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I really hope this comes with Modern Warfare 2 Remastered
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Call of Duty (2018) in a modern setting, developed by Treyarch?
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AHA-Lambda
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Jangowuzhere
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I just don't think there is a significantly large audience wanting to go back to past conflicts or see future warfare. The vast majority of the CoD playerbase prefers more modernish conflicts.
I think you can still make those similar setting ideas work if they make large steps in pushing the gameplay further. At the very least, Call of Duty should be offering unique game modes that appeal to all sorts of people instead of the stale TDM/Domination grind.
Razgriz-Specter
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Technically MW2 was 2016.
It was so damn weird, like they completely forgot why W@W, BO1 and BO2 worked so well.
BO3 should have been easy imo.
- a Mason in 2050's that is the child of David Mason(BO2)(Maybe even with Karma) and grandchild of Alex Mason(BO1)
- flashback missions to David Mason in 2020's that ties into the main plot of the 2050's, maybe a flashback to Alex as well.
- more hints and references to Reznov(W@W) surviving BO1.
- multiple endings options like BO2(man the perfect ending was so good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8ct0YDPc04).
I was honestly very disappointed our custom character in BO3 wasn't a Mason but by the end I was happy it didn't get tied with that horrendous mess.
Hopefully BO4 is the true BO3.
Razgriz-Specter
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LOL its kinda funny because I was so excited for BF1 at first, I wanted BF and maybe COD to give WW2 another shot.
COD WW2 starts getting promoted, I see Dunkirk and watch a few other WW2 things after that.
I get into the WW2 beta and after like 3 matches im already back to the old WW2 fatigue.
Honestly Battlefield can probably do WW2 again because those vehicles were just so great but im definitely already tired of WW2 weapons and such again(well besides the 1911)
Lord of Castamere
Member
Fuck it, full wolfenstein. Alternate timeline where Soviets won, alternate versions of the Cod4 cast, same time period. Punished Price is the villain, do what they wouldn't in Ghosts.
Razgriz-Specter
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I will be a bit conflicted about 1 thing with BO4 MP...
On one hand I want a more classic custom character system maybe with a specialist ability if they must,
On the other I liked that the BO3 MP characters had loads of personality(more than the story actually)
Honestly I'd be happy with an MW4 that was just a prequel.
Player character is mainly Gaz, another Price Flashback, featuring Kamarov("the good Russians") in some capacity.
You could even do a few interesting map remakes that are designed pre-war.
EvilChameleon
Member
Give me something in Korea. We haven't had a good game set there since the original Mercenaries.
angelic
Banned
I'll say this aswell, BLOPS 3 is the only one that does the post-game character walk on / show off and pose thing properly, I used to enjoy the gestures, outfits and unlocks with the characters. IW's post game pop off screen was crap. A horrible tilted back camera, their characters had absolutely no presence and didnt stay on screen for long enough, which killed any interest in outfits for me. WW2 has an equally bad post game posing screen too, it seems they just do not get how to do this properly since BO3.
Honestly, only Treyarch get COD these days, even their menus are a million times better than the other studios.
BO2 was pretty much modern and that's the best CoD IMO so I'm 100% in.. I mean yeah it was set in 2025 so it's technically future, but it played like a modern CoD which is the important thing not some made up on the spot year stuck onto it.
Hopefully Treyarch haven't lost their way after working on the travesty that is BO3 for so long
Hopefully Treyarch haven't lost their way after working on the travesty that is BO3 for so long
The Real Napsta
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I think all of it is a waste of time. Just take me to the post game lobby and get the next match started quicker. Don't show me a bunch of clowns doing backflips.
WW2 beta was absolutely terrible, how could they go boots to ground and make it as shit as it is.......blows my mind
AlexFlame116
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Work on story and campaign and you have my interest Treyarch.
Also please think of something else besides zombies.
Also please think of something else besides zombies.
angelic
Banned
To be fair it does quite a lot, it gives people a reward for winning, an incentive to keep playing, enjoyment of new unlocks, a place to show off their rare drops, a natural break from the action for a minute, and obviously the game is doing some background loading.
