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Call of Duty (2018) in a modern setting, developed by Treyarch?

Gorillaz

Member
3arc has been desperately chasing that same level of love that mw1 got for years. Might as well just do modern shit while their at it.
 

_____

Banned
yall mf's must have stockholm syndrome or something

seriously did you forget you already got 3 modern warfare games? I fucking swear one day soon yall gonna say they should go back to their ww2 roots...oh wait

but seriously yall need to stop this shit right now, they have tricked you into thinking that you're getting a way better project when the other studio takes over when really you're still getting the same game
 
yall mf's must have stockholm syndrome or something

seriously did you forget you already got 3 modern warfare games? I fucking swear one day soon yall gonna say they should go back to their ww2 roots...oh wait

but seriously yall need to stop this shit right now, they have tricked you into thinking that you're getting a way better project when the other studio takes over when really you're still getting the same game

I think it's the jet back boosting and zipping all over the place people don't like. Boots to the ground is what a lot of people want, modern or not.
 

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Banned
I think it's the jet back boosting and zipping all over the place people don't like. Boots to the ground is what a lot of people want, modern or not.

make game > have other studio fuck up game's sequel > sell sequel to that by saying "we're going back to basics! > GOTO 10"

"Niggas want my old shit, buy my old albums" - Jay Z
 

Creaking

He touched the black heart of a mod
Call me crazy but I would be fine if they just sold most of that content as an expansion to MWR.

Campaign
Spec-Ops
all Maps
Weapons that make sense in balance(F2000, Scar, ACR, FAMAS, etc).
Perks that can be balanced in(Bling, Hardline)

You're crazy. MW2's multiplayer experience is too different from MWR, and I would be greatly annoyed to not get it in full (or mostly in full. Some minor tweaks to explosives wouldn't go amiss.)

They'd better have loud-ass footsteps too.
 

killroy87

Member
I'll be incredibly excited if the next one goes back to standard MW setting. If that means a remake of MW2, my personal favorite COD ever? Cherry on top!

The WW2 beta just cemented what I feared ever since the game was announced; going back to that era was a mistake and that game is going to absolutely not be for me.
 
I think it's the jet back boosting and zipping all over the place people don't like. Boots to the ground is what a lot of people want, modern or not.

We'll see if that's what people want. I'm intensely curious to see how well WW2 sells. Personally, I think it will the lowest selling Cod yet, from those released after MW2.
 
Weren't black ops 1-2 essentially already "modern warfare"

They were both borderline modern warfare. Black Ops 1 was basically set in the cold war/vietnam, making it the beginnings of modern warfare while Black Ops 2 was mix of post cold war/post modern warfare/pre future warfare o_O.

Anyways, I wouldn't mind seeing a "modern" black ops setting. Low key, under the radar black operation missions.
 
Why don't Call of duty games just pull a sort of Assassin's Creed move and have modern soldiers time travel and fight in different ancient fights against swords and horsemen. It could be a 4 person team get transported through a certain time period like ancient Rome or Egypt and those soldiers somehow get their hands on modern weapons, so now you're fighting in historic or fantastical locations for each game that would differentiate it from the next in the series.
 

Kalentan

Member
Nope

In terms of business, that doesn't make sense at all. I have a strong belief that we will see Modern Warfare 4 is 2019.

That actually makes less sense.

They saw what happens when you reuse the same (or similar) setting over and over again. How it begins to wear down on the playerbase.

Why would you go back to WW2... and then do 2 straight years of Modern Military?

Regardless of what some people think, CoD did gain new players in the advance movement era.

The best business sense would be to have the developers do 3 eras. Sledgehammer with Historical, Treyarch with Modern, and Infinity Ward with Future. This would allow them to grab the players who gravitate to each of these settings rather than alienating one player base for multiple years. If people who liked AW/BO3/IW see that there is no CoD coming in the future that has similar gameplay, they will lose those people, since the people who no doubt have stuck around playing these CoD's want to play more with those systems.

CoD needs variety. What some suggest would only lead it to making past mistakes once more.

What would you think is the 2018 title? It could be the next title. Games need several years to be developed.

? Treyarch has been working on this since November of 2016.

By the time it releases in 2018, the game will have had 3 years of development.
 
Why don't Call of duty games just pull a sort of Assassin's Creed move and have modern soldiers time travel and fight in different ancient fights against swords and horsemen. It could be a 4 person team get transported through a certain time period like ancient Rome or Egypt and those soldiers somehow get their hands on modern weapons, so now you're fighting in historic or fantastical locations for each game that would differentiate it from the next in the series.

