James Sawyer Ford
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That’s too strong of a blanket statement
If you have a shit studio like Sony London, and its operating costs hurt your ability to invest elsewhere, you should be able to adjust as needed
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Debunked: Arrowhead has been acquired by Sony. Announcement coming soon
That’s too strong of a blanket statement
If you have a shit studio like Sony London, and its operating costs hurt your ability to invest elsewhere, you should be able to adjust as needed
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Sony has been consolidating their company for over 10 years. They almost spun off their tv division because it did so bad, but ended up keeping it. They sold off VAIO, and is in process of spinning off almost off of its highly profitable financial/insurance division right now.
AltogetherAndrews
Member
Very doubtful that Sony would have even allowed them to develop the game for 8 years, had it been an internal studio.
Killjoy-NL
Member
Sony and Square-Enix is a unique situation, as Sony and SE have long history, going back to Squaresoft.
When Squaresoft had financial troubles after FF Spirits Within flopped, they approached Sony to buy shares, making Sony the second biggest shareholder for Squaresoft.
Years later, Sony sold back their shares. I doubt there is much "moneyhatting" going on, just close business-related ties and good standing.
Sony Buys Stake in Square - IGN
Sony Corp. announced today that it's purchased a 18.6 % stake in Square Co. Ltd., placing Sony as the second biggest share-holder in the giant software maker. Sony's 14.9 yen ($124.4 million) capital investment is the first of its kind for Square, which always has developed games for the...
Why Sony Sold All its Square Enix Shares Revealed - IGN
It appears Sony's decision to sell all its Square Enix shares isn't down to any bad blood, but rather returning a favour.
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
If the buyout is true, good on arrowhead for getting some stability. Just be warned arrowhead execs and game designers. Given their history you might be pigeon holed making Helldivers games for the next 20 years. Once sony notices a studio gets a solid IP under their belt, it’s sequel and remaster city.
BoxFresh123
Member
I think they changed all their bio stuff to say they were independent after one of the Sony accounts leaked one of those welcome to Sony images for Bluepoint.
DrFigs
Member
i know you're doing a console war thing, but this is an actual w for microsoft. only problem is that it's 700Sony: Acquires the studio which released one of the most popular multiplayer games this year
Meanwhile Microsoft:
BigLee74
Member
Call of Duty says you don’t have a fucking clue who you are trying to burn here, matey.Sony: Acquires the studio which released one of the most popular multiplayer games this year
Meanwhile Microsoft:
daninthemix
Member
Damn, as a PC player this makes me nervous.
Oh wait - it won't actually affect me at all. Phew!
Oh wait - it won't actually affect me at all. Phew!
John Wick
Member
Arrowhead are just so much bigger than Bethesda and Activision Blizzard.I know. Imagine if Sony acquired their biggest studios like Naughty Dog, Guerilla, and Insomniac...
ShadowkillXNA
Member
You dont think Helldivers 2 is one of the most popular multiplayer games out now?
Btw don't forget that CoD will be on playstation systems as well for at least the next ten years.
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Killjoy-NL
Member
It was a Sony IP anyway.
ShadowkillXNA
Member
Why would there be an Xbox release of a game in a franchise tthat's owned completely by Sony and whose installments were all funded completely by Sony?
ChorizoPicozo
Member
dont loose hope.
mayham2199
Member
My toaster oven looks better than my PS5. Unfortunately\fortunately the amount of people buying consoles for how cool they look is like less than 1%. The rest of us want games.
FF:Enhanced_Reality
Member
I know. Imagine if Sony acquired their biggest studios like Naughty Dog, Guerilla, and Insomniac...
Studios is one thing.
Publishers... Now that's another thing.
And yes, I am firmly against Sony acquiring Bungie.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Good luck to everyone involved.
mansoor1980
Gold Member
this does not help anyone in the video game industry
Shut0wen
Member
So ms gets the get out card if they brought moon studios, cool
Little Mac
Gold Member
Wouldn’t surprise me. Good for Arrowhead … I hope. You can never tell in these situations. Sony needs to take a hands off approach and just “let them cook”. They’ve earned it.
Snowdonhoffen
Member
Yeah, no one would have complained if they bought Moon Studios. Absolutely no one complained when MS bought Playground or Undead Labs.
Hudo
Member
Let's hope the "hands-off" approach doesn't backfire like with Bungie.
Angry_Megalodon
Member
It's pretty easy to understand. If you put money, technical resources, personnel, assistance from other studios and the fucking IP is yours, the studio is virtually yours, though not legally.
The same would apply if they bought Kojima studio since they gave him the Decima engine and infinite help.
Also, they have actively assisted in the development of Stellar Blade and some other games. Equalling that to an upfront acquisition of a third party like Capcom, Activision or Bethesda is god-level ignorance.
Said this, I would prefer nobody else fall under Playstation's current management. They better clean the house first. Once deadweights like Haven, MM or Bungie are removed, then think of acquisitions.
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Shut0wen
Member
I thought playground was a new studio just for forza? I just dont understand why its ok to buy a single studio but not a publisher i mean theres literally no difference, id even say bethesda studios has always had a better relationship with with ms then the whole of zenimax, especially considering they worked extensively with morrowind, oblivion and fallout, Activision they obviously have some relationship with ms due to cod being stuck to every xbox 360 boxes theres literally no difference
Embearded
Member
Didn't the owner just say that without MS there wouldn't be Ori?
It's natural for MS to buy Moon Studios, a second party studio, if the owner is looking to sell.
Why is it so hard for some to understand that?
