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Dragon's Dogma Online 1st Trailer
- Thread starter GameE
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Like in DD1?
Looks good enough, plus, beggars can't be choosers.
Yeah I don't know how they worked in DD1 either.
Ninja Scooter
Member
Damn Sony and Capcom getting cozy this gen. Can I get a new Maximo?
They did with Dead Rising 3 which did pretty well for them so maybe they'll work with MS on another franchise.
"Cooperation in development" is a vague statement considering that can mean anything but the X1/360 has a sizable enough base in the US region to still be a good enough potential source of income for Capcom to release it on those platforms.
Crossplay shouldn't even be that big of an issue given Microsoft's Windows 10 focus so they can set up the game to play across 360, Xbox One, and Windows devices.
They follow you around and assist you in combat just like in other RPGs. They can also gather items for you when exploring and stuff like that.
Same as DD1. Follow the AI routine you assign them to and talk a lot.
The pawn system was fine. I ended up liking it quite a bit.
TheRealTalker
Banned
looks good
I hope the reconsider not bringing this to other regions
I hope the reconsider not bringing this to other regions
Miles Quaritch
Member
It's the model that makes the most sense. I'd happily drop £5 a month for a couple of years.
Just saw them. I'm in, all the way. Hell, I'll spend 60 bucks on day 1 and just treat this thing like a retail game.
It's back you guys. In pog form.
Mass Effect
Member
Looks good so far.
Now we just need to know about the how the F2P system will work. Hopefully it won't be too bad.
Now we just need to know about the how the F2P system will work. Hopefully it won't be too bad.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
Maybe. There seems to be a lot of animosity which is a new one on me.
How bad are we talking?
Legitimate, of course.
Sword Familiar
178% of NeoGAF posters don't understand statistics
You sat down with them and answered a few questions which altered some hidden parameters which in turn altered their "inclination". You could also give them potions to alter specific parameters which would change the pawn's inclination further. This in turn would alter their behavior when moving independently and how they responded to specific commands. There were only a few commands available though, so it wasn't terribly advanced in that regard. Hopefully they'll expand on this in Online.
I get the impression it's practically become a meme where people automatically say "Capcom is trash and can't do anything right," and I assume they're talking about some of the missteps they've done (like going crazy with on-disc DLC with SFxT or canceling a bunch of Mega Man games), or not liking Capcom's games last generation.
As far as I know, Capcom has never done free to play in the console or PC market, so there's no indication they'll handle this in a good or bad way.
Mobile game publishers have ruined the reputation of F2P forever. Zynga almost single handledly made the idea of F2P completely toxic in the eyes of gamers everywhere.
Admiral Woofington
Member
I'll never forgive them for the bullshit they pulled with Megaman Legends 3. But I'm not about to swear off Capcom.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
Mass Effect
Member
They could bankroll a new Megaman. That'd be cool
Though Nintendo seems like a more likely candidate for that.
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
Member
Capcom are making more boneheaded decisions than usual in modern times, but I agree it becoming more a meme than anything.
Honestly, if you look at the amount of good games they released last gen, they're heads and shoulders above any other publisher (barring Nintendo, maybe).
They definitely have made some huge missteps (I'd include not porting Dragon's Dogma to PC as one of them), but some people behave as if Capcom are incapable of making anything good, and they ignore the fact they have made some incredible games last generation. I'd also give them massive props for treating the PC platform really well the last 2 years (and even before that they were one of the few Japanese publishers to release anything worthwhile on PC).
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Yeah thats what I'm going to do. Spend the amount of money I would to buy a retail game into the F2P model. If me and my friends get really into it then it will increase.
It' not one specific thing, it's a litany of small but costly mistakes that usually end up hobbling the experience of the consumer for reasons, or otherwise just come off as super poor business sense.
Things that immediately pop into my mind:
-DLC and Gems in Cross Tekken.
-Not doing the backstage steps to make UMVC3 DLC instead of a 40 dollar hard purchase
-Hiring Spark Unlimited, a dev team that has had 0 successful games to revitalize Lost Planet, which ended up burying it
-Mega Man in general
-Leaving the stitches of cut material Dragon's Dogma 1 everywhere in the game
-Not doing the backstage steps to make Dark Arisen DLC instead of a 40 dollar hard purchase.
