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Do we have to worry about Notch?
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the_batman
Banned
yeah, like right now
in the US, family immigrated her from south east asia
don't think being white has anything to do with it
Srey Plaughtered
Member
Not cool mate. I've suffered from depression and it's a void you never want back in your life. And I'm definitely not a part of this 'first world' everyone speaks of.
You don't know what you're talking about. Do you understand that depression is a neurological problem? Or do you think neuroscience is some madeup fairytale? The brain is one of the least understood organs in our body and here you are saying it's "common sense." What's common sense is that you don't know jack about mental illness.
Read the comment being replied to. No one can fully empathise with another's suffering. Depression or what ever he is going through is not some universally "same" thing between individuals, with the same "fixes". Also something being well studied doesn't mean it is solved or has meaningful solutions. A lot of the advice given here is ridiculous
Yeah no.
Don't be such an ignorant bellend.
Consider yourself so damn lucky you've been sheltered enough from it and never struggled with it personally, or had someone close to you have to.
Doesn't work like that.
It's not "just do this and get happy
easy!"It's really disheartening to see how many people are jumping in on the schadenfreude train. Notch is an average guy thrown in to extraordinary circumstances. I think he's been a pretty decent human being throughout all of this, he's certainly done better than I would have.
There is no single piece of advice you can give someone who is suffering depression that will help them. Sure he has enough money to afford whatever council or transient pleasure money can buy, but that should tell you that depression isn't something you can make go away with a snap of your fingers.
There is no single piece of advice you can give someone who is suffering depression that will help them. Sure he has enough money to afford whatever council or transient pleasure money can buy, but that should tell you that depression isn't something you can make go away with a snap of your fingers.
The_Hitcher89
Member
What was he like before Minecraft took off?
I don't really keep up with his statements, so it seems like he's spent the last 4 years trolling people or moaning about his life
I don't really keep up with his statements, so it seems like he's spent the last 4 years trolling people or moaning about his life
Strangelove77
Member
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
That sucks, since Notch has generally always seemed to be an all around good guy and the situation hes in now apparently looks like he has no one to really share his thoughts with.
Scientist Supreme!
Banned
Idk how someone going through depression could have no empathy for someone doing the same.
Also you didn't answer the last question.
StrangeTaco
Member
From what I've heard from people with money, it sometimes becomes hard to associate yourself with middle class people when you have so much money. It's not because they think they're so much better than people, but people start treating and viewing them different because of their wealth. It becomes easier for them to associate with other wealthy people because they treat them as equals.
Not sure why some people are unsympathetic for the guy just because he's made some bank off Minecraft. Seems like a pretty cool guy all around and depression is a bitch, best of luck to him.
Absolutely no sympathy but human nature can be awful. Morrissey said it best...
"We hate it when our friends become successful"
"We hate it when our friends become successful"
his father had drug issues and killied himself a few years ago. had a hard time making friends at school, ended up dropping out if I remember correctly. spent all of his twenties programming. has explained the partying as making up for lost time. after the success he quickly got married to his gf but they divorces soon after.
Scientist Supreme!
Banned
Why do people in this thread have be such assholes. Jesus Christ.
If I have all the money but no idea what to use it on other than keeping me alive, there's basically nothing in life to look forward to anymore.
You need to find something that you can study/improve upon, if not life just gets pointless and depressing. I have quite a lot of hobbies, and I'll probably just splurge them all on it if I were him, and then look for even more outrageous hobbies, like piloting a plane myself. Or starting a new company?
Since Notch likely has no work now, from those tweets it seems like he's basically living day-to-day using the money to survive, albeit in lavish ways. But there's a limit to satisfaction using money, and sooner or later you will need a new challenge.
Also, I can't even imagine how to stop past friends from leaving me if I got his money. You can try to be the best-best-best friend in the world, giving money to satisfy the needs of your every friend, but they will more likely leave you as they feel their circumstances are way too different from you (no common ground to communicate), or feel they are just being a leech to your money. Only people who you share true camaraderie with, which Notch does not seem to have, will actually stay with you and satisfy your social needs.
You need to find something that you can study/improve upon, if not life just gets pointless and depressing. I have quite a lot of hobbies, and I'll probably just splurge them all on it if I were him, and then look for even more outrageous hobbies, like piloting a plane myself. Or starting a new company?
Since Notch likely has no work now, from those tweets it seems like he's basically living day-to-day using the money to survive, albeit in lavish ways. But there's a limit to satisfaction using money, and sooner or later you will need a new challenge.
Also, I can't even imagine how to stop past friends from leaving me if I got his money. You can try to be the best-best-best friend in the world, giving money to satisfy the needs of your every friend, but they will more likely leave you as they feel their circumstances are way too different from you (no common ground to communicate), or feel they are just being a leech to your money. Only people who you share true camaraderie with, which Notch does not seem to have, will actually stay with you and satisfy your social needs.
