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[7DollarHagane]

You'll see some huge blowback from some bigger companies like Facebook and Google, that's for damn sure.

Thats the one upside to this is that both sides of this fight have gigantic mega corporations with interests in keeping or destroying net neutrality.

 

[jellies_two]

It will also be in the interest of Comcast etc to kill any comparisons with their own past packages and disguise what you are getting because they will be able to muck around with speed: "this package is faster even though it tests slower because we run high speeds just for super hidef video if you buy Netflix through us." Etc.
with just some minor tweaks it will be impossible to benchmark connections and packages for latency and speed because it won't be apples and apples any more.
Same goes for looking at caps: pay no attention to the low cap because we zero rate Facebook Netflix and google.
All kinds of games become possible and since there is usually no alternative, they won't be consumer positive ones.

 

[jellies_two]

Thats the one upside to this is that both sides of this fight have gigantic mega corporations with interests in keeping or destroying net neutrality.

They are spineless and will be easily bought off with some promises just for them that don't apply to those who are not in the club. Gift something to Amazon Netflix google Facebook and they will find a way to swap sides and support it.

 

[Calabi]

So could you technically have a maverick good guy ISP pop up that has the selling point of not doing any of this shit, even though the law would allow it to? Wouldn't everyone just flock to that ISP then?

Well that's the the thing in the UK I doubt this would work at all. No ISP wants to be the bad guy and their is some competition at least. Also there would be a furore in the media if they tried to bribe companies not to mention possible legal issues.

The US though is a whole different place, its the fuck you place, where companies can literally say that, do anything and get away with it.

 

[LCGeek]

They want to take the cable TV model and apply it to the internet. Be the gatekeeper, charge everyone for very specific access with tiered services and lock down information.

This so much and the irony is the internet started out as Darpa project, personally am sickened by the fact this country won't tell ISPs who didn't make the tech to fuck off for the shit they are trying to pull with it.

Its a racket and it should be called considering how artificial it is besides how utterly ruins the latency of networking dealing with those isps. Assholes can spend time wrecking priorities and QOS, but won't spend anytime employing one that would make it better for all then again SQM/Cake means superior bandwidth/packet management.

Yet we have FCC that only thinks of certain business interest.

 

[LCGeek]

I would stop using the internet before I started paying for this nonsense.

Or maybe some of you can join the bufferbloat movement and start suing these companies to actually provide the networking and access they claim they provide. The ammo is there and some of us are waiting for ajit pai to be stupid enough to give us the footing we want in courts. Currently we do nothing cause they claim rules are in place once they are gone and they try the argument some of us had the last 15 years will be true and we can finally dismantle certain ISPs. I can't wait to sue ATT, comcast, spectrum and verizon for some of their horrid practices in terms of load balancing their networks or how QOS is done.

The internet is not their tech it's american and if the public ever gets slightly wise to racket these idiots want to run it will be the death or decline of some of them.

 

[jellies_two]

Or maybe some of you can join the bufferbloat movement and start suing these companies to actually provide the networking and access they claim they provide. The ammo is there and some of us are waiting for ajit pai to be stupid enough to give us the footing we want in courts. Currently we do nothing cause they claim rules are in place once they are gone and they try the argument some of us had the last 15 years will be true and we can finally dismantle certain ISPs. I can't wait to sue ATT, comcast, spectrum and verizon for some of their horrid practices in terms of load balancing their networks or how QOS is done.

The internet is not their tech it's american and if the public ever gets slightly wise to racket these idiots want to run it will be the death or decline of some of them.

Also look at this intel puma6 based modem disaster. It is often the only choice offered and yet is unfit for almost anything, the more we find out about it the more obvious the whole set of Cable modems built on this broken chip set needs to be recalled and replaced but there are few levers to force Intel and the isps and hardware makers to do this.
And now the FCC wants to hand more self-regulation to these same companies.
If they continue down this road we are going to get isps and modems legally selling us all as a product to their corporate friends the way TVs and Bose Headphones have already done.

 

[FStubbs]

Thats the one upside to this is that both sides of this fight have gigantic mega corporations with interests in keeping or destroying net neutrality.

So then the GOP will side with the side that hurts consumers more if the big money is on both sides.

 

[Reallink]

Right now people are paying like $40-60 per month for internet. Think about how everyone is cutting the cord and how cable bills were routinely over $100 even 10 years ago. I think that's the long term goal.

People with TV packages are still the vast vast majority though, probably over 80%. I would say the vast majority of those customers are currently paying over $150/mo after taxes and fees for TV and Internet. People with premium channels or home phone are probably over $200.

 

[Luminaire]

Essentially the ISP inserting itself between the content provider and the user, and demanding to be paid based on completely arbitrary metrics.

They want to take the cable TV model and apply it to the internet. Be the gatekeeper, charge everyone for very specific access with tiered services and lock down information.

I wonder where porn would fall in this.

 

[nintendoman58]

Hopefully John Oliver does another one of these again.

 

[theechrisfox]

You'll see some huge blowback from some bigger companies like Facebook and Google, that's for damn sure.

What is stopping them from just negotiating a cut of the increased revenue? I can't envision any huge corporation like that being allowed to suffer in any way under this crooked administration.

 

[linkboy]

I wonder where porn would fall in this.

Exactly the same way, you would have to subscribe to the adult package.

 

[M3d10n]

Internet should be treated and billed like electricity, end of story. This constant fetish ISPs have of manipulating what content users spend their internet with is abhorrent.

We already are to some extent. Zero Rating, which some consider only a cousin of Net Neutrality (though I wouldn't), has not been eliminated under EU guidelines, it's up the member states to regulate there.

In my country (Portugal), the state cozy ISP is already selling new plans where you use an app (!) to choose what 5 apps you'll be given an extra 10GB of data to use on. My Telecom (not the same), for example, texts every other month to remind me I have an extra 5 GB to use on Youtube alone and that Spotify/Facebook/Instagram/Snapchat/WhatsApp is free. And of those, Spotify's paying for the privilege I think, they were really keen on me what I thought of Spotify's promotion when I took their survey, and only tangentially asked about the other platforms.

Yeah, this shit is rampant in mobile space everywhere and ISPs would sell their mothers to be able to apply it to home broadband.

 

[fuzzyset]

It's only a matter of time until the 'big' tech companies that typically speak out about this stop giving a shit.

 

[Stinkles]

I can't imagine teenage alt righters can support this, so how do they contort themselves to explain it?

 

[VetrexKnight]

I am doing my part already to help fight against the roll back on net neutrality I am posting around in all my online circles letting any and everyone know just what they can do to help fight this.