-The complete lack of general supervision with DmC
-Cacpcom
etc etc etc.
TL
R - Capcom knows better, but they keep making the same mistakes again and again, which causes everyone to be really leary.Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Yeah I wonder about that too. Can't help but feel they'll cannibalize each others.
I kind of wish F2P games had the option of buying it full price and getting a ton of benefits while also offering the regular F2P model. I'd totally straight out buy an F2P game like this.
Edit: Well by benefits I mean stuff everyone can buy via micro transactions of course, not things exclusive to the full buyers.
Iva Demilcol
Member
Ok, I'm playing Onigiri and so far I just bought a sexy piece of underwear for my character... If DDO does the same regarding e-money to just purchase hats and things like that, then I'd approve this version of DD.
Do you have any examples of that? I know there's a bunch of stuff they were planning on adding but didn't (then again, that's very common in game development), but I can't remember stumbling upon any uncompleted content in DD1.
Mr. Smiley
Member
Some F2P games do that like Project Spark on XB1. Dunno how often it happens throughout though.
Except the business models don't fit. F2P is designed to be supported by whales. That's how MHF-G works, and I assume the reason this isn't coming here is because the F2P they use in the JP market would be 100% rejected by Western audiences.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Oh wow, great idea. Have the game filled with awesome armour, but make the pervs pay for their stupid magic panties and bikini mail like suckers. I'd be okay with that!
...It'll totally be the other way around, won't it. ;_;
I fucking hope so, dragons dogma and (dark arison) is truly a fantastic game. I've been looking forward to more for awhile now. nex gen only please and don't forget the PC!!!! I want mods.
If this game has microtransactions like that it would make me reluctant to play it. I don't like Pay To Win.
Pinko Marx
Banned
Yup. Looks like Dragon's Dogma alright. Looks good.
I'm just a little worried about how they'll handle questing and just going out and exploring the world.
DD1 had some pretty cool quests and a good portion of those were branching. Some of them even took place exclusively in town. How will they handle stuff like that?
I'm worried the role playing aspects of this game will suffer with the move to online.
I'm just a little worried about how they'll handle questing and just going out and exploring the world.
DD1 had some pretty cool quests and a good portion of those were branching. Some of them even took place exclusively in town. How will they handle stuff like that?
I'm worried the role playing aspects of this game will suffer with the move to online.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
There is a building in the main city (which I keep wanting to call Gran Pulse instead of what it's actually called) next to the second pawn society building that is clearly placed for either potion or weapon crafting, but since that stuff was stripped out, it's just a closed off building with no purpose. The two other factions (the thieves guild to the north and the rogue army to the south) were also cut back significantly to only have a handful of side missions associated with them. Most of the side characters backstories end with allusions to other factions that never made it into the final game, particularly Mercedes' and her brother. It's really easy to see where stuff was cut, it wasn't cleaned up at all.
You just end up not caring that much because the combat is fun and the weapon upgrade system isn't really all that bad. I'd expect everything that was cut from DD1 to be prominent in DDOnline, at least if they want the game to have legs.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Yup, which is why I'm hoping it's subscription based.
Pinko Marx
Banned
A sub based game like this would be destined for failure. More and more games are going F2P nowadays for a reason.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
It' not one specific thing, it's a litany of small but costly mistakes that usually end up hobbling the experience of the consumer for reasons, or otherwise just come off as super poor business sense.
Things that immediately pop into my mind:
-DLC and Gems in Cross Tekken.
-Not doing the backstage steps to make UMVC3 DLC instead of a 40 dollar hard purchase
-Hiring Spark Unlimited, a dev team that has had 0 successful games to revitalize Lost Planet, which ended up burying it
-Mega Man in general
-Leaving the stitches of cut material Dragon's Dogma 1 everywhere in the game
-Not doing the backstage steps to make Dark Arisen DLC instead of a 40 dollar hard purchase.
-The complete lack of general supervision with DmC
-Cacpcom
etc etc etc.
TL
Now I get it. Eep.
Blitzblotz
Banned
If we had promise of a nextgen DD2 being in our futures i'd be very pleased, but this is looking great, too.
I mean...if this is successful, this is how we get it...