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Digital Foundry: Three Hours with the PS4 Pro
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CambriaRising
Member
It's still better any way you slice it.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
why would you be dumb for getting a more powerful PS4 ?
Downsampling is a fantastic cure to aliasing, which is an inherent benefit to rendering in higher resolutions than 1080p.
EASTC0AST_GH05T
Member
Absolutely not, the only reason I still have my OG PS4 is to play BF1 a bit before the pro launches. I also game on a 1080p tv.
You will benefit on VR and games going forward with Pro. Some older games are also getting patched. You play more so why not get the benefit for 1080 of more stable frames, some will be downsampled, etc.?
SenkiDala
Member
I did the same this week.
Really looking forward to play on Pro. I'm also on a 1080p tv.
BigEmil
Junior Member
Pro also includes better WiFi, Sata, newer Bluetooth and usb, more futureproof with hdr and all and more stuff outside of visual enhancements compared to launch ps4.
SenkiDala
Member
Also it record games at 1080p, a very sweet improvement imo.
OG PS4 supports hdr
eighty(one)
Member
What is downsampling?
I see this thrown around to benefit 1080, but what does it do differently or to improve? The tv only will display 1080, you can't change the tv resolution?
You take an image thats larger than the screen you are displaying on and it shrinks it down.
You know how when you run a 720p game on a 1080 display you get jaggies everywhere? Supersampling is, and does, the opposite.
Nice clean edges everywhere.
I don't see how it does. This smells like BS. Or it's some fake HDR.
It does. You can use it now with Deus Ex: Mankind Divided.
Google it. It does.
It's not true HDR. There is no way. HDR required 4k and hdmi 2.0. PS4 has neither.
If MS was was doing this there would be a huge shit show.
Go google how HDR works.
maquiladora
Member
HDR is just about the range of contrast with brightness levels, it doesn't require any extra intensive processing in the PS4...it's not comparable to things like resolution or frame rate.
Downsampling is when the game runs at a higher internal resolution than the TV's base resolution.
I am well aware that they added "HDR" on the last firmware update. I am questioning whether its true HDR.
It seems it was added for the benefit of the PS4 pro which will properly support HDR in 4K. I chose to get BF1 on PS4 instead of my Xbox One S in anticipation of the better visuals and HDR support on the PRO. Even though HDR support will be added to the Xbox version.
I have Gears 4 and its fantastic in HDR. The One S has and HDMI 2.0 connection to support "true HDR" however.
GinoFelino
Member
Dude, wth are you talking about?
HDR needs 4K to be 'True HDR' and MIcrosoft wouldn't get away with it to have this lesser form of HDR, but then later you say that it's only the HDMI connection that's needed for 'True HDR' and it's fantastic without 4K after all? What?
Man, you yourself should google what HDR really is and leave the console bias BS for what it is
Dude, wth are you talking about?
HDR needs 4K to be 'True HDR' and MIcrosoft wouldn't get away with it to have this lesser form of HDR, but then later you say that it's only the HDMI connection that's needed for 'True HDR' and it's fantastic without 4K after all? What?
Man, you yourself should google what HDR really is and leave the console bias BS for what it is
I said its both, 4K output and HDMI 2.0. That is my understanding. All the current HDR content requires 4K.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#Version_2.0
The speculation from the wonderful and crazy Jeff Rigby was that the PS4 was overspecced in the first place. While it was only labled as 1.4, it actually had the requirements to meed the as yet (at the time) unfinalised 2.0 standard.
From the people at what hifi
Sony confirmed in September that all Ps4s get HDR10, and not Dolby Vision.
http://m.ca.ign.com/articles/2016/09/07/playstation-4-update-will-make-every-console-hdr-compatible
Also, you don't need a 4k output for HDR, but the point is moot since they don't make 1080p HDR TVs. :/
http://m.ca.ign.com/articles/2016/09/07/playstation-4-update-will-make-every-console-hdr-compatible
Also, you don't need a 4k output for HDR, but the point is moot since they don't make 1080p HDR TVs. :/
Thank you. I don't want to start a war here. Was honestly curious.
Have been reading through this thread also which some have said what you posted.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/51n6fg/ps4_to_get_hdr_in_firmware_update/
Thanks. This makes sense.
HomerSimpson-Man
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HDMI 2.0 is required to support the bandwidth for 4K and HDR. HDR into itself doesn't need to be 4K, half of UHD Blurays are just 2K masters. HDMI 1.4 has the bandwidth to do 1080p with HDR for videogames which is true HDR.
Kikorin
Member
I would prefer developers use the improved hardware for a stable framerate and better effects.
Maybe it's me, but I've a powerful PC (GTX 1080) and a 65" 4K TV, and I really can't see any difference from 1080p to 4k, unless I switch the two resolution really quickly. Probably this resolution is worth if you play really close, like 1 meter from the screen or similar.
Maybe it's me, but I've a powerful PC (GTX 1080) and a 65" 4K TV, and I really can't see any difference from 1080p to 4k, unless I switch the two resolution really quickly. Probably this resolution is worth if you play really close, like 1 meter from the screen or similar.
SenkiDala
Member
https://www.vg247.com/2016/09/08/ps4-pro-captures-4k-screenshots-but-only-1080p-videos/
A very cool bonus indeed! Looking forward to it. It's great because now you absolutly don't need a capture card or any hardware to capture PS4 gameplay! Well except for 60fps (maybe it will be patched?) and 4K... That's enough for me.