• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

COD: Ghosts has an exact same cutscene from MW2

S

soultron

Banned
Sethos said:
What zero-G animation? They seem to reload exactly like every other weapon just slowed down 40%
Click to expand...

I was watching a video last night (maybe the GT review?) that showed some of the space combat and I remember seeing a reload anim during one of the exotic space fights and it looked almost like the ejected magazine was floating away.

I'll never play that sequence but I hope spent mags float around in space and act as real physics objects, colliding with the environment and characters. (Casings would probably be too heavy, I'm guessing, but it'd be wicked if they acted the same way and stayed in the environment.)
 
K

Kinyou

Member
I remember a MW3 SP level reusing a building from a MW2 multiplayer map, so I wouldn't be surprised if this is really just recycled mo-cap data.

soultron said:
I was watching a video last night (maybe the GT review?) that showed some of the space combat and I remember seeing a reload anim during one of the exotic space fights and it looked almost like the ejected magazine was floating away.

I'll never play that sequence but I hope spent mags float around in space and act as real physics objects, colliding with the environment and characters. (Casings would probably be too heavy, I'm guessing, but it'd be wicked if they acted the same way and stayed in the environment.)
Click to expand...
Yeah I remember that as well from the GT review.
 
M

Mr Fahrenheit

Member
That's hilarious, I hope people go crazy analyzing the cutscenes and they find more.
Doesn't beat EA recycling that entire soccer game though.
 
S

Slacker

Member
I saw a quote somewhere comparing mass-produced pop music to food at Olive Garden. It can be enjoyable enough, but the chef at Olive Garden doesn't really care if you love your meal. He just wants to earn a paycheck and get out of there.

Titles like this are the Olive Garden of gaming. I'm sure it's not a terrible game, but I'm also betting you can't detect the developers passion for making great games in there either.
 
A

antitrop

Member
Slacker said:
Titles like this are the Olive Garden of gaming. I'm sure it's not a terrible game, but I'm also betting you can't detect the developers passion for making great games in there either.
Click to expand...

Call of Duty 4 had passion bursting out of the fucking game case.
 
Duallusion

Duallusion

Member
Sulik2 said:
They reused this scene because in the actual stunt they tried for Transformers the stunt driver was killed. They obviously didn't want to use that footage and didn't have time to design a different, safer stunt.
Click to expand...

Is there a link to this? Google doesn't seem to know anything about anyone dying; just injured.
 
D

Dyno

Member
It's not surprising, IW is now kind of a smaller team (70-80 normal, up to 150 at crunch) and they made this game run across six different platforms. I'm sure, despite the new features, that they cut corners whenever they could.

It's a shame. I was going to by Ghosts when I got the PS4. New console generation = wipe away preconceptions and experience the new. Now with the various criticisms swirling about I may not bother.
 
N

Neuromancer

Member
Sulik2 said:
They reused this scene because in the actual stunt they tried for Transformers the stunt driver was killed. They obviously didn't want to use that footage and didn't have time to design a different, safer stunt.
Click to expand...
Maybe the guy making the Ghosts cutscene died too. It wouldn't really be appropriate to keep using that ending, out of respect for the man and his family.
 
A

Afrodium

Banned
I can't believe that people in this thread are suggesting that IW should have wasted time and money in paying mo-cap actors and reanimating an entire animation that they already have just so that fanboys on the internet don't call them lazy. Yes, CoD is one of the biggest franchises in gaming, and yes, they have plenty of money to recreate every single animation an asset. However, this doesn't mean that they shouldn't budget money responsibly and save time when they can, especially when they have to make 6 versions of the game.

I haven't played a CoD since MW2, so I have no investment in this, but this thread is just making me shake my head.
 
A

antitrop

Member
Afrodium said:
I can't believe that people in this thread are suggesting that IW should have wasted time and money in paying mo-cap actors and reanimating an entire animation that they already have just so that fanboys on the internet don't call them lazy.
Click to expand...
Well, they're lazy because they launched a game with broken SLI support, no FoV slider, and dated graphics. The whole reused animation thing is just kind of a funny sidenote.
 
S

Sanke__

Member
With all of the comparisons between call of duty and the transformers movies, the had to pay homage in some way.
 
Y

Y2Kev

TLG Fan Caretaker Est. 2009
I'm #dead at people saying asset reuse is normal. Who is arguing that? I have no issue if dice reuses crates or wall textures. Who cares?

Name another game that has reused an entire cutscene. Name any game.

Calling a cutscene an "asset" is stretching it already.
 
K

KingFire

Banned
Y2Kev said:
I'm #dead at people saying asset reuse is normal. Who is arguing that? I have no issue if dice reuses crates or wall textures. Who cares?

Name another game that has reused an entire cutscene. Name any game.

Calling a cutscene an "asset" is stretching it already.
Click to expand...

How about using entire levels? Isn't that just as bad in terms of content? A scene will play for a few minutes, but an entire level? And yes, I can name some, but you will probably say something like, "nostalgia and fan services don't count."
 
