OP, what's the vibe from your local community etc? Are they outraged?
You guys and your violent fantasies. *sigh*
lol at violent fantasy. I'm not good looking, but I am out going and generally good at making friends. My parents gave me a speech about how important my HS transcript would be for college (lol) so for the first month of HS I let 5 or so "cool" guys make fun of me. I would fire back at them, but one time one of the guys slapped me during lunch because he said something to me and I fired back as usual. Then he called me a bitch and told me not to talk back. I got up, told him to watch his back, and left. I avoided them for two weeks to let them get comfortable.
I got my hands on some pepper spray and caught him and one of the other guys with it on stairwell. I sprayed them both. I punched both of them and then stomped them out. I kicked the dude who slapped me down a flight of stairs and then let them both know that have family who would make them disappear if I told them what they were doing to me. they didn't bother me after that.
lol at violent fantasy. I'm not good looking, but I am out going and generally good at making friends. My parents gave me a speech about how important my HS transcript would be for college (lol) so for the first month of HS I let 5 or so "cool" guys make fun of me. I would fire back at them, but one time one of the guys slapped me during lunch because he said something to me and I fired back as usual. Then he called me a bitch and told me not to talk back. I got up, told him to watch his back, and left. I avoided them for two weeks to let them get comfortable.
I got my hands on some pepper spray and caught him and one of the other guys with it on stairwell. I sprayed them both. I punched both of them and then stomped them out. I kicked the dude who slapped me down a flight of stairs and then let them both know that have family who would make them disappear if I told them what they were doing to me. they didn't bother me after that.
Expectation of privacy in a public classroom?
Really?
There is no greater sin than making the school administration look bad.
Woah man. Even as a joke, people should stop to just want to kill everybody who does something wrong.
That's just me not letting someone take advantage of me for their own entertainment. In HS I could give a fuck if someone had a bad home life or whatever people like to claim so that bullies get sympathy. Being in a shitty situation doesn't mean you get to talk shit to me and put your hands on me so that you feel better and also feel like you're superior to someone else.Ender is that you?
Can they not release the recording and shame the school into submission?
Always have a backup. He should have released it on Youtube.
lol at violent fantasy. I'm not good looking, but I am out going and generally good at making friends. My parents gave me a speech about how important my HS transcript would be for college (lol) so for the first month of HS I let 5 or so "cool" guys make fun of me. I would fire back at them, but one time one of the guys slapped me during lunch because he said something to me and I fired back as usual. Then he called me a bitch and told me not to talk back. I got up, told him to watch his back, and left. I avoided them for two weeks to let them get comfortable.
I got my hands on some pepper spray and caught him and one of the other guys with it on stairwell. I sprayed them both. I punched both of them and then stomped them out. I kicked the dude who slapped me down a flight of stairs and then let them both know that have family who would make them disappear if I told them what they were doing to me. they didn't bother me after that.
I know that, and that you guys [school administrators] would handle that, you know. To go to this extreme, you know, it was the only alternative or something like that, but you werent made aware of that and that was kind of what I was curious about. Because its not tolerated, but you need to go through let the school handle it.
On one hand, you plotted and schemed revenge for 2 weeks, that's kinda scary.
On the other hand, I don't have any sympathy for the victims of your vengeance, so well played.
Anyway, my advice is certainly colored by the fact that my school environment was fine, teachers were generally reasonable (not that I thought that at the time, of course). But even if those in power are incompetent, it's still important to go through the motions with a paper trail. Taking matters into your own hands before going through the proper procedure is asking for trouble.
Wait a fucking second.
Isn't Pennsylvania also the state where a school officials were caught having installed spyware on student laptops and using it to peep at underage children in their bedrooms, via webcam?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robbins_v._Lower_Merion_School_District
Why, yes. yes, it was.
What the fuck, Pennsylvania? How the fuck does THAT not violate wiretapping laws?
Also, Bam Margera! Thanks for foisting him on us, Pennsylvania.
Isn't Pennsylvania the state where a corrupt judge in cahoots with for-profit juvenile detention centers and jails put minors away for years for misdemeanor crimes such as having a small amount of weed or alcohol on them?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_for_cash_scandal
Yes, why yes it is. The place is a fucking backwards shithole outside of Philly (even Philly is backwards sometimes). I lived there for 4 years going to undergrad. I know.
This kind of happened to my girlfriend in high school. Some girl was threatening her life over and over calling and showing up at her house. I forgot exactly why but it had something to do with the fact that this girl was having sex with one of the teachers. Reported it to the police but they were basically like "Call us when she shows up with a gun. Otherwise we can't help you.". So she recorded one of the threatening calls and when she presented the evidence they charged her with illegal recording or whatever. Had to jump through a lot of hoops to get that dropped from her record. Even though she was a juvenile, it would still randomly pop up during background checks from time to time. I forgot exactly what happened to the girl but iirc she got hers eventually and the teacher was exposed as well.
EDIT: I just remembered what happened to the teacher which is probably more fucked up. Obviously they relieved him of his teaching position but they then put him in an administration one where he wasn't working with kinds. So effectively they promoted him.
lol at violent fantasy. I'm not good looking, but I am out going and generally good at making friends. My parents gave me a speech about how important my HS transcript would be for college (lol) so for the first month of HS I let 5 or so "cool" guys make fun of me. I would fire back at them, but one time one of the guys slapped me during lunch because he said something to me and I fired back as usual. Then he called me a bitch and told me not to talk back. I got up, told him to watch his back, and left. I avoided them for two weeks to let them get comfortable.
I got my hands on some pepper spray and caught him and one of the other guys with it on stairwell. I sprayed them both. I punched both of them and then stomped them out. I kicked the dude who slapped me down a flight of stairs and then let them both know that have family who would make them disappear if I told them what they were doing to me. they didn't bother me after that.
What in the fuck? You can get a record for doing something like that? This fucking state, dude...
Why the fuck did I move here?
You can't even make the shit up people manage to do sometimes. The administrators and judge need to be removed.
I can't say they're absolutely wrong to say the kid shouldn't have recorded them without consent.
While there are situations like this where it's being used to uncover wrong doing, there are also many other situations where a recording can be used for the purpose of harassment, humiliation, or black mail. Students want to keep some aspects of their life private, particularly if it may get back to their family and cause significant consequences. For instance if a student is recorded when admitting he or she is gay, or if they're complaining about a teacher/friend, etc. These kind of rules are meant to punish and discourage that sort of maliciousness, and there isn't really an easy way to define an "appropriate" situation for this kind of recording.
Of course it would have never come to this had the teachers done a better job at keeping order in the classroom and in the halls, but from the sounds of it every student in the class that was recorded had some kind of learning disability. That might make it difficult to judge an effective response, though if that's the case, I must wonder why they felt it was appropriate to call the police, of all people, to come and investigate. Making such a scene and threatening a felony charge makes me believe they were trying to intimidate him, which is pretty shameful.
It's a shitty situation all around, but I do believe the school could have acted much better in this scenario, and deserve all the shit they get. The kid may not have acted within the rules, but the school's negligence didn't help matters either.
There's a galaxy of shitty school stories in Pennsylvania. My favorite was the one where some kid showed up to school in a gorilla costume, and they called in the fucking FBI.