Yeah. I'm only gonna run with 4 or 5 characters. It'll be too much work to have more than that if I want to build them up to some insane level. In Disgaea 1, I had two characters... Laharl and a ninja that was basically untouchable. He could run levels by himself and between him and Laharl, I could go deep into the item world with relative ease. Heh, was awesome. I don't think ninjas are as hax as they were in that game, so more backup would be good. Otherwise, it gets to be too much of a pain to handle 15 or more characters. That's how I started out in the original game, but later decided to limit my crew to 8, to 6, to 3, to 2. Of course, those characters were broken as hell by the end of the game. Heh, heh.
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Yeah. I'm only gonna run with 4 or 5 characters. It'll be too much work to have more than that if I want to build them up to some insane level. In Disgaea 1, I had two characters... Laharl and a ninja that was basically untouchable. He could run levels by himself and between him and Laharl, I could go deep into the item world with relative ease. Heh, was awesome. I don't think ninjas are as hax as they were in that game, so more backup would be good. Otherwise, it gets to be too much of a pain to handle 15 or more characters. That's how I started out in the original game, but later decided to limit my crew to 8, to 6, to 3, to 2. Of course, those characters were broken as hell by the end of the game. Heh, heh.
UncleSporky
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Nah man, it's fine now. Even with "worst in industry" being debatable, it's not much of a condemnation when you're talking about 5 players. That's like talking about the worst Smash Bros game. It's still an awesome game, just less awesome than the rest.
TheGamingBox
Banned
the fact you cant deactivate it remotely is a plus. the fact you can do it yourself with the ps4 is a huge negative, since i often hear of many stories of people getting screwed over because their account is taken over by hackers who do deactivate their systems and then cant deactivate
Only if they haven't activated 2FA. No "hacker" should ever be able to deactivate a PS4. Remote deactivation is huge positive when I have needed to use it on many occasions. When you need it, not having it makes things a huge pain.
The bunnysuit is for Seraphina for her sprite and profile image. I said yes since I love bunny suits hahaha!
Hispanicguy
Member
1) It's ok if you haven't played the past games. I haven't played since part 1. You can jump right in and 5 is the perfect choice.
2) Story mode isn't bad until you reach the later levels. Difficulty sets in when they introduce different geo panels. That takes some thinking instead of purely going up to someone and attacking. It's a nice change of pace IMO. Depending on how you're leveling up, that may be a factor as well but there are many ways for you to overcome whatever wall you may hit.
3) There's other things to do if you want to break away from the story. Things that help you level up your characters/items/moves. You may seem overwhelmed but everything they offer gives you an easier time when grinding. You don't NEED all of it during the story but it helps that it's there if, again, you hit a wall. Post game is a different story.
4) I finished the story at 20 hours, but that's because I was trying to rush through it as fast as I could. It really varies. How many people are you trying to level up? Are you spending time in the item/chara world? Do you keep hitting a wall and have to keep grinding? Hours can range 20+ just for story.
5) Download the demo! I see this game being better as a digital title but I picked up a physical copy. Seeing physical copies of these Switch games makes me happy, lol. It all depends on how hooked you get when playing the demo. Btw, your demo save won't transfer to the full game so don't go crazy grinding!
ZombiePlatypus
Member
Sorry if it's been discussed to death, but if I want to use all the DLC characters does that make my team too big and leave no room to recruit others from the recruit person in the pocket netherverse?
I only ask cause veteran players keep recommending to focus on a small "elite" team.
I only ask cause veteran players keep recommending to focus on a small "elite" team.
I'm not sure what the limit is on members, but I have 87 in my list right now. So the answer is no. You can only dispatch a certain amount to any given map though. The small team is just to ensure you are strong and focused enough to take down later enemies. Unlike most games, you can actually do 0 damage to enemies so the concept of overwhelming with numbers doesn't cut it. You need some really buff units in there somewhere.
OmegaDL50
Member
No. You can have all of the DLC characters and all of the generic humanoid and monster classes. When creating a character it tells you how much space you have left for recruits. It's just over 100. (128 max really, this includes all uniques plus generics you create / hire)
The reason why it's good to focus on a smaller team for the purpose of getting through the story mode it's easier to manage a group of 6 characters in terms of equipment and how much exp they gain, as opposed to having ton of characters which you need to spend all of your money to outfit them or go out of your way to level them all up to keep them relevant.
