Maybe not, but still horrible. Not supporting anti-consumer moves like this by Microsoft and Valve as much as possible. What'll be next? They take our games away if we don't agree to their EULA? Oh wait...
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EDGE: The next Xbox: Always online, no second-hand games, 50GB Blu-ray and new kinect
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Maybe not, but still horrible. Not supporting anti-consumer moves like this by Microsoft and Valve as much as possible. What'll be next? They take our games away if we don't agree to their EULA? Oh wait...
Voice of Reason
Banned
Yeah, this would be the last straw. PS4 and PC gaming here I come.
PaulExcellent
Member
I didn't see the "Always-online" thing.
Nope nope nope nope nope.
Nope nope nope nope nope.
I refused to buy Diablo III specifically for this reason, and all my friends did so as well.
And even if I wanted to support such DRM measures, I can't. Where I live the internet is just so damn inconsistent.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Please consumers. Please be smart enough to realise when you're being lead up the garden path to be shot in the back of the head. Do not support this console if this all turns out to be true.
Saying that, we're fucking doomed if both PS4 and 720 do this. Gaddamit.
Saying that, we're fucking doomed if both PS4 and 720 do this. Gaddamit.
Gemüsepizza
Member
But a PC capable of running games at Nextgen fidelity is not. Also, exclusives.
Patrickv27
Member
If Sony will do the same then.. more money for other things then.
Kazuma Kiryu
Member
activation codes? i'm okay with that. always online? no.
They already happily pay to play their purchased games online. Why would they start caring about being dicked now?
KingofGourds
Member
Were I to shake my head at the idea of no used games I fear I would not be able to stop until my head fell off.
The only way this even half functions is if MS and Sony both, as rumoured, go this route. Even then, I'd probably forgo both consoles initially and make PC my main gaming platform until discount prices for first-hand games were more readily available in the marketplace.
The only way this even half functions is if MS and Sony both, as rumoured, go this route. Even then, I'd probably forgo both consoles initially and make PC my main gaming platform until discount prices for first-hand games were more readily available in the marketplace.
StreetsAhead
Member
Refusing to believe this only because I don't think Microsoft is stupid enough to require always on internet AND block second hand games.
And if the PS4 is the same?
Glorified G
Member
Very nice. I'm very much looking forward to this.
Sarcasm?
Azure Phoenix
Member
I refuse to believe these rumours are true, if they aren't then forget shooting themselves in the foot, Microsoft may as well be chopping their own legs off. It basically cuts off a large segment of the mass market, those on low incomes and children, both of which primarily buy used games.
Zumblakladla
Banned
This is soo stupid, i can't find proper word to describe it.
I'm just hoping MS will change their mind in the meantime, this will make their fans go rage.
I'm just hoping MS will change their mind in the meantime, this will make their fans go rage.
Isn't that what Sony did this gen though encourage third parties to get to the metal of the box without producing good enough tools to do it?
velociraptor
Junior Member
I highly doubt it.
Games on Steam ARE expensive. £30-40 for new releases is fucking insane.
DD prices on the PS3 store are even more crazy. £60 for PS3 downloads.
Fuck DD.
maquiladora
Member
wow - if true
Exactly. PC games are cheaper and have way better sales. If I can't sell games I might no longer enjoy at least I want to pay as little as possible.
I take this with a pinch of salt (same with the Sony one mentioned before) but
If this was true and if the PS4 preventing used games is true then it would spell the end for Non-nintendo consoles. There would be a huge backlash from consumers (obvious reason), Gamestop, GAME, etc since they wouldn't be able to stock used games anymore. While the former means lower than expected sales (since people who don't care will still buy the consoles), the latter could easily make GS, GAME, etc refuse to stock the consoles (and games for the consoles) entirely.
Now that would really help end both Sony and MS' console career.
Still, I'm hoping neither of the rumours like this are true.
If this was true and if the PS4 preventing used games is true then it would spell the end for Non-nintendo consoles. There would be a huge backlash from consumers (obvious reason), Gamestop, GAME, etc since they wouldn't be able to stock used games anymore. While the former means lower than expected sales (since people who don't care will still buy the consoles), the latter could easily make GS, GAME, etc refuse to stock the consoles (and games for the consoles) entirely.
Now that would really help end both Sony and MS' console career.
Still, I'm hoping neither of the rumours like this are true.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
WiiU, WiiU, WiiU.
This is what i'm suspecting too. Seriously, this sounds too dumb to be true.
Nope. Not in the slightest.
ionicbluebird
Member
Sony please don't do this!
We still have the Wii U... right?
awanderingsoul
Member
Can't see Microsoft doing this with one time activation codes and Sony not following suit.
Think we could see this across both consoles. Or at the very least have the system in place for publishers to do so if they wish, the likes of EA and Activision will have wanted the infrastructure there to make this happen.
Think we could see this across both consoles. Or at the very least have the system in place for publishers to do so if they wish, the likes of EA and Activision will have wanted the infrastructure there to make this happen.
The rrp for a PC game isn't £50. You can get the majority if games at launch for £20-£25. Makes the lack of resell value far more reasonable.
Coupled with their diminished list of exclusives, this new xbox is sounding like a gamers worst nightmare.
Wolves Evolve
Member
Yeaaaahhh I don't see this happening. Really. Many people's major contact with games is second hand. Those people buy the systems to play those second hand games. I thoroughly doubt Microsoft's research looks so different to all the other research which says second hand games are a vital purchasing market.
iamshadowlark
Banned
Hmm.
So superDAE or Edge?
Yep. If not, 3rd party pubs will pressure Sony for it.
Opus Angelorum
Member
clay_ghost
Member
Stock holder then?
Sadly, the majority of console demographic will buy it/them regardless of whether this rumor is true or not(hope not). Which is quite sad but out of our hands, mostly. I will be very pissed and disappointed if either MS/Sony go this route though.
WolfForager
Member
Weren't there rumors of Sony going anti used games also this gen? They seemed to have died down with all the recent leaks, but I shall nor forget....
However if MS is the only company to block used games this gen, then PS4 purchase confirmed!
However if MS is the only company to block used games this gen, then PS4 purchase confirmed!
Not sure what you mean. Devs could go low level if they wanted. Or stay high level. Their choice.