Krillin, Piccolo, Vegeta, Hit.
Goku is the biggest player, someone stop this man from breaking more hearts.
You forgot Tien.
Krillin, Piccolo, Vegeta, Hit.
Goku is the biggest player, someone stop this man from breaking more hearts.
I have to be honest. I've only watched BoG, RF, and totally skipped the U6 and FT arcs. I'll wait for the dubs to watch those. Maybe.
I watched the movies, not Super. I've only started Super with the Universal Survival Saga.so you watched the bad bits and skipped the good stuff
They're learning.Huh the latest XV2 patch changed some of the names, it's just SSJ blue and Rosé goku black now.
Huh the latest XV2 patch changed some of the names, it's just SSJ blue and Rosé goku black now.
I watched the movies, not Super. I've only started Super with the Universal Survival Saga.
Rewatched G. Black saga... it's been pretty boring. I think it was the nostalgia factor of a new story with Trunks that propped it up on first watch.
The Good:
-The scenes giving more background on the extended lore on universes and kais are cool
-Goku Black is cool, SSJ Rose is cool
-Future Trunks returning, in concept, is sweet. Scenes with Vege, Kid Trunks were good
-The destroyed future setting is cool
-The voice actors performance, SSJ Rose in particular
-The ending scene with Giygas Zamasu
Essentially: The outline of the story is great
The Bad:
-Zamasu's motivations are barely fleshed out, and kind of stupid tbh
-Arc is short but drawn out. Multiple trips back and forth between the same 3 settings over 30 episodes
-The dizzying time travel shenanigans
-SSJ Blue Vegito's execution. Pretty much pointless in the grand scheme of things.
-Lot of unexplained, unsatisfying stuff. SSJ Rage, Spirit bomb sword, etc (Remember the weeks of build up to SSJ R?)
-Zen-oh button with the universe erase, then Whis sending Trunks back. Ending in general was just stupid, fast, unsatisfying, ruined the whole story of the arc IMO.
Essentially: The execution of the concept was bad. Some parts were too much, some not enough, making it so overall it was fairly mediocre.
I'm still glad for it, but watching it as the episodes came out was way better. Watching it back to back made the flaws really noticeable.
The scene was dope, don't get me wrong. Storywise it didn't make sense, and ultimately served no purpose because Zen-oh had to erase Zamasu anyways. You can make an argument that the sword not killing Zamasu was better for the story, but IMO it didn't feel that way for me
They went to a timeline where Zamasu was stopped by WhisWait...trunks future was erased by zeno, right?
Where did whis send him then?
Geez, it ended not too long ago, but I can't remember...
Wait...trunks future was erased by zeno, right?
Where did whis send him then?
Geez, it ended not too long ago, but I can't remember...
Wait...trunks future was erased by zeno, right?
Where did whis send him then?
Geez, it ended not too long ago, but I can't remember...
The whole 'powered by guts' "trope" doesn't really depend on it making sense though, because it most cases it doesn't. It's what makes these 'Brave' type anime what they are.
You could say it feels out of place in DB, but it's seriously not that different from "rage boosts"
I mean look at this fight.
At the start of the clip he's pretty much beaten and outclassed in every way, but then his "determination", in this case 'courage', pretty much draws power from nowhere and makes him stupidly more powerful
It's essentially the same thing as trunks vs zamasu, cept trunks' determination ran so deep he unconciously, perhaps even desperately started drawing power from "hope", in this case genki energy.
Personlly I think it's fucking awesome.
Watch the Champa.filler (except for that dumb purple water part) and FT sagaI watched the movies, not Super. I've only started Super with the Universal Survival Saga.
I watched the movies, not Super. I've only started Super with the Universal Survival Saga.
I watched the movies, not Super. I've only started Super with the Universal Survival Saga.
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It's fine if you disagree.
I didn't mean they didn't completely explain things, it's that the explanations were paper-thin or just not good, in my opinion.
The only thing I liked about the Trunks arc was Trunks being the main character.
You're just mad that Gohan didn't do crap
I don't get how the explaination were paper-thin. Especially compared to other stuff in the series.
You're just mad that Gohan didn't do crap
Nah, Nando's points are pretty much why I disliked it. Decent concepts, awful execution.
Gohan gave emotional support.
I loved Zamasu because he's the only character in the franchise who started out on the same side as the good guys and then became a villain, instead of the contrary.
