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DC Extended Universe |OT3| A League of Academy Award Winners
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Gordon Shumway
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Yeah, dude..that's my confusion with the opinion. Yo, I think I've been the biggest cheerleader for Patty on this movie in this community..even being told how she's made crap since Monster. I'm more excited for this movie than any of the stuff that's come out. One thing has nothing to do with the other..
Hmm..lol.
Gordon Shumway
Banned
I'm good, man..just find it funny folks have been on the acting defense. Certainly isn't warranted..yet!
What? A couple of minutes with a couple of lines hasn't "proved" anything lol. There's plenty out there to say otherwise.
And this isn't me saying that's the case here. I'm hoping what I've said from the beginning..Patty "directs" her.
Where has anyone said Gal is a great actress? At best, I've seen people say she's decent or not as bad as she's accused. People just find the behavior of Campea and some of her detractors incredibly offputting and/or a little creepy.
It's not always about the opinion being expressed, but how you express it.
It's not always about the opinion being expressed, but how you express it.
There's more to acting than just saying lines. In the few meaty scenes she has, you can read so much into who she is from the way she walks, the way she looks and the facial expressions she makes. I think that's an indication of someone who is doing solid work. Watch the scene in the ballroom where she has a chat with Bruce and pay attention to the expressions she makes. She's pretty slick.
I don't think acting is some terrific skill. You and me could probably do it if we took a few classes, so I've never been worried about Gal. WB was going to make sure she knew her stuff.
Leo_Sagittarius
Member
So what will be the case if Gal does a good job acting wise?
Is it because she got better at it or will people chalk it up to Patty/Pine carrying her through the movie?
Is it because she got better at it or will people chalk it up to Patty/Pine carrying her through the movie?
Gordon Shumway
Banned
Guess you miss it, but it happens. Not about to scorer post to find it, but the hang up in this nobody is making folks say funny things..just saying.
And this is a fair point, and one that I bring up when talking about Marlon Wayans..sadly, I don't think we'll ever see him act as phenomenally as he did for Aronofsky. There right director can work all sorts of magic. Its what I'm going for here..no doubt. Thursday is too far away!
Could be both? But to deny that directing isn't a part of it is..strange.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Guaranteed the latter. People are committed to the narrative at this point.
Gordon Shumway
Banned
I don't agree. Having a strong ensemble with you, like Robin Wright, also helps things. You talk to these actors. Take pointers. They help push you. Film making tends to be a family affair. She'll hopefully benefit from all the talent surrounding her and push to do her best. It's the way I've been taking it, personally..perhaps I'm just too positive lol.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Oh, I misread. I definitely think she's improved vs. her Fast & Furious days, and it's possible she's gonna level up again. I just think that the official line is "I don't have to eat crow, she still sucks and she's just getting carried."
Leo_Sagittarius
Member
That would be the logical answer, yes, but remember on the realms of the internet, there is no in between, it's gotta be one thing or the other.
Directors do help make the actors better. I'm sure Patti was there to guide her in the right direction. Snyder does the same thing. He'll pull out something from everyone he works with. Has Gerard Butler ever been better than he was in 300 or Haley as Rorschach?
Gal absolutely benefitted from working with a great team.
Gal absolutely benefitted from working with a great team.
Smokey_Run
Member
I think it has to be a combination of the two.
She's talked about how not being native English speaker has impacted her ability to improvise a scene even if she has an idea. However, she's fine improvising from a physicality perspective like her smile during the Doomsday fight. Her English has gotten better based on recent interviews.
While she's making strides on that front, which should open new avenues of expression for her, you need the people around her who are willing to let her try and fail, but be encouraging. Patty and Chris appear to be the right people for that.
Gordon Shumway
Banned
I think this is where there's a disconnect for me..in fact, I need to start taking this into account in here. I'm just not hung up on what some YouTube, or any other commentator, has to say about a/b/c. Again, they're nobodies. My real life friends? Wife and kids? Sure..I wanna hear their opinions.
The rest is just, if anything, for entertainment purposes. Lawd knows I don't agree with the majority of these personalities when it comes to the bulk of movies. I hate the term "turn your brain off" in defense of garbage movies. I like what I like..that's about it.
Yes sir..
Gordon Shumway
Banned
Should I judge for myself? At least I don't call actresses a fucking bimbo..relax.
Have you seen the trailers? She's terrible, so wooden.
Well there are actresses who play bimbos because that's what they are used for and it's fine. You don't see Pamela Anderson having a defense force or anything.
Campea is a manchild who had a hard on with Jamie Alexander. And he liked the movie. As he had a personal issue with the movie, it means the movie is good enough to make an opposing opinion indefensible.
Gordon Shumway
Banned
Come on, Kate..
Discotheque
Banned
Gal was ok in Fast and Furious (just there for window dressing really. like that new hot chick from Game of Thrones, but still a lot better than some of the real awful appearances like Ronda Rousey lmao)
but she was pretty damn bad in that spy movie with Jon Hamm, which in itself was no good but she stood out as being particularly bad.
However in the Wonder Woman clips she seems fine. I get being really skeptical of her prior to this, I damn sure was. But it seems like she nailed this role so thats great. You get occasional god tier outliers like McAvoy, Bale, Jackman etc. in lead superhero roles but generally these roles are filled by people who just gotta get the job done and be fun and watchable action heroes. Which it seems like she's doing going by those clips.
but she was pretty damn bad in that spy movie with Jon Hamm, which in itself was no good but she stood out as being particularly bad.
