Mostly just that when all of this is recalled....how ever many years down the line, Paul Ryan would have his place in it, and it could be positive if he's willing to go against Trump. At this point, he's already being labeled an awful speaker with Trump turning against him, so this would certainly be the best move for him.
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Donald Trump (through Judge Jeanine): "Paul Ryan needs to step down"
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Mostly just that when all of this is recalled....how ever many years down the line, Paul Ryan would have his place in it, and it could be positive if he's willing to go against Trump. At this point, he's already being labeled an awful speaker with Trump turning against him, so this would certainly be the best move for him.
Mineshaft_Gap
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I don't think you understood exactly what I said or what I meant. But I don't think it's worth trying to explain because I feel like it's all pretty much laid out. Maybe you should read my post again? Or I don't know... do something else?
I'm sorry that you feel that I feel that way. You're still my brother and I'd give you a hug if you were here right now.
Sure did but people's lives didn't depend on my having it ready lol
Shows how much they actually care about improving lives
Shadow Puppetry
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I thought Trump supporters say Trump's tough. He can't tell that to Ryan's face?
Azure Dream
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He is the FUCKING President. He doesn't get a pass due to not knowing how things work.
Vestal
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I think you missunderstood his interpretation of historic.. All of his mentions are towards moments in history were great Powers have fallen.
Vestal
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Its more that I think Ryan got a lot of assurances when he accepted the job, lets not forget that he never wanted this job. The problem is that they weren't calculating Donald Fucking Trump winning the presidency. He had an ally in Preibus in the WH but some reports are saying that aides are pushing Trump to kick Reince out.
Did she just say that nobody expected the president to know how to do his job because he was an outsider? Shit like that pisses me off because Obama was extremely qualified and they Republicans talked down to him now we have an idiot in office and it's okay he doesn't know what he is doing?
This just furthers the point that to be black in America you have to be twice as good as your white counterparts and to be white allows you to be mediocre in your job and still be seen as an asset.
This just furthers the point that to be black in America you have to be twice as good as your white counterparts and to be white allows you to be mediocre in your job and still be seen as an asset.
KidGalactus
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It's happening, isn't it?
DontBeThatGuy
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He was literally out there saying, "I alone can fix it (everything)". Dems should really be out there pushing this failure on him as much as humanly possible.
sooperkool
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Ahhh, i was watching the game at the same time... I'll take the hug though.
EatinOlives
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"This is NOT on Mr Trump, he merely backed a shit bill that he didn't read, failed every possible attempt at negotiation, pulled his own bill a mere 60 days into his presidency despite it being his flagship campaign promise that he bragged would be done on Day 1, giving up on it because of his lazy ass.
But this is NOT HIS FAULT"
But this is NOT HIS FAULT"
I was only joking but fuck if I don't see this as an actual possibility. Try to primary out the Freedom Caucus and more moderate republicans for Trump diehards. That's a scary proposition.
But but but he has a note from his parents!
I have never believed this. He wanted to play the reluctant hero. Be remembered just like Rayburn.
superdeluxe
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As have been mentioned in the past, Repubs will only act once their jobs are in the line. Now is that time
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
No Trump.
You screwed it up. You were the one to make the wire tapping tweet that was easily exploitable by the Dems and the media so all the attention went to that. You were unable to make the push early on. You were scared to commit to it the moment you heard someone say "Trumpcare". Now we're stuck with it. Fuck right off with your bullshit. It's one of the few things I actually want and expect out of you and you failed to deliver.
You screwed it up. You were the one to make the wire tapping tweet that was easily exploitable by the Dems and the media so all the attention went to that. You were unable to make the push early on. You were scared to commit to it the moment you heard someone say "Trumpcare". Now we're stuck with it. Fuck right off with your bullshit. It's one of the few things I actually want and expect out of you and you failed to deliver.
Vestal
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Sure everyone saw that opportunity in that regard. But make no mistake about it, he only agreed to the job after a lot of arm twisting and agreements.
John Bohner for all his faults was on the brink of pushing through one of the biggest bipartisan legislation in history, and the FC blew all of that up. So the signs were there wide and clear regarding what would happen to his successor unless there were some solid agreements.. Those agreements died the moment Trump won.
Mineshaft_Gap
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This should be how all arguments end on the internet.
GoldenEye 007
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Too late, though. The window for healthcare is closed. They're not going to be able to write a new bill, get it supported/marketed, passed in the House, then debated/modified in Senate, then sent back to House, then finally signed by April 15th.
And tax reform hinged heavily on this healthcare bill. Now, they'll need to redo the budget to find the "savings" from this failed healthcare bill in order to keep the tax cuts budget neutral. Otherwise, they'll need 60 votes to pass it.
Which they won't get. That would be two major, cornerstone GOP initiatives defeated less than 100 days in. That's hard to recover from.
Master Yoshi
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Why didn't this sort of logic apply to Obama?
Your president in six months..
This would be an improvement for sure.
HP_Wuvcraft
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Had to fix it. Apologies to all 5 year olds.
The GOP (and even Hillary in the primaries to some extent) made one of their main critiques of Obama his inexperience. The GOP specifically hit him for only being a "community organizer" and playing up the idea that he would be weak and ill-prepared for the week-to-week issues that come up in the White House.
But Trump? He gets a pass because _____.
old manatee
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It pleases me to no end that Paul Ryan has had to publicly eat Donald Trump's shit all year.
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UberTag
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Dude turned 83 this week. Trump's losing his mind to senility and he still has 13 years on Orrin.
spazchicken
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Wow she is pissed.
Also a lost cause. What a drone.
Also a lost cause. What a drone.
BoogieWoogie
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"I didn't talk with the President. He just told everyone over Twitter to watch me tonight for no reason!"
Donald is such a fucking bitch. Its crazy.
Donald is such a fucking bitch. Its crazy.
PeskyToaster
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Congress as a branch has more power than the executive if they actually have the desire and the balls to wield it. The branch itself have been slowly eroding itself in favor the executive so now there's really only the judicial branch to check the executive. One of my main hopes back before Trump was president was that if he was actually going to get the presidency (god dammit) then he would be such a fuck up and hated by both parties that the Congress would try to 'reactivate' some of the checks they have let falter. Like war powers and so on. So hopefully Trump is vindictive and Paul Ryan responds in kind so we can have a real Congress again. A man can dream.
Spider from Mars
tap that thorax
"I want to be clear," she concluded. "This is not on Little Donny. No one expected a 1st grader to completely understand the nuances, the complicated ins and outs of surgery and its tools. How would he know which areas upon which he was supposed to operate?"
Exactly.
I believe it's a majority (excluding abstentions), but it's not a documented rule/requirement.
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