His upbringing was fairly turbulent but in terms of personality, Notch has always been fairly grounded and somewhat humble during Minecraft's early days. No different now.
It's just insanely ironic to see people take his Ibiza tweet and construct this mental picture of him as a selfish party-hard when he's donated thousands of dollars to charities through things like Humble Bundle and AGDQ. People demand him to do "something good" with his money for a change when he's been doing it for longer and in larger quantities than people in this thread would most likely like to think, or have even done themselves, just because he wanted to make a point about personal gain that flew over everyone's heads.
Dreamwriter
Member
I've read about that with lottery winners who tried to keep working normal jobs, most can't handle it. When everyone else knows you are rich, you will be constantly bugged about loaning money, some people will resent you / be jealous, the employer sometimes doesn't trust you because the normal methods of incentive to do good work (potential paycheck size / having a job) don't apply to you.
zombipuppy
Member
Lots of misinformed, spiteful posts in this thread regarding depression, and mostly because he's rich. I wonder if those same people lambasted Robin Williams any time he spoke of mental issues.
Dude is clearly suffering and going through some tough shit. Money doesn't mean you're guaranteed a healthy mind.
Honestly, the stigma of depression needs to fucking go.
Dude is clearly suffering and going through some tough shit. Money doesn't mean you're guaranteed a healthy mind.
Honestly, the stigma of depression needs to fucking go.
SaintMadeOfPlaster
Member
RoninChaos
Member
It's difficult to respond to this point by point because I'm on a phone so I'll answer what I can.
In regards to the "does he know how to?" questions, the fact that he's already realizing that how he's coping isn't helping him is evidence enough that he knows there's a problem. It's up to him to find a solution because he obviously knows there's a problem. His answer isn't going to come over night and it isn't going to come via twitter. I get that sometimes you need to vent. I posted on here about having to put my dog down. It was awful and I needed to say something to someone as I was alone. My wife and kid were out of town and I needed an outlet. I can assume and sympathize with him for putting his feelings out there if he was alone it feeling alone.
Please see my other post about depression. I can sympathize if he's feeling isolated and feeling like he has nothing to fill that void he's found internally. It was probably always there and his wealth made it, in his mind, worse, because the normal shit he used to do he can't do anymore. What I can't sympathize with is the fact that he's acting like he has no options to deal with the current problems he's having. That's comical in a way because it's the furthest thing from the truth. He made a comment that he would do something g like Elon musk but he doesn't want to deal with corporate people. HE DOESNT HAVE TO because of his money. His money gives his the means to deal with these things in a way that the average joe could only dream of. Want to do something creative? Go do it. Want to sit on your ass all day? Do it. Hence why you have so many people in here like "fuck this guy!". It's a shame he doesn't realize it.
I saw Kevin Smith recently and he said that the best thing about having money (and he doesn't have a fraction of what notch does) is that he could wake up and go "I want to work on a script today" or "I want to smoke weed and make a podcast about batman" and his financial situation allows him to do things that he finds fulfilling. Notch is in an even better position to do this kind of thing and instead he's partying from Ibiza.
I hope he gets this figured out. Life sucks when you don't find fulfillment in things but unlike the average person he has the means to try whatever he wants until he finds it. That and a good therapist would do wonders for him.
the_batman
Banned
oh so now you're saying I'M pretending to be depressed!
The_Hitcher89
Member
yeesh
Must be fucking weird when success and pressure doesn't really make you happy, but money doesn't either.
Like, where are you supposed to go in life when that is the situation? Give it all away and start from scratch, but you're still the guy who created Minecraft so that's not really an option. Carry on trying to buy happiness, but that doesn't seem to work.
Canis lupus
Member
It sounds like he's been doing nothing but enjoying the high life since he sold minecraft, and the effects of partying hard and abrupt change of lifestyle is starting to affect him, I dunno how he didn't see this coming.
Why doesn't he invest and revive some old franchises as a passion project. Still do something for the greater good, make gaming great again. So many of us are saying "oh my god if I had that money I would bring this and that back, give Shenmue 3 the missing 5 million $ etc", well too bad Notch didn't turn out to be like that.
This. It's not like he had to buy the most expensive house and do the things that make him depressed. Maybe he should take some notes from the other Swedish billionaire
Why doesn't he invest and revive some old franchises as a passion project. Still do something for the greater good, make gaming great again. So many of us are saying "oh my god if I had that money I would bring this and that back, give Shenmue 3 the missing 5 million $ etc", well too bad Notch didn't turn out to be like that.
This. It's not like he had to buy the most expensive house and do the things that make him depressed. Maybe he should take some notes from the other Swedish billionaire
It's as if buying a $70,000,000 mansion in Beverly Hills to throw parties with famous DJs was not a great way to live a normal life. Weird!