D

Diprosalic

Banned
This is nostalgia fan service for the CoD userbase. Ah man i remember 2009, Kindergarten was awesome.

Only 00s kids will understand.
 
G

Ghost

Chili Con Carnage!
Y2Kev said:
I'm #dead at people saying asset reuse is normal. Who is arguing that? I have no issue if dice reuses crates or wall textures. Who cares?

Name another game that has reused an entire cutscene. Name any game.

Calling a cutscene an "asset" is stretching it already.
Click to expand...

How can you call it an entire cutscene when the environment, characters, sound and story are all completely different?

The animation and the camera bob are just as much assets as any of those things.
 
Y

Y2Kev

TLG Fan Caretaker Est. 2009
KingFire said:
How about using entire levels? Isn't that just as bad in terms of content? A scene will play for a few minutes, but an entire level? And yes, I can name some, but you will probably say something like, "nostalgia and fan services don't count."
Click to expand...
Not really. Lots of games reuse levels because the gameplay experience can change. I can definitely name lots of games that reuse or tweak and then reuse level design.

Cutscenes...they're purely meant to be consumed passively.

think about what it would take to even write yourself into a place where your generic cutscene could even be reused. That's kind of impressive.
 
V

Varth

Member
XANDER CAGE said:
Is the "dude gets carried ten feet" scene really iconic enough for an homage?
Click to expand...

Apparently it's iconic enough for people to recognize it and start this all.

It's in almost every CoD as far as I can remember, together with the slowmo dramatic moment with guys about to be overwhelmed seconds before the air cavalry comes and other commonplaces of the military shooter genre.
 
Y

Y2Kev

TLG Fan Caretaker Est. 2009
Ghost said:
How can you call it an entire cutscene when the environment, characters, sound and story are all completely different?

The animation and the camera bob are just as much assets as any of those things.
Click to expand...
Cutscenes are by definition two things: mise-en-scene and camera work. I personally feel that reducing it to camera bob is somewhat demeaning unless you feel that animation like that can be grossly applicable across long (10 seconds+) sequences of events.

I mean, story? Like I said above, I'm amazed the story could be so similar that the same 20 second scene is grossly appropriate!

You mentioned sound. Would it be ok if they reused the music from other games?
 
A

antitrop

Member
Varth said:
It's in almost every CoD as far as I can remember, together with the slowmo dramatic moment with guys about to be overwhelmed seconds before the air cavalry comes and other commonplaces of the military shooter genre.
Click to expand...

Medal of Honor 2010 did that scene pretty well.
 
F

fabricated backlash

Member
Everywhere else, this would be a nice little footnote, a trivia fact.

On GAF it's the end of the world, the downfall of western society, a vindication of all the poor game connoisseurs who have been wronged by the success of COD for so long, their voices smothered by the storm of feckless casuals ruining their favourite hobby with their bro style and obnoxious reluctance to accept that they shouldn't enjoy the series that much.
 
C

codhand

Member
fabricated backlash said:
Everywhere else, this would be a nice little footnote, a trivia fact.

On GAF it's the end of the world, the downfall of western society, a vindication of all the poor game connoisseurs who have been wronged by the success of COD for so long, their voices smothered by the storm of feckless casuals ruining their favourite hobby with their bro style and obnoxious reluctance to accept that they shouldn't enjoy the series that much.
Click to expand...

no one said all that, it's simply another sign of smoke, pointing towards a larger fire, with regard to the downfall of the quality this series had
 
A

antitrop

Member
fabricated backlash said:
Everywhere else, this would be a nice little footnote, a trivia fact.

On GAF it's the end of the world, the downfall of western society, a vindication of all the poor game connoisseurs who have been wronged by the success of COD for so long, their voices smothered by the storm of feckless casuals ruining their favourite hobby with their bro style and obnoxious reluctance to accept that they shouldn't enjoy the series that much.
Click to expand...
It's not the end of the world, the only one having a breakdown here is you.

Hell, I'll quote myself from THIS very page:

antitrop said:
...The whole reused animation thing is just kind of a funny sidenote.
Click to expand...
 
S

Sethos

Banned
antitrop said:
It's not the end of the world, the only one having a breakdown here is you.

Hell, I'll quote myself from THIS very page:
Click to expand...

Indeed. It's funny because Ghosts is already on a slippery slope. However this particular situation isn't the main issue.
 
I

I H8 Memes

Member
Nibel said:
QaLGO0Q.jpg
Click to expand...

Very appropriate since Call of Duty is to games what Michael Bay is to movies.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

LTTP: COD MW2 (2022) PS5
1
291
Codes 208 replied
LTTP: COD: Ghosts (2013) via PS3
20
1K
ungalo replied
I think I might be experiencing a bug with Warzone 2. Also it looks to me like they improved the draw distance, I can see players from farther away.
6
657
TexMex replied
What can Ghost of Tsushima learn from Red Dead, The Witcher, and Spider-Man 2?
47
2K
Gojiira replied
‘Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 3’ Review Scores Are Below Redfall, Forspoken, Every COD Game
Cringe 2 3
110
7K
Adam_802 replied
Top Bottom