In the post-game it doesn't matter how much recruits you have because you'll get to the point in which you can level a bunch of characters all at once to 9999 in single battle, but for the sake of story mode it's just more efficient to stick with a small group that acts like a sweeper team that kills everything.
Worthintendo
Member
Wouldn't be surprised if retailers put pressure on the publisher to delay it
names2hard4you
Member
It's not their stats if you go look. It's their weapons. I sure ain't complaining though lol. I bet this "overpowered" feel won't last very long though.
damn, that's bad, didn't care about it when it was announced but things changed after I played the demo lol
Ghost Slayer
Member
How accessible is this game? I bough Disgaea 3 for Vita at launch and gave up at the middle of tutorial because holy shit, I could't handle the amount of information I need to know they gave in tutorial chapters
Is it just in the hub when walking around, or does it actually happen during battle?
The game gives tons of information, but most of it is optional. It too many systems/statistics bothers you then you may never care for it in all reality. That's the major draw of these games(besides the off the rails anime part).
Can anyone confirm that demo save game transfers to full to continue from - on Nintendo Switch?
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Nope. :-(
http://nintendoeverything.com/disgaea-5-complete-demo-data-cant-be-transferred-to-the-full-game/
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Nope. :-(
http://nintendoeverything.com/disgaea-5-complete-demo-data-cant-be-transferred-to-the-full-game/
OmegaDL50
Member
I usually treat the main story campaign in a Disgaea title as little more as a glorified tutorial. Hence the subtitle for OT for the PS4 Disgaea 5 thread.
If the story game content takes 20 to 40 hours for some folks. To fully complete all of the additional chapters and maps unlocked in the post game, it can easily take an upwards of an additional 100+ hours over the base game. It is the post-game in which you gain access to everything and truly take full advantage of every mechanic available in the game.
KenzinFive
Member
I'm still in the intro chapter (because I'm grinding quests because why not), but I absolutely love that the way you get one of the trophies...is by passing a bill demanding that trophy. That's the cheeky meta-humor I enjoy about this series.
This is awesome to read. I played a bunch of the previous Disgaea games but never for all that long, because I got too overwhelmed with characters and trying to level them all. I'll just roll into every level with six for the story!
OmegaDL50
Member
Why I remembered this I have no idea....I usually change the hub music once I get tired of it. I prefer Sabat, or the hub music from Disgaea 2 which is Wonder Castle.
Being able to change the Netherworld base music to whatever you like another great thing about Disgaea (well at least in the newer games)
JimJamJones
Member
Newbie to the series question - how do I get mana? I'm on the
area and it seems like I haven't gotten much mana at all to upgrade abilities and such.
Poisondise
UncleSporky
Member
I'm also new-ish...seems like just fighting, same as anything else. You can get innocents to boost mana earning.
OmegaDL50
Member
Mana is earned from killing enemies.
The formula is not quite 1:1 but it's fairly close.
For each enemy killed roughly it's level is earned in Mana.
Kill a level 10 enemy and you earn about 10 Mana. However whoever gets the kill earns the Mana.
Later on this isn't an issue because you start to unlock Squads that allow you to share Mana for kills and with the Cheat Shop you can earn hundreds of thousands of Mana with minimal effort.
Mana is only used for improving Skills, Purchasing new Evilities, and passing bills in the Assembly.
This is another good reason why it's good to stick to a small team of characters just for the story portion. All of the Mana you accumulate from kills is saved for your most used characters to be able to pass the most important Assembly bills, such as the Cheat Shop, and unlocking the Boot Camp Squad among others as well.
JimJamJones
Member
Okay that makes sense, thanks. I've been running 12 people at a time, so that's probably why it seems like it's almost nothing. Time to cut my team down.
TheGamingBox
Banned
It's out tomorrow, so from midnight online I would think
TheGamingBox
Banned
the release date for europe is the 26th
I had to look this up last night, as it was driving me nuts, lol
Specifically the part "Searching for what, I have forgotten" the latter part sounded like "I have a button" and I was like, that can't be right...
How odd, the eShop distinctly says 25th and has said so since I've seen the game page when I got the demo. Is that how they list a midnight 26th launch on there? If so that's stupid.