However in the Wonder Woman clips she seems fine. I get being really skeptical of her prior to this, I damn sure was. But it seems like she nailed this role so thats great. You get occasional god tier outliers like McAvoy, Bale, Jackman etc. in lead superhero roles but generally these roles are filled by people who just gotta get the job done and be fun and watchable action heroes. Which it seems like she's doing going by those clips.
Forgive me.
Gordon Shumway
Banned
What? The fuck are you doing right now? Do you fucking hear yourself? I'll let y'all clean up..
bryanee
Member
They're a women hired to play a role. How about we don't fucking call them bimbos, yeah?
They are bimbo roles, that doesn't mean they are (I know I used that verb, I'm sorry, as English is not my first language I often use the "to be" verb as a shortcut, as it's used in my language, but of course it doesn't apply).
I was just using Gordon's words to illustrate there is nothing inherently wrong with that.
Discotheque
Banned
You could word that a bit better haha. Roles cast primarily for sex appeal. It's pretty common among a lot of young male and female actors.
broncobuster
Banned
Mentioned before, Gal in WW is Chris Evans in Winter Soldier quality (which, imo, is his standout after two middling turns), and one of the best recent actor to character matches in the genre. That's not to say she's a better actor than a Mark Ruffalo, but she's better at playing Wonder Woman than he is at playing Bruce Banner... if that makes sense.
I'll say, Tom Holland as Spidey has potential to be up there, too, despite Homecoming seeming kinda shaky. We've yet to see him really get into the emotional stuff as Peter, but Holland is solid at drama in other roles.
I'll say, Tom Holland as Spidey has potential to be up there, too, despite Homecoming seeming kinda shaky. We've yet to see him really get into the emotional stuff as Peter, but Holland is solid at drama in other roles.
Holland is a fantastic actor. His performance is the literal least of my worries about Homecoming.
Hey bronco, was the dubbing noticeable? I've heard some re recorded lines in the new trailers. Of course she sounds far more comfortable now and it's for the best (even if I loved her hard accent) but there's always the possibility that it sounds/looks unnatural on film.
Hey bronco, was the dubbing noticeable? I've heard some re recorded lines in the new trailers. Of course she sounds far more comfortable now and it's for the best (even if I loved her hard accent) but there's always the possibility that it sounds/looks unnatural on film.
KDash31987
Member
Not DC, but I picked up two Zack Snyder movies on Blu-ray earlier for $5 each. I saw 300 in theaters and liked it, but I've never watched Sucker Punch, though I was interested in it
The only movies of his I don't own now are Dawn of the Dead and Legend of the Guardians: The Owls of Ga'Hoole...though I'm not really all that interested in them, but maybe I'll pick up the former at some point if I see a cheap copy. I only own Batman v Superman digitally, though, thanks to a fellow member here (Dead). I plan to pick it up on Blu-ray eventually.
The only movies of his I don't own now are Dawn of the Dead and Legend of the Guardians: The Owls of Ga'Hoole...though I'm not really all that interested in them, but maybe I'll pick up the former at some point if I see a cheap copy. I only own Batman v Superman digitally, though, thanks to a fellow member here (Dead). I plan to pick it up on Blu-ray eventually.
KDash31987
Member
Maybe I'll watch it sometime this week. I'm also planning to rewatch Batman v Superman before watching Wonder Woman on Thursday.
broncobuster
Banned
Nope. Really the only nitpicks I have on technical aspects are about the spotty CGI.
I know which one you're talking about and, yeah, pretty damn awesome. I'm still not sure how they pulled that off because it looks so smooth.
Sucker Punch is a cool movie. It's all the shit that Snyder has in head come to life. I get why people don't like it but I don't get why some people treat it as if it's the worst thing ever made.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Oh, hey, I saw Guardians today. Good movie, but it's doing that Marvel thing and I've already forgotten most of it lol. Some great moments though, especially when they linked the licensed songs to the action choreography. Yondu tha GOAT.
Also, never let it be said that Marvel can't make a very pretty movie when they want to. They're still struggling with basic superpower stuff in these, but the color choices were just inspired.
Also, never let it be said that Marvel can't make a very pretty movie when they want to. They're still struggling with basic superpower stuff in these, but the color choices were just inspired.
PhantomX1313
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Holland is a great actor, and I like him in CW, but he seems like he's gonna be annoying in Homecoming the same way Garfield was. I hope I'm wrong though.
Now that Jackman is out, the current kings are Big Ben as Bruce and Chadwick as T'Challa.
Good to hear that Gal is great though. I thought she did well in BvS, so I never got the skepticism.
Really good to hear, thank you.
Gordon Shumway
Banned
Your words. You'll get a pass tho. Done with this double standard..enjoy yourself.
Corpsepyre
Banned
So, are you guys ready for hell?
Que?
If that's hell, I don't want to be in heaven.
I was born ready.
PhantomX1313
Member
Hella hell boi
PhantomX1313
Member
Idk but did you guys saw this that's a scene they're shooting, this actually makes me want a soda named Aquaman
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damaged
GringoSuave89
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I'll judge it in post.