Darkest of Days did that. It wasn't very good.
Granted, it was literally about traveling through time to prevent white genocide.
 

spyshagg

Should not be allowed to breed
There are really just a few commandments every developer should obey to honor a true COD:

- You shall not give players any unfair advantage over aspects they do not control. (i.e having one player host all the others)


- You shall always spawn near your team location, and not ever behind the enemy team.


- Your performance is the direct result of your own accomplishments.



As far as I can tell, every recent COD fails on all accounts.

It rewards the casual player. Not that I have anything against them. They are the bulk of the money and it shows.
 
Why don't Call of duty games just pull a sort of Assassin's Creed move and have modern soldiers time travel and fight in different ancient fights against swords and horsemen. It could be a 4 person team get transported through a certain time period like ancient Rome or Egypt and those soldiers somehow get their hands on modern weapons, so now you're fighting in historic or fantastical locations for each game that would differentiate it from the next in the series.

I don't know about that completely but if I had been the multiplayer designer for Infinite Warfare my idea would be along that line.

- it would technically be a VR simulation
- maps and weapons from all of human history and future
- custom characters would be like Advanced Warfare(standard military gear, meanwhile a legendary piece might be a Roman helmet for example)
- standard movement system except for futuristic maps.

Honestly it would really have fit Black Ops3 especially.
 

Chris1

Member
yall mf's must have stockholm syndrome or something

seriously did you forget you already got 3 modern warfare games? I fucking swear one day soon yall gonna say they should go back to their ww2 roots...oh wait

but seriously yall need to stop this shit right now, they have tricked you into thinking that you're getting a way better project when the other studio takes over when really you're still getting the same game
How'd you come to get that tag? Lol
 
I would definitely like to be brought back to the modern era in CoD.

Unrelated kinda, but I've noticed a lot of hate for the WWII beta... I haven't had that much fun in a CoD game since Black Ops 1, and it was just the Beta. It definitely made me consider getting the game at release. So yeah, kinda surprised at the hate lol
 

Gorillaz

Member
I would definitely like to be brought back to the modern era in CoD.

Unrelated kinda, but I've noticed a lot of hate for the WWII beta... I haven't had that much fun in a CoD game since Black Ops 1, and it was just the Beta. It definitely made me consider getting the game at release. So yeah, kinda surprised at the hate lol
every cod and cod beta gets hate I said it in the beta thread if cod4 came out today as it was in 07 with a different name people would still say it sucks and think its worse then older games
 

knitoe

Member
every cod and cod beta gets hate I said it in the beta thread if cod4 came out today as it was in 07 with a different name people would still say it sucks and think its worse then older games

Most of the hate for WW2 comes with continuing of the shitty swiss cheese chaos map designs. That would not be the issue with COD4.
 
Was thinking more about it earlier,
As far as modern goes for Treyarch/Black Ops they basically have Alex Mason from 1989 until 2025 that they could explain were he had been all that time.

Honestly they could do a whole game just about him again during that period but I do hope they bring back multiple interconnected time periods with choices and alternate endings.
 

FreeMufasa

Junior Member
Still mad to me that treyarch are the best cod devs and who people are excited for.

Still remember those "ah shit....its a treyarch game...pass" comments 10 years ago
 
Still mad to me that treyarch are the best cod devs and who people are excited for.

Still remember those "ah shit....its a treyarch game...pass" comments 10 years ago

Infinity Ward fell apart with MW3 so its easy to see the shift.

COD3 = meh
W@W = great/amazing
BO1 = great
BO2 = amazing
BO3 = horrendous campaign, amazing mp

COD1 = amazing
COD2 = amazing
COD4 = incredible
MW2 = amazing
MW3 = meh
Ghosts = bad/meh/decent
IW = worst mp in the franchise, incredible campaign

AW = meh campaign, bad mp

W@W and BO1 got burned because they weren't COD4 and MW2. However MW3 made people reevaluate BO1 and Treyarch has seemingly been the favorite since.
(and then BO2 hit which was probably one of the most solid CODs with a strong campaign, strong multiplayer and strong zombies mode)
 

Daffy Duck

Member
Still mad to me that treyarch are the best cod devs and who people are excited for.

Still remember those "ah shit....its a treyarch game...pass" comments 10 years ago

Shit changes, and Treyarch really stepped up with the Black Ops series.