I dont mind it at this point, my main point is that Treyarch does it well, IW and Sledgehammer do it really badly. The WW2 post game screen is horrible and that online hub looks diabolical. I'll be playing BO2 on BC on WW2s launch day.
angelic
Banned
So the return of double jump jetpacks is greeted by record sales next year.
LenHendricks
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All in. Treyarch's MP is the best by far and I hope their campaign rebounds after the Blops3 fail. A fresh start with an a modern setting sounds like a plan, especially if WWII plays as crappy as the beta did.
daTRUballin
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A modern setting again? Meh.
I mean, I guess it's sort of a breath of fresh air after all the futuristic entries, but back to modern again? I was hoping they would tackle an entirely new setting at some point. Oh well. Now to wait until 2019! Hopefully Infinity Ward won't disappoint!
I guess it's cool we're getting WWII again this year though.
I mean, I guess it's sort of a breath of fresh air after all the futuristic entries, but back to modern again? I was hoping they would tackle an entirely new setting at some point. Oh well. Now to wait until 2019! Hopefully Infinity Ward won't disappoint!
I guess it's cool we're getting WWII again this year though.
Hazardous Metal
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I'm all for it. I'll take anything that isn't WW2-back era, have absolutely zero interest in that setting.
Razgriz-Specter
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I do like one thing Sledgehammer does a lot, the team showing up in the lobby.
BO3 could have used that well imo.
I like that we had MWR afterwards to balance it out.
I love my classic but I appreciate that BO3 went all out with the ridiculous stuff.
My only issue was BO3 really needed more specialists to pick from,
Seeing so many of the same character in the Beta nearly turned me off the game.
Kayo Police
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Yes Reboot Modern Warfare.
DAY FING ZERO.
DAY FING ZERO.
daTRUballin
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BO3 wasn't modern.
Silent Hill
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Im down for a modern setting. 
Razgriz-Specter
Member
Yeah, even BO2 was 2025.
While this is not a real indication that their next game is a modern warfare setting, if it was, there's no way in hell they are going to call it Modern Warfare 4. Technically Ghosts was Modern Warfare 4.
If it's a new storyline, just give it a different subtitle. If you throw Call of Duty in the title for a AAA game, people will pay attention regardless of the subtitle or setting.
If it's a new storyline, just give it a different subtitle. If you throw Call of Duty in the title for a AAA game, people will pay attention regardless of the subtitle or setting.
Razgriz-Specter
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Even if their game is modern I 100% expect it to be "Black Ops 4".
daTRUballin
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There's no way it's going to be called MW4 because Modern Warfare has always been IW's thing anyway.
It's always weird when we begin to inch closer to dates of 'near-future' stories.
Like when BO2 released the story was set 13 years in the future and now it's only 8.
While I wouldn't say BO2 is a 'realistic' story. It will be interesting to see how it's depection of 2025 matches our own.
How About No
Member
A modern Call of Duty? How retro
ScaryShark
Banned
Surprised it took so long.
daTRUballin
Member
I feel the same about other games like Perfect Dark. Can't wait until 2023 so that we'll have flying cars!
shackdaddy836
Banned
I think I would prefer an early modern setting more (80's-90's,early 00).
Like what the old Delta Force games had. Delta Force: Black Hawk Down was the shit.
Baraka Obama
Banned
I think it could be interesting if it's like black ops 2. Please be insane like the blops games and not boring like the other games.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
That'd be nice. I really enjoy Infinite Warfare. Campaign was great, zombies is great, and the multiplayer--as well as the way post-release guns are handled--is great as well, after a patchy start. I liked Black Ops 3's multiplayer a great deal, but I stopped playing it by this point in the game's life cycle, whereas I'm still enjoying Infinite Warfare.
And if branding is an issue, they could include Modern Warfare 2 remastered to draw in a bigger audience. I know I'd be there day-one.