Hispanicguy
Member
You probably won't like this then. There's a ton of information. In terms of the story, you won't need all of it but post game, it would be good to know how everything works. Give the demo a try, if anything.
I'm currently in post game. Just unlocked Martial Training 3. This is where I'll be spending some time.
My highest character is Flonne, at 834. Laharl and Girl Laharl are in the 500's.
I unlocked some of the challenge maps. These are fun! Challenging in how you need to plan out what you want to do.
I did play a few rounds of Chara World. Going to concentrate on raising aptitude.
Having such a great time with this game.
robotzombie
Member
damn, I just got 15 bucks credit from amazon because they once again screwed up a release date delivery for me (samurai warriors spirit of sanada). I was gonna use it on this game but I guess it is selling out? Because amazon has "ships in 1-4 weeks"...
I should be starting this today. Any tips? I have not played any previous Disgaea games but got hyped into this.
I love boosting characters, earning equipment and getting super powerful so hopefully I will like it. Comments about the story being throw away actually got me more interested because I just want a badass game to grind in on my Switch.
I love boosting characters, earning equipment and getting super powerful so hopefully I will like it. Comments about the story being throw away actually got me more interested because I just want a badass game to grind in on my Switch.
gcncontroller
Member
I can't remember for certain since I've spent so much time in the Item World it blends together with my story outings, but I believe
Item World unlocks after you finish chapter 3 and Chara World unlocks after chapter 5
I took the starter kit of weapons and all the characters.
However, unequip the DLC character's weapons as they're crazy overpowered. I think all the characters themselves start at level 1 so they're not inherently OP.
So far really enjoying this game as a relative newbie to the series (couldn't get through much of 2 or 4).
The characters are very good, but start at low levels.
1 Million HL is as busted as it sounds in the early game.
The extra classes are just a nifty unlock to have for options. Feel free to get those.
UncleSporky
Member
1 million isn't really busted. Oh boy, you can buy as many level 3 axes as you want, and recruit as many level 6 witches as you want. It doesn't break anything since you unlock stuff to buy as you play further in the story, and before long you're earning a ton for even regular maps.
I was often intrigued by the Disgaea series, but always ended up buying something else. Having only recently beaten BOTW, this release was timed perfectly. MK8 is too frustrating to play for long, and Puyo Puyo Tetris too frantic. Disgaea 5 seems a slow burn that I will savor for months.
Still very early, and overwhelmed as everyone else. The game has ample help options to tell you what needs to be done, but not so much on how to actually do it.
Like, the Bonus gauge. How do you fill up the Bonus gauge in the early levels? I know, you create combos and chain attacks, but that is impossible to do when the first character that attacks OHKs the enemy.
I've not unlocked any DLC OP characters. I've not grinded at all. The initial Prinnys and Maid OHK nearly everything in Blood Parch, and I get 2-3 items from the Bonus gauge. Surely I'm missing something.
Skimming this thread, there is obviously a lot more to this game than I have seen early into chapter 2, so perhaps the answer will become clear. It just seems strange that the game offers this seemingly broken system early on.
Looking forward to digging into this over the long weekend.
Still very early, and overwhelmed as everyone else. The game has ample help options to tell you what needs to be done, but not so much on how to actually do it.
Like, the Bonus gauge. How do you fill up the Bonus gauge in the early levels? I know, you create combos and chain attacks, but that is impossible to do when the first character that attacks OHKs the enemy.
I've not unlocked any DLC OP characters. I've not grinded at all. The initial Prinnys and Maid OHK nearly everything in Blood Parch, and I get 2-3 items from the Bonus gauge. Surely I'm missing something.
Skimming this thread, there is obviously a lot more to this game than I have seen early into chapter 2, so perhaps the answer will become clear. It just seems strange that the game offers this seemingly broken system early on.
Looking forward to digging into this over the long weekend.
You almost certainly won't get up to Rank 10 on the Bonus meter in the early game, and that's okay. It always has those 10 ranks, even when it isn't realistic.
UncleSporky
Member
I'm not sure what the real answer is because again I'm pretty new to the game, but attacking in a tower formation fills the gauge a ton. Stack up 10 people, kill everything that way, make sure the person on the bottom isn't killing with counterattacks. You can fill it easy on some levels with a lot of enemies.
I did it on like 1-4 just by using tower attacks.