I've said this before, but I have to imagine it has something to do with Pitchford and his magician background.
If a coin falls out of your hair in the middle of the trick just pretend nothing happened and move on to the next one.
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EG interview w/ Randy Pitchford - he's at it again
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I've said this before, but I have to imagine it has something to do with Pitchford and his magician background.
If a coin falls out of your hair in the middle of the trick just pretend nothing happened and move on to the next one.
Sorta. I known people that act like this in real life, and they're a pain in the ass to deal with. People who refuse to accept their mistakes aren't usually in the habit of learning from them. And they're often pretty smug about that too.
Brainfreeze
Member
I...uh...what?
How does he....what?!
I guess he never followed up on clarifying that story? If someone like Jim ever gets an interview this needs to be brought up as well.
Triggerhappytel
Member
What the fuck is wrong with him? Is he eight years old?! Why on earth would anyone fabricate this big bullshit story unprompted?!
Diddy Kong
Banned
Why does he speak?
Lalalandia
Member
I didn't intend to turn you into an unofficial Randy spokesman I just find his answers bizarre and don't understand reading them and thinking 'Yeah that answers that then'. He was too vocal right up to the release of the game about how it would be all he promised from day 1 (and that E3 demo) to walk away and say 'It was all Sega's fault'.
Look we all understand how hard it is to look at something you and your team worked on for a few years and go 'Shit it's no good, is it?'. That's human, I'm sure Ed Wood went to his grave believing himself a misunderstood auteur (and you could craft an argument for that) but the general verdict will always be Ed Wood is a bad director. My issue is not with the existence of the E3 build/slice or the promotion of it, my issue is that when 12 weeks out your final build doesn't look like that you need to stop.
In my own career I've had to stand in front of rooms of people and go 'mea culpa' when we were getting ragged on for 3rd party failings but you know what it was our badge on the kit and they were our customers so I ate that shit. Life isn't always fair and we can all think of reasons why action X wasn't our fault, taking responsibility is looking at those reasons and thinking to yourself 'You know what the customer trusted me it's not good enough to say it was Jeff in the mailrooms fault'. The situation didn't end well for us from a business perspective but our approach contained the failure and stopped it from damaging our reputation further. And those who still wanted more details were willing to hear our story and believe the proportion that was our fault because we were up front about it being a failure in the first place.
Karak
Member
He was a magician he magically deleted an entire team.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
I'm as aware and informed as you are, I'm just not a disgruntled fan.
If that disallows my perspective in your eyes, I truly don't mind.
One last point, if this subject was one of rationality rtather than high emotion, I strongly suspect I wouldn't be receiving so much hostility for mildly expressing an opinon.
He does eat a small slice of humble pie somewhere in the interview though:
At least he acknowledges this, that it's unlikely he'll get to work on a big license again. I thought this was an interesting snippet in an entire interview full of smoke, mirrors and denial. That he compares his game to the experimental tracks on the White Album is laughable.
I also love his long Syd Mead rant
"Fuck you and what you think of the game, at least I saw my childhood dream come true"
Also I have to admit this: I have the most morbid curiousity to play through A:CM. I have to play this at some point to see if it really is the disaster people claim it is.
At least he acknowledges this, that it's unlikely he'll get to work on a big license again. I thought this was an interesting snippet in an entire interview full of smoke, mirrors and denial. That he compares his game to the experimental tracks on the White Album is laughable.
I also love his long Syd Mead rant
"Fuck you and what you think of the game, at least I saw my childhood dream come true"
Also I have to admit this: I have the most morbid curiousity to play through A:CM. I have to play this at some point to see if it really is the disaster people claim it is.
Not seeing the hostility. Most all responses to your posts in here have been reasonable and for the sake of discussion.
PC version is a perfectly average FPS, you might actually enjoy it.
Console versions are abominations, don't even bother.
Agreed, though I don't really care about their games and I have nothing against the people working there, but Pitchford is just unbearable and he's the face of the company.
Triggerhappytel
Member
It's merely an average game. Sound effects are good. Level design is generally fine. AI is terrible. Combat is poor and boss battles are fucking awful.
Go into it with the right level of expectation and there's as much merit in it as any average game. But it does hurt as a big fan of the film to see the wasted potential, and the story is insultingly bad. Like, really fucking atrocious.
At this point is it really still a thing? Is the goal trying to get him to admit the game and the demo are different? You won't.
Look, it's clear he's full of it. The demo was misleading and anyone can see that. But he's never going to own up to it and he's never going to apologize.
