Somehow I doubt there will be journalists willing to draw their line in the stand over some terrible mobile game, I know I wouldn't.
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EA Will Charge For Fuel (as a stamina bar) In Need For Speed: No Limits (Mobile)
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Somehow I doubt there will be journalists willing to draw their line in the stand over some terrible mobile game, I know I wouldn't.
Coffee Dog
Banned
I like how horrible practices are now excused by "everyone is doing it"
how is that even remotely comforting
how is that even remotely comforting
Mobile games were great before f2p and IAPs
It's on apple to return to its roots.
I really enjoyed the mobile scene when there were lots of bite sized quirky games for $1,2,3 but now it's either a $18au square Enix port or a f2p with IAPs. There's hardly anything in between. Mobile is a complete waste of time right now.
Would rather spend $5 on steam games
It's on apple to return to its roots.
I really enjoyed the mobile scene when there were lots of bite sized quirky games for $1,2,3 but now it's either a $18au square Enix port or a f2p with IAPs. There's hardly anything in between. Mobile is a complete waste of time right now.
Would rather spend $5 on steam games
The same way that a vast majority of other F2P games do.
This is nothing new, why is everyone acting so agast?
What you have to do if like me you enjoy the F2P games is set them up so you can go from one to another
so I have Simpson tapped out, Jurassic park Builder....etc etc, and if you have more than one you can play the time whilst annoying isn't all consuming, if you just have one F2P game you enjoy it is going to annoy quickly
so I have Simpson tapped out, Jurassic park Builder....etc etc, and if you have more than one you can play the time whilst annoying isn't all consuming, if you just have one F2P game you enjoy it is going to annoy quickly
Coffee Dog
Banned
because it's a fucking horrid system? Something being horrid doesn't change just because it's commonly accepted.
We started down that rabbit hole when the horse armor started selling. We are too far down that hole now and its obvious by now people have no self-control.
And it gives everyone a good excuse to rag on EA
It's not accepted as a good system, no one is trying to "excuse" it, it's there, it's been there for ages, it's not going to change, if you don't like it, don't use it.
Because there are people that pay for that stuff.
Now, there should be a debate whether those people should be burned alive or buried alive.
I'm not too sure, but could we hurry up already because i take offense every second those people exist.
It's a F2P game.
90 seconds for a recharge? How long are the races so you don't recharge faster than you complete races?
SerTapTap
Member
Yeah if anything more shit should be slung at these, EA seemed to feel a bit of a sting with all the Dungeon Keeper bad press, though they clearly haven't learned/changed. Also some of the more successful mobile games of last year were actually premium or at least had a mostly non-shit monetization model (Monument Valley, Hitman Go, Threes, Cross Road)
Multiple currencies? lol, fuck off.
I genuinely tried to give this style of game a shot with Spider-Man Unlimited a few months back - I even paid actual money because I think it is absolutely fair to support the developers for making a game I enjoyed playing. But fuck, man. It never ends. They just want more and more and more and more with no actual meaningful payoff, it's ridiculous.
I genuinely tried to give this style of game a shot with Spider-Man Unlimited a few months back - I even paid actual money because I think it is absolutely fair to support the developers for making a game I enjoyed playing. But fuck, man. It never ends. They just want more and more and more and more with no actual meaningful payoff, it's ridiculous.
DXB-KNIGHT
Member
Will the gas prices replicate the real world oil market price?
Polioliolio
Member
I'm aware it's fairly standard. I just can't believe we let the biggest publisher in the western world get away with it. Zynga, sure, but serious games companies in traditional game space using the same underhanded tactics as the thousands of trash ripoff games that stank up the market isn't okay.
Games industry is a joke. One moment it claims it wants to make riveting, emotional narratives and compete with other media in endearing drama.. Oh, but the same company that makes those claims is shamelessly funneling money from what any self respecting critic would call shit games created exclusively to take advantage of people who don't know any better or have no self control.
Just because it's common at this point doesn't make it okay at all.
Edit:
How about a free to play demo with 1 car and one track.. Then after the race "want to keep going? Buy the game now for 2.99"
And by 'buy the game' I mean you get the whole flipping thing.
Uninformed people come out of the woodwork and lose their shit over something that is pretty standard at this point simply because it's EA. There's an argument to be made whether the practice, in general, is predatory or not but that's not the argument people here are interested in making. Rather it's EA = bad. It happened all the time in Battlefield threads where people were raising their pitchforks over various stories about Premium when they didn't even own the game or understand the context.
You are blurring the lines between mobile and other types of gaming.
These types of systems work on mobile, they bring in a LOT of revenue, there is obviously a market for it.
Mobile isn't the platform for "riveting, emotional narratives and compete with other media in endearing drama"
Why would EA, or any company, shy away from this practice when A) it's apparently profitable, and B) clearly there's people who are willing to spend money on this.