Even if they have to go to a new setting, I hope Infinity Ward doesn't revert to the Ghosts/CoD4 school of balance where only a small handful of playstyles are actually viable. The thing I love about Infinite Warfare--and the thing I also loved about Modern Warfare 2--is how you can actually challenge vanilla-ass dedicated assault rifle and smg users with less conventional weapons. Shotguns, handguns, akimbo miniguns, knives, etc. My only issues with either game's balance (in their most recent forms) is that MW2 is still too hectic with the explosive spam (just fix the OMA reloads and tubing from spawn), and IW's sniper rifles are a little too unfavorable (no minimap, scope glint, heavy flinch, flying targets, few sniper perches on the base maps)
That said, I might be down for a new grounded Treyarch title, so long as they restructure their awful Black Ops 3 supply drops system. Needs to be at least as good as IW's. They could also learn a few things about QoL and community engagement from Infinite Warfare's zombies.
Baraka Obama
Banned
The u.s.s obama could still happen but Petraeus is always funny to think about. I think the game is fairly grounded in terms of tech besides maybe the cloak and jetpacks.
Razgriz-Specter
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Oh it will eventually, just probably 20-ish years later.
Yeah its something I really liked about it, the tech wasn't too unrealistic for the game.
And the weapons had a good balance of feeling like the belonged vs making new stuff just because.
Bolivar687
Banned
There was a time when modern CoD by Treyarch would be an exciting proposition but I no longer have faith in Activision to deliver a quality product in the series, just like I no longer believe it's different studios making their own vision of multiplayer, it's just Raven making the same kinds of maps with some input and direction from the art team And Pick 10 slapped on top of it..
Any allure of using modern weapons in modern settings again would be erased by yet another game of interconnected hallways and closets on small-to-medium and flat 3-lane maps.
I've never seen anyone actually explain the reasons why they enjoy BO3 MP.
Any allure of using modern weapons in modern settings again would be erased by yet another game of interconnected hallways and closets on small-to-medium and flat 3-lane maps.
I've never seen anyone actually explain the reasons why they enjoy BO3 MP.
Razgriz-Specter
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Advanced and BO3 are like a night and day difference in Multiplayer.
Infinite was in a weird spot because people hated Ghosts for whatever reason and Advanced multiplayer wasn't popular either.
IW basically had to take BO3's popular multiplayer and paste it in asap without even completely understanding what worked about it
Meanwhile WW2 feels different to those as well but is stuck with shitty MW3 tier maps and bad weapon balance.
Neuromancer
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I'm ok with this in theory but the BO3 campaign was so stupid that it's hard for me to trust Treyarch again.
Ideally with three CoD teams you can do past, modern and future and everyone could be somewhat happy.
Ideally with three CoD teams you can do past, modern and future and everyone could be somewhat happy.
privitsan02
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I always wanted the following:
- Infinity Ward sticks to modern.
- Sledgehammer works on near future aka Advanced Warfare, (which was actually great bar the skill-based matchmaking and BAL 27's).
- Treyarch goes back to WW1/WW2/CW.
I'll take this though. I never understood why Activision doubled down so hard on future with COD over the past 3 years. Variety is good for the brand.
WW2 is looking good so far at least so yeah. Sledgehammer always had the style down with COD.
Best wishes.
- Infinity Ward sticks to modern.
- Sledgehammer works on near future aka Advanced Warfare, (which was actually great bar the skill-based matchmaking and BAL 27's).
- Treyarch goes back to WW1/WW2/CW.
I'll take this though. I never understood why Activision doubled down so hard on future with COD over the past 3 years. Variety is good for the brand.
WW2 is looking good so far at least so yeah. Sledgehammer always had the style down with COD.
Best wishes.
kraspkibble
Permabanned.
Doubt I'll buy it but I'm glad they aren't sticking with world war. Hopefully Battlefield does the same. Refuse to buy world war games.
Zantetsuken
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I want my F2000 back.
TangoAlphaLima
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The last Treyarch game. They probably prefer that prospective employees know the ins and outs of their game design, which you'd probably pick up after prestiging.
Razgriz-Specter
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Call me crazy but I would be fine if they just sold most of that content as an expansion to MWR.
Campaign
Spec-Ops
all Maps
Weapons that make sense in balance(F2000, Scar, ACR, FAMAS, etc).
Perks that can be balanced in(Bling, Hardline)
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