If you're upset over this enough to boycott his games, then do it. Vote with your dollars and show him that this type of behavior is unacceptable and won't gain him any support. I never really liked his games in the first place, so it's disingenuous for me to say I'm going to boycott him since he never really had my support to begin with, but I suppose I'll be ignoring anything he puts out from here on out consciously. But that's just me.
I have a feeling the general populace will still buy anything Borderlands though, so I don't think it's going to make much of a difference. People just aren't getting upset about it enough for him to change his tune.
Look, it's clear he's full of it. The demo was misleading and anyone can see that. But he's never going to own up to it and he's never going to apologize.
If you're upset over this enough to boycott his games, then do it. Vote with your dollars and show him that this type of behavior is unacceptable and won't gain him any support. I never really liked his games in the first place, so it's disingenuous for me to say I'm going to boycott him since he never really had my support to begin with, but I suppose I'll be ignoring anything he puts out from here on out consciously. But that's just me.
I have a feeling the general populace will still buy anything Borderlands though, so I don't think it's going to make much of a difference. People just aren't getting upset about it enough for him to change his tune.
Dragon1893
Member
This interview is something else. Jesus Christ, what an annoying read.
nuttyevans
Member
i spent £2.99 on Aliens and still feel ripped off. My heart goes out to anyone who spent full price on it.
Wow, how pathetic.
I refuse to believe anyone can be that gullible to buy that story.
MrJohnSherry
Member
So it's confirmed - I am literally the only person on earth who liked A:CM. I completed it on release day in one sitting - and then purchased the season pass :/
EDIT: I played on PC.
EDIT: I played on PC.
Yeah it'd be on pc, it's already on my Steam wishlist. If that thing is ever 5 or so, I'm getting it. Thanks for the impressions, mostly disappointed by the bolded, that they didn't do anything with the amazing universe they were given.
SolidSnakex
Member
What could he possibly say to follow that up? I'd imagine that he hopes no one ever brings that up in an interview.
Corleth the Fey
Member
So Randy seemingly has a psychological issue with telling the truth. You know Randy, you could talk to us about this and we might be able to forgive you.
Still - so far you haven't, and it cost you a sale of the Borderlands Collection at the weekend from me. Now that's the truth.
Still - so far you haven't, and it cost you a sale of the Borderlands Collection at the weekend from me. Now that's the truth.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
I've never been a big borderlands fan but clearly it was a well crafted game that people loved. That's the criteria I'm defining for "good" and I dont think anyone holds CM in as high regard as Blands 1 or 2.
Here I was thinking he sawed them in half
RoadHazard
Gold Member
He's a deeply dishonest man who cares only about money and gives zero shits about game quality or his customers. Fuck him.
What did you like about it?
To me it was a lazy, bog standard FPS that I've played a million times before but with Aliens shoved into it. The level design, enemy design, graphics, pacing, story, script and voice acting were all bottom of the barrel and lazy.
Triggerhappytel
Member
Story spoiler to prepare you for the awfulness if you're interested:
Hicks is alive and Weyland Yutani swapped his hyper-sleep body out for an imposter and then kept him imprisoned on LV-426. He says he "doesn't have time to go into that right now", or something to that effect.
Also, at the beginning of the game,
the Sulaco is back in orbit around LV-426 and it's swarming with eggs because of course it is. One of the marines asks how it got there, and again it's brushed off with a line of dialogue.
Lastly, in the film Bishop implies that the reactor detonating will completely annihilate Hadley's Hope, but in the game you run around a lot of locations from the film, damaged but mostly intact. There are outdoor areas that have a lot of melted metal structures, but nothing that looks like a nuke went off in the middle of a small colony. It all just feels phoney and insincere.
The whole thing is just embarrassingly bad, and a re-tread of the beats from Aliens. They don't even pay homage properly.
wow that's pretty bonkers
Sadly this is so true. He doesn't even give a damn about what he says because he knows people will buy borderlands anyway. It's like he thinks he is untouchable now and it's depressing because he basically is.
Publicity. He gets people talking, like we are now.
As was said before, interviewers should just stop pursuing him. These questions are a lot more direct than others I've seen, and he was still eluding with a bunch of nonsense and distracting answers that were completely irrelevant to the questions being asked.
Yeah, he is somehow taking entire responsibility for the final product, without taking any responsibility for the final product.
Schroedinger's Responsibility
MrJohnSherry
Member
Well it definitely wasn't the story, that was laughable. The gunplay was really good though in my opinion, and I think Gearbox did a good job on the universe as a whole. It is far from perfect, but I think it is an enjoyable experience.