Some studios and games exist because of close or exclusive relationship with some publishers and platform holders. Some of those studios don't even own the IP they thought in the first place because they didn't have money to proceed with the development and the publisher fund the project. I remember reading Sean Murray took a loan and risked his own home so he could keep the IP even though he could have taken Sony's money.
BigLee74
Member
Did I say anything contrary to what you said? I don’t think so! Just having a go at the walloper poster who thinks that only Sony have acquired a popular MP game…
rhodesianshepard
Member
GT7 and MLB the Show can be very predatory. We will know for sure how Sony operates its gaas monetization when Concord releases in a few months because they own them
Arrowhead has publicly stated they don't plan to emphasize monetization until they have "earned it". I just dont see Sony operating in that fashion. It would be industry leading and truly extraordinary if Sony does that for all their upcoming gaas games, but I think that will be unique to Arrowhead
StueyDuck
Member
i mean it's just rumor.
but Sony should have put a ring on that finger ages ago (like them and few others instead of bungie)
but with current sony seemingly exploding i hope they don't and they just continue to publish there titles instead
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fersnake
Member
dont know just saying, i though because its a gaas game it would be better to have more players spending more money right? doesnt matter to me, already have it on pc and besides i own a ps5.
Embearded
Member
I swear this idea of 1st party games making economically sense to release on comoetitors platforms only started a month ago with Microsoft's strategy change.
It doesn't make sense if you are winning the race and keep selling consoles.
That sweet 30% cut from every game sold on your store is important.
iHaunter
Member
All of them have been partnered with Sony for years. Much like BluePoint.I know. Imagine if Sony acquired their biggest studios like Naughty Dog, Guerilla, and Insomniac...
Also Sony already OWNS the Helldivers IP.
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Where did this line of thinking originate because NO ONE was asking for Helldivers on Xbox until it became a hit. Are people actively campaigning for the other GaaS in development to be on Xbox or is it just FOMO with this one particular game?
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
You don't know how much they cost.
Aenima
Member
Thats called management. Things that are not working are cut off to bring on new things that work. And i didnt knew you called you boss Daddy. Hope he supports you untill ur 18.
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thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Gold Member
You can also print stickers out for the same effect at 1/100th of the price.
Just curious: when were acquisitions 'interesting' for you and why?
If they're acing those exams, they're failing the internships.
Aenima
Member
How is GT7 Predatory? They dont sell DLC, thers no season passes or lootboxes to spend money on. Every update is free. Only thing you can spend money on is on game credits, and since launch that they have increased the ways ppl can earn game credits in the game. For example GT7 is much less grindy now than the old GTs that didnt had the option to purchase credits. I have around 300 cars in my GT7 garage, while in previous GTs my garage had around 100 cars.
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DeltaPolarBear
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Yeah. studios are not interchangeable. The ability to cut studios that are not productive should not stop you from acquiring new talent.
It certainly sound like Sony is very deliberately using their 2nd party programs as a type of vetting process. You can call it "organic" if you want. I personally see it as smart business. You spend some money developing games with young small studios, and if they end up proven themselves capable, you hire them. It is the Goldilocks zone between buying established studios at a high price and buying unproven teams for cheap. Sony basically wait until the last possible moment before it gets too expensive, to hire a studio who is about to become famous. It is Talent Scouting.
If the story ended up being true, I hope the Arrowhead CEO contractually demanded freedom to do things his way. Because the line between a good GaaS and a bad GaaS is paper thin.
You reminded me that Xbox fans used to brag about the sheer quantity of studios under Xbox. And i always wondered why they think that is a good thing when most of these studios are basically doing nothing productive that we know of. Got to cut the fat sometimes.
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Johnny Concrete
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You played the wrong version. Try Helldivers TWO…
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can I get a fist bump. But thanks for the sentiment at any rate 
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I don't think you understand how the economics of this work. Nor have you probably not been in charge of a company at all? If you have you would have more of an understanding of what you are saying making no sense. And this is not a Sony defensive point this is just a strictly how business works and it's not worth the argument or is it personal.
Bumblebeetuna
Member
I know. Imagine if Sony acquired their biggest studios like Naughty Dog, Guerilla, and Insomniac...
Anyway good on Arrowhead if true. I’m kind of over HD2 already but I’ll come back when there is more content.
Perrott
Gold Member
Why are you acting as if shutting down a historically worthless operation such as the London Studio was some sort of irresponsable decision from a management standpoint? In any case, the irresponsable thing was to keep them running for this long considering how it's been 15 years since their last hit product, EyePet.
Also, for one reason or another, Firesprite, Naughty Dog and Insomniac have all had projects canceled or not greenlit in the live-service initiative, which seems to be winding down, so if Sony were to find themselves in need of cost-cutting, it'd be natural for them to target these studios.
The only layoffs that do seem unwarranted are the ones at Guerrilla, but even then we don't know how Horizon Online is coming together behind the scenes. For all we know, it might even by another TLOU Online situation, as it's been in the works in various capacities for nearly six years now.
Puscifer
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That's what I'm playing
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Phil Spencer the spinner.
sendit
Member
Imagine being an adult and paying 700 for this.Sony: Acquires the studio which released one of the most popular multiplayer games this year
Meanwhile Microsoft:
Perrott
Gold Member
Bluepoint as well.
I remember that after the PlayStation JP Twitter leaked the acquisition, the studio's Twitter bio was saying something along the lines of "We're Bluepoint Games, an independent game studio from Austin, Texas." for months up until they were officially acquired.
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