Shit costs money. How else can they monetize it if people act like highway robbery for charging even a $1 for a game nowadays?
Probably because shit like this.
The Elite
BOSS
I find if you play these games in the bite sized portions that mobile gaming is good for you never really end up finding yourself in a position to actually have to pay for anything.
I'll play something like this for 5-10 minutes, put it down, and by the time I want to play again everything is ready to go without having to pay a dime.
I'll play something like this for 5-10 minutes, put it down, and by the time I want to play again everything is ready to go without having to pay a dime.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
That's right, Mr. Race Car Driver. Feel the pain of the working man.
GifGafIsTheBestGaf
Member
well they know their fanbase i suppose
Salmonbottle
Member
I actually think this is the best model of f2p. I haven't played one of these racing games, but it's basically just like Candy Crush, right? With Candy Crush, I can get in about 15-30 minutes of gameplay before I hit the paywall, but if I just wait a few hours everything will fully recharge.
My question to anyone who hates that is: Why are you playing Candy Crush for more than 10-15 minutes? It's not a console game. It's not meant to be played that long. I rarely hit the paywall because I don't play mobile games for long, just when I'm waiting at the doctor's office or whatever. If I hit the paywall and still want to play, I can just switch over to a different game. I've never spent a cent on Candy Crush and I've been playing for over a year.
This kind of fuel mechanic would not be acceptable in a console game, the kind of game where you sit down to play for hours. I could understand getting mad about that. But in a f2p mobile game, who cares?? It's absolutely the best option because it will almost never be an issue.
My question to anyone who hates that is: Why are you playing Candy Crush for more than 10-15 minutes? It's not a console game. It's not meant to be played that long. I rarely hit the paywall because I don't play mobile games for long, just when I'm waiting at the doctor's office or whatever. If I hit the paywall and still want to play, I can just switch over to a different game. I've never spent a cent on Candy Crush and I've been playing for over a year.
This kind of fuel mechanic would not be acceptable in a console game, the kind of game where you sit down to play for hours. I could understand getting mad about that. But in a f2p mobile game, who cares?? It's absolutely the best option because it will almost never be an issue.
The Elite
BOSS
It's a model you will find in most mobile games these days. Swap fuel for stamina or some other refillable bar.
Coffee Dog
Banned
Maybe they only act that way because there are so many F2P games on the market
coincidentally, that's how F2P games get their hooks in you, with a very welcoming price tag compared to other apps on the store. Strange how that works.
Impeccable
Member
So basically what you're saying is that mobile gaming like this is best done in short bursts as almost if you were on the road and didn't have a lot of time for extended periods of gameplay in row?
Prevolition
Member
A new low (on fuel). I'm fuming right now.
Polioliolio
Member
Says who, besides the endless shit games occupying the mobile space?
Not all great games need to be dramas, no, but they can be great, complete mini experiences perfectly suited to mobile.
I don't understand why mobile inherently should mean 'ripoff because you're fucking idiots who will pay money for instant gratification'
The Elite
BOSS
Crazy concept.
So what solution would you propose that wouldn't upset consumers while still bringing in money for developers?
I lol'd. Should have been the first post.
Salmonbottle
Member
Mobile is the wrong place to make serious games with depth and quality gameplay. Touch screen controls aren't suited to it, phone battery life isn't suited to it, and phone usage isn't suited to it. I wouldn't want to play Uncharted on touch controls at the dentist office.
Mobile is for flicking candies around. That's all I want it to be. Put the real games on console/PC.
Part of the fun of F2P, for me, is playing the system, keeping away from IAP's and MT's is a bit like a metagame for me.
Junior Mint
Member
Mobile gamers love this stuff so no surprise companies just keep releasing games like this.
Baron_Calamity
Member
Really EA? You might want to look into your staff to see if anyone is trying to sabotage your entire mobile division.
TheSlySoul
Member
So they pretty much learned nothing from Dungeon Keeper huh?
How is it horrible? You know nothing about this game's specific implementation of the system. It could be horrible. If you can only play for like 5 minutes a day, yeah, that's awful. But a good majority of these games give you a good chunk of time to play (like 15-20 minutes) before needing to recharge for a few hours. This is what mobile gaming is about. People shouldn't spend hours playing a single mobile game in a row. That's not their purpose, at least, not these games' purposes. They're there for you to "grind on" while they continuously add new content.
This game is going to make most of it's money off unlocks, not this system (in all likelihood). How about we wait until we see how limiting it is before calling it a horrible practice? Even Chain Chronicles, which is very limited, is not that bad because the people that play it play it once or twice a day for like 10 minutes each time. They're time wasters.
If they still ended up making money regardless of the controversy, what lesson is there to learn other than to keep doing what they're doing?