That doesn't make the criticism less valid, costumers don't get emotional just "because". Pathological lying, obnoxious attitude, and tone deft answers to criticism foster the feeling this guy doesn't actually respect costumers.
Besides understanding the process is cool and all, at the end it only matters what you deliver to costumer. I can go on and on with my costumers about the cool framework we built to deliver solutions... ya know what, they give ZERO shits about it (as the should), they hiring us to develop solution not to explain-justify our process.
Side node: if you working on a team pretty shitty to refer to your work as I, even if you the president, very unprofessional.
They did an ok job with re creating the Aliens universe but then Creative Assembly came along with Alien Isolation to show them how to really use the license properly. Randy brags about how he got to work with all the original assets yet churned out crap that kinda resembled Aliens, Creative Assembly lovingly created a whole new space station in the Alien art style and didn't need to brag about it.
MrJohnSherry
Member
I haven't played Isolation yet, I bought it, played about 30 minutes of it, got chased by the Xeno, pooped my pants and will never turn it back on! I don't deal well with games like that haha.
I have watched streams and videos of it though, and alot of people say while it is a great game, it does drag on a bit for what it is. I don't know how true that is though.
JigglesBunny
Banned
My God, I feel like an absolutely terrible person as I should never wish or hope for such a thing but... damn I hope this guy gets the hell out of this company.
What a degenerate, he is either the most dense motherfucker on the planet or so far up his own ass, he doesn't remember what fresh air smells like.
You are an asshat, Randy. You make shit games. You are a pathological liar and bullshitter and somebody should have made sure you were permanently on a gag order. Every time you open your mouth, I become more and more disgusted that you hold such a high position of power in your studio.
Stop. Talking. Randy.
Just shut the hell up.
And don't compare your fuck-pile games and studio to the Beatles. Don't even think about it.
What a degenerate, he is either the most dense motherfucker on the planet or so far up his own ass, he doesn't remember what fresh air smells like.
You are an asshat, Randy. You make shit games. You are a pathological liar and bullshitter and somebody should have made sure you were permanently on a gag order. Every time you open your mouth, I become more and more disgusted that you hold such a high position of power in your studio.
Stop. Talking. Randy.
Just shut the hell up.
And don't compare your fuck-pile games and studio to the Beatles. Don't even think about it.
He's the co-founder, CEO, and president of Gearbox, so...
BumblebeeCody
Member
Ready yer Randy Pitchforks!
Personally I have no issues with him. He's a big name at GearBox and he's not one To throw his development team under the bus. I have give him credit for still answering what are quite clearly questions that make him look bad.
VideoGameDrama.
Personally I have no issues with him. He's a big name at GearBox and he's not one To throw his development team under the bus. I have give him credit for still answering what are quite clearly questions that make him look bad.
VideoGameDrama.
Oh yeh it's definitely way too long for the kind of game it is, could have been half the length and still be as effective. I've not played all the way through myself but my friend clocked in something like 15 hours! Some really cool set pieces in the later game that are worth seeing. Just overall a better use of the Alien license than gunning down waves of poorly animated xenomorphs throwing themselves at you XD
Lalalandia
Member
I think this is where a lot of the divide comes in between those who say it was fine and those of us who are disappointed with it. The bits that most folks point to as good are things that come from the Aliens universe itself i.e. the sounds, the locations, the designs and the bits that are ropey the dialogue, the upgrade system (that never grants you 99 pulse rifle rounds as in the film), new Xeno types and the animations etc all came from Gearbox. I don't give them any credit for the former as that is inherent to the licence and assign them most of the blame for the latter.
What? Saying "I'm not at liberty to speak about that" would have been light years better than what he ended up going with. He doesn't get credit for merely responding to a question, when the answer he gave was grossly disingenuous.
You are wrong imo. I believe I am legitimately neutral. I've never played the game and I actually like borderlands 2/ps (never got into 1). I think he sounds like a monkey and it's obvious the game took a big hit. I don't understand how someone can say "nothing can change their minds" all people want is for the man to own up to the shit and not insult their intelligence. That's really not asking for much.
GameAddict411
Member
he would directly throw that as subjective. At least the graphics questions can't be argued otherwise. they are 100% true. He still managed to deny that which is laughable to be honest. I have no respect for this guy at all.
SuperDowns
Banned
Wow, welp I'm no longer interested in this guy's games. There are a lot of options, my friend. And I don't need Borderlands.
Battlesmurf
Member
I wonder how this would have performed if the Steam refunds thing was around then.