Hard for me to be sympathetic for Notch with how he started out of the gate once he got his money.
EDIT: I do really hope he finds the direction and meaning he's looking for. I definitely don't wish any kind of depression upon anyone.
Hard for me to be sympathetic for Notch with how he started out of the gate once he got his money.
EDIT: I do really hope he finds the direction and meaning he's looking for. I definitely don't wish any kind of depression upon anyone.
Worse is: Wow, he came in to a ton of money and spent it on fun things, no sympathy for him! He deserves to be depressed!
First of all, good on you that you overcame your challenges.Respect for that.
But really, you can never say someone else has it easier. You are a different person and there is no means to know how someone else's state of mind actually feels, regardless of having similar problems in the past. There are succesfull people out there who seemed to "have it all" yet they comitted suicide. But they had money and no mandatory tasks to prevent them from getting well. Sooo, they had it easy? And even if he does have it easier, why say "fuck him" because he has problems and words them? I heavily disagree with that line of thinking.
On a sidenote, I am not saying Notch has a depression, but I think people are quite easy to judge "successfull" people.
Scientist Supreme!
Banned
Nope. Saying it's pretty heartless that you won't see depressed is not just a first world problem. Implying that it's not a big deal.
SaintMadeOfPlaster
Member
People seem to think that mental problems aren't real if you have money, you know because money solves everything.
GAF is really showing its immaturity here.
"This human is worth less because other people tweet about him more"
the_batman
Banned
the one idea someone posted about moving somewhere else and basically starting a new life seems possible for him.
well yeah, i'm wrong about that.
well yeah, i'm wrong about that.
Permanently A
Junior Member
I feel bad for him. I hope he'll find his niche to settle down.
Zomba13
Member
I think he is saying that he cares more about the poor and mentally ill than the rich and mentally ill because at least the rich and famous have the money and attention to seek help more easily than the poor guy no one cares about.
I obviously don't know Notch but I hope he can find something new, fresh and positive to do for himself. I'm not saying give your money away or anything like that but find a new passion, hobby or something that comes from his heart that he can find happiness in. Find a new job for yourself. Consolting maybe? Motivate young developers in speaking events? Write a book? Not sure. But money can't buy you happiness, so I hope he finds his new happiness that is in his heart.
Of you course you know better what should I do and how should I feel.
Don't get me wrong. Depression is toxic, harmful and simply dangerous condition (considering he really has it, and is not just casually whining on social media) for anyone involved.
But one thing is having it when you can afford the best psychiatrists and medication, travel all around the world, help ones in need, make the world a better place, easily start new studio, get the best education and start entirely new career etc etc etc. Being rich closes some doors, indeed, but also opens many new ones.
And another thing is being severely depressed stuck in a North Korea-wannabe shithole of country with no future. With no money, no prospects. No medication, no therapists.
Maybe I've just been too salty and angry in this thread. And I'm sorry for that, I understand that Marcus is just another human being, and can be hurt just like me and you. But I'm sorry, I really can't symphatize with that. Maybe there's something wrong with me.
RoninChaos
Member
It sounds like he's been doing nothing but enjoying the high life since he sold minecraft, and the effects of partying hard and abrupt change of lifestyle is starting to affect him, I dunno how he didn't see this coming.
Why doesn't he invest and revive some old franchises as a passion project. Still do something for the greater good, make gaming great again. So many of us are saying "oh my god if I had that money I would bring this and that back, give Shenmue 3 the missing 5 million $ etc", well too bad Notch didn't turn out to be like that.
This. It's not like he had to buy the most expensive house and do the things that make him depressed. Maybe he should take some notes from the other Swedish billionaire
Here's the thing, he seems like a good dude. I know he's donated money to charity and things like that. But if he was worried about losing friends or not being normal the his first step shouldn't have been to buy a 70 million dollar house. If I got stupid rich that would be the first thing I would avoid. No one is going to want to fuck with you if they're in a two bedroom apartment and you live in a house with 25 bathrooms.
Oh look, you're a fucking idiot!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ing-map-of-depression-rates-around-the-world/
But no, guys we should all listen to this edgelord 12 year old about what depression truly is
| Praxis |
Banned
Can't this just be a symptom of his depression? Some people self medicate with drugs, he's attempted to do it with extravagant purchases.
RadarScope1
Member
If I ever had that much money (or even a fraction of it) I would start a foundation and begin making grants for causes I care about. You hire a small staff to work with applicants and process the requests. You then have a reason to go the office and feel like you're doing something with your life. And no, it's not the same as just giving away money to friends. It's structured and actually helps people in need.
Partying in Ibiza isn't the answer. Christ.
Partying in Ibiza isn't the answer. Christ.
No it is because he is richer and more successful than me therefore I hope he suffers