IW imploded and haven't been the premiere CoD dev since. Treyarch went from strength to strength in that period and delivered an amazing series.
 

Creaking

He touched the black heart of a mod
Infinity Ward fell apart with MW3 so its easy to see the shift.

COD3 = meh
W@W = great/amazing
BO1 = great
BO2 = amazing
BO3 = horrendous campaign, amazing mp

COD1 = amazing
COD2 = amazing
COD4 = incredible
MW2 = amazing
MW3 = meh
Ghosts = bad/meh/decent
IW = worst mp in the franchise, incredible campaign

AW = meh campaign, bad mp

W@W and BO1 got burned because they weren't COD4 and MW2. However MW3 made people reevaluate BO1 and Treyarch has seemingly been the favorite since.

I just don't get this.
 

Daffy Duck

Member
I just don't get this.

Well I've certainly seen a whole lot less of the COD YouTube community playing the game, and by less I mean almost zero.

The game just felt like a poor mans rip off of Black Ops 3, yet managed to do things very wrong. Really not enjoyable at all.

Though it's still possibly better than Ghosts.
 

BBboy20

Member
Still mad to me that treyarch are the best cod devs and who people are excited for.

Still remember those "ah shit....its a treyarch game...pass" comments 10 years ago
Infinity Ward themselves stopped making Call of Duty a prestigious shooter with Modern Warfare 2. Even with the Huey killstreak, Black Ops 1 had a fairer and more polished multiplayer experience. Though, in hindsight, that seemed more to do with the limitations of the time period because when they went near future, they used the Infinity Ward play book of throwing everything, including the kitchen sink and they never stopped since.
 
Still mad to me that treyarch are the best cod devs and who people are excited for.

Still remember those "ah shit....its a treyarch game...pass" comments 10 years ago
Black Ops 2 happened. It's definitely the last COD that is thoroughly praised and revered today by the majority of people.
 
I just don't get this.
Ha, it seems hypocritical because it is such a copy paste however

1. Infinite Warfare's multiplayer has absolutely no character/personality
2. specialist ability is just kinda bleh compared to BO3, only ability I thought was stupid in BO3 is "Glitch".
3. launch maps at least really don't feel designed around the movement some make it feel completely out of place even.
BO3 had stinkers but 2 of those are extremely popular for whatever reason whenever they come back(NukeTown, Highjacked)

Im not even saying I prefer BO3's style MP versus others(besides IW and AW)
For Call of Duty I still prefer a solid COD4 style experience but I give BO3 a lot of credit because that was a solid different experience to typical COD that was well done.
 

Creaking

He touched the black heart of a mod
Well I've certainly seen a whole lot less of the COD YouTube community playing the game, and by less I mean almost zero.

The game just felt like a poor mans rip off of Black Ops 3, yet managed to do things very wrong. Really not enjoyable at all.

Though it's still possibly better than Ghosts.

They're just so similar. I find it strange to consider one to be great, amazing even, and then the other to be the worst multiplayer in the franchise.

And I've heard people complain, but I very rarely see people who can actually articulate what it is they don't like about it outside of very general, vague terms, like yours above. Maybe mention some half-baked thought about not liking variants, or the maps, or the graphics.

I dunno, I just still feel a little crazy, having enjoyed both Black Ops 3 and Infinite Warfare, to see so many people heap praise on the one and spit venom on the other. Like, I get there are differences. Boosting is deliberately slowed down, movement isn't exactly the same, presentation isn't quite up to snuff. But even the worst stuff like bad spawns never struck me as enough reason to completely condemn the game.

I think a lot of it has to do with being the wrong game at the wrong time, and the early negative perception it got stuck with and still hasn't managed to shake when it comes to the general game-interested public.

Ha, it seems hypocritical because it is such a copy paste however

1. Infinite Warfare's multiplayer has absolutely no character/personality
2. specialist ability is just kinda bleh compared to BO3, only ability I thought was stupid in BO3 is "Glitch".
3. launch maps at least really don't feel designed around the movement some make it feel completely out of place even.
BO3 had stinkers but 2 of those are extremely popular for whatever reason whenever they come back(NukeTown, Highjacked)


Im not even saying I prefer BO3's style MP versus others(besides IW and AW)
For Call of Duty I still prefer a solid COD4 style experience but I give BO3 a lot of credit because that was a solid different experience to typical COD that was well done.

