). And she read all 12 volumes about human pleasure or something, so adorable.The action scenes against soldiers were great, but the ones against the main villains omg. We get constant threads about how unmemorable marvel villains are but WW easily has the worst. The palpatine style 'let your hate flow' scene with Mr. Mustache, so bad.
That said I didnt hate the movie, Id say it was as good as Captain America: TFA. I give it a solid 6.5/10
SwordStruck
Member
One point of comparison isn't any more valid than the other, it's all about how you look at it.
Subpar Spatula
Banned
Shame most folks can't understand what Ares represents and how he's just an outdated way of thinking. Like, he's a wink wink nudge nudge at the genre as a whole to show you that your adventures need to be more than black and white.
Maybe it was unavoidable, but Im tired of the whole 'You dont owe mankind anything / But theyre so much more' storyline. DC even already did it with superman.
And the born sexy yesterday trope was also tiring. But I imagine alot of theatre goers were laughing their asses off at diana getting giddy over babies and icecream(omg just like real women
The action scenes against soldiers were great, but the ones against the main villains omg. We get constant threads about how unmemorable marvel villains are but WW easily has the worst. The palpatine style 'let your hate flow' scene with Mr. Mustache, so bad.
That said I didnt hate the movie, Id say it was as good as Captain America: TFA. I give it a solid 6.5/10
Her liking ice cream had nothing to do with her gender. Men can like ice cream, it's a popular treat that she was exposed to for the first. And reading 12 volumes of an early examination of human sexuality is adorable? Well okay, I guess
Wait. what? People have been treating her electric cello with the same enthusiasm as the John William's Superman theme ( I think Zimmer's theme is better but that's another topic). I mean google "Wonder Woman theme" and click first link
DecoReturns
Member
I thought the Ice Cream part was a reference to an Wonder Woman animated movie?
What does the 20 week total for Civil War matter though when the film was basically done making money after 7 or 8? It's not like Wonder Woman is setting speed records for any of these grosses. The last two months have been Wonder Woman tortoising its way past bigger openers on the All Time domestic list (most of which ran out of steam in a month or two), thanks to great legs.
"Made in 14 weeks what Civil War made in 20!" sounds impressive, but it doesn't really mean anything when those last 7 weeks for Civil War added about $900k (0.22%) to its total. Marvel could have pulled the film 7 weeks earlier (after weekend #14), and we'd be having this thread on Saturday (after Wonder Woman's Friday gross) instead of Sunday.
Strangelove77
Member
Her theme song is fucking sweet.
I can't think of any particular ideas in BvS that I liked, and I think it was quite a step back from MoS. I really did try to like it though. Some of the themes were interesting, but they are never really explored. Such a shame. Batman looking over his emails to discover JL members is like the laziest shit ever.
SwordStruck
Member
What matters is the total, not the individual weeks. But if you need to put a spin on it to make Civil War look better in this scenario then be my guest.
I'm not sure where you are going with this line of thinking but the fact that you accused kswiss of all people of spin means you are way off the mark with this one.
SwordStruck
Member
"Civil War had a gross of $408,084,349 after 20 weeks in the box office. Wonder Woman just hit $408,939,021 after 14 weeks."
The 'spin' is that this is apparently a 'pointless comparison' because of which weeks in which Civil War made it's highest percentage of overall gross.
"Wonder Woman exceeded in 14 weeks what Civil War made in 14 weeks."
"Wonder Woman exceeded in 14 weeks what Civil War made in 20 weeks,"
It's the same damn thing.
clay_ghost
Member
Great results, really show that people will come when you make a good movie. Let's hope WB never make any thing like BVS and SS again.