He didn't started on the Z good guy team though,he was supposed to be neutral and pretty much was a rotten appleI loved Zamasu because he's the only character in the franchise who started out on the same side as the good guys and then became a villain, instead of the contrary.
I don't get how the explaination were paper-thin. Especially compared to other stuff in the series.
That was poorly done too TBH.
He was obnoxious and patronizing the very first second we saw him.
So it really didn't come off as a surprise, and he hadn't done anything as a good guy so it was kind of a waste.
He didn't started on the Z good guy team though,he was supposed to be neutral and pretty much was a rotten apple
Well, brief storytelling can be okay, but for stuff like Zamasu's motivations, it could have been done better. I mean yeah, he hated ningens because they kill and whatever, so he wanted to deal this twisted form of justice.
That sounds great in concept, there are a shit load of villains in other stories with the same motivation. The way they did it was lame since immediately you saw through it, and the catalyst for him turning evil was the most "paper-thin" aspect about it.
The story didn't give off the sense he was teetering on the edge. It feels like they threw it in your face, rather than show it little by little.
It would have been better if they made the viewers invest and believe in Zamasu somehow, so that once he started to show signs of wanting to kill ningens and Gowasu, it'd have more of an impact
To me it was so obvious he was G. Black but the mystery aspect made you think big twists were coming. When the twist was the multiple timeline mumbo-jumbo, it kind of fell flat.
Still a unique character in the entire franchise. All the other villains started as villains and either die or become good guys.
I agree that his motivations could have been handled better but what you are describing is not Dragon Ball at all,this is really Zamasu .Well, brief storytelling can be okay, but for stuff like Zamasu's motivations, it could have been done better. I mean yeah, he hated ningens because they kill and whatever, so he wanted to deal this twisted form of justice.
That sounds great in concept, there are a shit load of villains in other stories with the same motivation. The way they did it was lame since immediately you saw through it, and the catalyst for him turning evil was the most "paper-thin" aspect about it.
The story didn't give off the sense he was teetering on the edge. It feels like they threw it in your face, rather than show it little by little.
It would have been better if they made the viewers invest and believe in Zamasu somehow, so that once he started to show signs of wanting to kill ningens and Gowasu, it'd have more of an impact
To me it was so obvious he was G. Black but the mystery aspect made you think big twists were coming. When the twist was the multiple timeline mumbo-jumbo, it kind of fell flat.
Huh the latest XV2 patch changed some of the names, it's just SSJ blue and Rosé goku black now.
I think it's Zamasu having more motive than "I'm evil!".
Hey, that's not fair. Some Dragonball villains have realistic motivations.
Taopaipai -> Money
Freeza -> Money (also racism)
Commander Red -> Napoleon complex
Android 17 -> Bored
I'm pretty sure people like that exist in real life.
I mean i have to check have present 17 and 18 ever killed anyone? besides gero who i think kidnapped them and was going to enslave them
They used to be criminals and 17 carried a gun around, I doubt he somehow managed to never use it.
If I recall correctly they caused a bunch of car crashes too but I don't know if the drivers survived.
The only thing I liked about the Trunks arc was Trunks being the main character.
They used to be criminals and 17 carried a gun around, I doubt he somehow managed to never use it.
If I recall correctly they caused a bunch of car crashes too but I don't know if the drivers survived.
Hey Trunks was an apprentice (for some reason) and healed Goku so he did something
The names are still the same for me.
Which is funny because that's the only good thing Toyotaro decided to ignore. <3
I'm enjoying the hell out of "watcher Trunks" so far. /s
Nah, Nando's points are pretty much why I disliked it. Decent concepts, awful execution.
Aweful execution seems harsh since it was no more flawed than any other arc in Dragon Ball and it doesn't run on everyone being morons like the Android/Cell and Buu Saga.
Hey Trunks was an apprentice (for some reason) and healed Goku so he did something
What, you don't like petty White Mage Trunks?
Can you picture Brianne or the Pride Troopers in Z? Brianne has to be the most WTF "this is so anime" character in the entire franchise.
Trunks next chapterJust saw the preview image. Guess Goku will be happy to haveas his next sparring partnerGolden Freeza
sure. And i'm certain that after zamasu defuses and Goku and Vegeta beat Black down and hold him still. Trunks might be allowed to smack him with the sword at least once
Just wait until Trunks sees a video of universe two and upgrades to magic boy status
Sailor Trunks and Tuxedo Mai will defeat all