Even with these complaints (some of which I find debatable or hard to understand, but it's too early in the morning for me to want to get into all that) I don't really understand the gulf you've placed between the quality of Black Ops 3 and that of Infinite Warfare.
 
I'll be happy with a black ops remastered to coincide with the next Treyarch game, to replay the fantastic, amazing, incredible campaign again. Yes it's that good.

As for the next COD my only hope is that the campaign is good yet I want it to be great, modern, past or future doesn't matter. When it comes to multiplayer I trust them to deliver.
 
Even with these complaints (some of which I find debatable or hard to understand, but it's too early in the morning for me to want to get into all that) I don't really understand the gulf you've placed between the quality of Black Ops 3 and that of Infinite Warfare.
Honestly might just be that I really don't like the futuristic movement stuff however BO3 did it so well it feels like a strong game in my mind (if not a COD)

AW and IW are both on my bottom but I felt AW a bit better with those maps, customization stuff was a bit fun and it wasn't a mess of weapon prototypes.
 

Creaking

He touched the black heart of a mod
Honestly might just be that I really don't like the futuristic movement stuff however BO3 did it so well it feels like a strong game in my mind (if not a COD)

AW and IW are both on my bottom but I felt AW a bit better with those maps, customization stuff was a bit fun and it wasn't a mess of weapon prototypes.

I hope you don't mean variants. In the game that introduced variants. And only had them available through RNG systems. And had like 3 or 4 ultimate variants that the community ended up gravitating towards over all other weapons.
 
I don't know about the rest of you, but I don't know if there's any kind of COD that could redeem the series for me. It's been over a decade of the same type of gameplay, year in year out, that I think it's just gotten stale.
 
I don't know about the rest of you, but I don't know if there's any kind of COD that could redeem the series for me. It's been over a decade of the same type of gameplay, year in year out, that I think it's just gotten stale.
It hasn't though.
 

Toa TAK

Banned
You can't say COD has had the same gameplay for a decade when we've had three iterations where you're jumping around like a maniac and this year we're diverting from it.

COD is always to be a fast paced shooter, but the gameplay has certainly changed up and down since COD4 (which plays nothing like its predecessors).
 
I don't know about the rest of you, but I don't know if there's any kind of COD that could redeem the series for me. It's been over a decade of the same type of gameplay, year in year out, that I think it's just gotten stale.

My only issue is I burned myself out on WW2 stuff again so when I got into the WW2 beta I was already feeling fatigue.
(maps didn't help either)

You can't say COD has had the same gameplay for a decade when we've had three iterations where you're jumping around like a maniac and this year we're diverting from it.

COD is always to be a fast paced shooter, but the gameplay has certainly changed up and down since COD4 (which plays nothing like its predecessors).

Yup.
 
I probably should have qualified that with “for me.” I tried the most recent beta for the WW2 COD and just couldn’t shake the feeling of ‘been there, done that.’ Every new iteration just feels like more of the same with a fresh coat of paint on it.
That's what WW2 is specifically going for. It's standard, boots on the ground gameplay after three straight games that weren't that.
 

Daffy Duck

Member
They're just so similar. I find it strange to consider one to be great, amazing even, and then the other to be the worst multiplayer in the franchise.

And I've heard people complain, but I very rarely see people who can actually articulate what it is they don't like about it outside of very general, vague terms, like yours above. Maybe mention some half-baked thought about not liking variants, or the maps, or the graphics.

I dunno, I just still feel a little crazy, having enjoyed both Black Ops 3 and Infinite Warfare, to see so many people heap praise on the one and spit venom on the other. Like, I get there are differences. Boosting is deliberately slowed down, movement isn't exactly the same, presentation isn't quite up to snuff. But even the worst stuff like bad spawns never struck me as enough reason to completely condemn the game.

I think a lot of it has to do with being the wrong game at the wrong time, and the early negative perception it got stuck with and still hasn't managed to shake when it comes to the general game-interested public.



Even with these complaints (some of which I find debatable or hard to understand, but it's too early in the morning for me to want to get into all that) I don't really understand the gulf you've placed between the quality of Black Ops 3 and that of Infinite Warfare.

I don't know what it was, I can't put my hands on it but the movement didn't feel as fluid as BO3, something was off.

Also the networking was awful, I played Black Ops 3 for around 8 days I think my play time ended up, IW I managed 14 hours of multiplayer.

Black Ops 3 just feels fun to play, IW doesn't and something is just off with it.

Maybe it's because of the variants again which I despised one AW that returned here that is a subconscious decision to not like the game.
 
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