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Extreme Tech: 360 DVD, HD DVD playback still seriously flawed

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MikeB said:
I have written many technical articles and discussed many issues with hardware designers and programmers, that's where my interests for the PS3 stems from. For example I never owned any of the home consoles of the previous generation. I love to explore how operating systems function, but game engines and gaming hardware have become ever more complex, advanced, multi-functional and thus interesting as well for me.

What?

Gotta love his sig too:

"Don't believe M$ funded hype (multiplatform game, exclusive games can be pushed much harder, but creating games specifically for a new platform takes time):

In reply of Epic's hyped wild claims, Heavenly Sword dev: "I wonder what's so impressive in GOW that RSX could not do." and "once devs will start to use SPUs to speed up RSX things will start to be even more interesting"

Mark Rein (2007)=> PS3 UT3 Graphics Better Than Gears Of War and UT3 runs better on PS3 than Gears on 360"

Yeesh.

MikeB said:
I am Mike Bouma, almost 31 years old, my girlfriend is 21 and studies pharmacy, I'm a Physical Therapist as well as former tech writer & reporter, editor at OSNews.com and some other tech related websites. I have been part of developer consortiums and have been an advisor for various smaller and larger tech companies. I do not work for Sony, nor IBM, but I have been well informed by some of their best technical specialists.

Man this guy is a riot.
 

MikeB

Banned
@ Overheat

PSN network is a joke

What XBox live game is better than either Warhawk or Super Stardust HD (I'm in the top 0.1% best ranked)?

Seriously, IMO Resistance: Fall of Man is better than any XBox 360 launch games. And Uncharted and R&C are two of the most technically impressive games currently available. Developing game engines from scratch (White Engine) or legacy game enignes fully adapted (Insomniac's engine) for for this kick-ass architecture just takes time and effort. But bring on Killzone 2! ;-)

Did you know the XBox 360 had a full year headstart (or 1 year and five months for much of the world)?
 

OverHeat

« generous god »
MikeB said:
@ Overheat



What XBox live game is better than either Warhawk or Super Stardust HD (I'm in the top 0.1% best ranked)?

Seriously, IMO Resistance: Fall of Man is better than any XBox 360 launch games. And Uncharted and R&C are two of the most technically impressive games currently available. Developing game engines from scratch (White Engine) or legacy game enignes fully adapted (Insomniac's engine) for for this kick-ass architecture just takes time and effort. But bring on Killzone 2! ;-)

Did you know the XBox 360 had a full year headstart (or 1 year and five months for much of the world)?

Guess you did not get my point.......I do not believe anything I wrote, except the part about the Wii looking bad on on my SXRD :lol
 

BigBoss

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MikeB said:
@ Overheat



What XBox live game is better than either Warhawk or Super Stardust HD (I'm in the top 0.1% best ranked)?

Seriously, IMO Resistance: Fall of Man is better than any XBox 360 launch games. And Uncharted and R&C are two of the most technically impressive games currently available. Developing game engines from scratch (White Engine) or legacy game enignes fully adapted (Insomniac's engine) for for this kick-ass architecture just takes time and effort. But bring on Killzone 2! ;-)

Did you know the XBox 360 had a full year headstart (or 1 year and five months for much of the world)?

You should really stop because that hole your digging is getting mighty deep.
 

Walshicus

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Are you drunk? I refuse to believe an apparant Amiga fan could ever post a thread like this in a serious and sober frame of mind.
 

Tk0n

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MikeB said:
@ Overheat

Seriously, IMO Resistance: Fall of Man is better than any XBox 360 launch games.
Did you know the XBox 360 had a full year headstart (or 1 year and five months for much of the world)?


:D

did you know that resistance had a full year headstart?
 
MikeB said:
@ Overheat

What XBox live game is better than either Warhawk or Super Stardust HD (I'm in the top 0.1% best ranked)?

Seriously, IMO Resistance: Fall of Man is better than any XBox 360 launch games. And Uncharted and R&C are two of the most technically impressive games currently available. Developing game engines from scratch (White Engine) or legacy game enignes fully adapted (Insomniac's engine) for for this kick-ass architecture just takes time and effort. But bring on Killzone 2! ;-)

Did you know the XBox 360 had a full year headstart (or 1 year and five months for much of the world)?

And notice how the PS3's visually stunning titles, like Unchartered, R&C and Heavenly Sword are incredibly short? And they aren't the most technically impressive games currently available: there are PC games that look better. So if you are fighting for a slight edge in second place, well, good for you.

Why should anyone care how big a headstart the 360 got? That was all time Sony could have used to develop a kickass catalog at launch. The 360's launch was arguably better than the PS3's.
 

Slavik81

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I have to say, this is looking pretty pathetic.

IronicallyTwisted said:
And notice how the PS3's visually stunning titles, like Unchartered, R&C and Heavenly Sword are incredibly short?
That's more or less true for any of the technically impressive PS3/360 games.
 

chris0701

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Hammer24 said:
He compared pictures of 360 480p DVD via component to PS3 1080 BR via HDMI to make the 360 playback look bad. And thats how he always does it, just check his post history.
It has nothing to do with the article, that might be right or wrong I don´t care. But he intentionally making something look bad, thats what bothers me.

The fuuny logic he used in the thread called "PS3 games in SPE usage":

"If the (insert 3rd party games name here) dev/PR did not tell how many SPEs they used in their project,I would think they totally did not use it"
 

MikeB

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mr_bishiuk said:
He then posts a picture of His 360 about to get shipped back to prove he had one, I mean come on....

No I just pasted the wrong image, no big deal actually if you look at the PS3 DVD pic. I am like an open book, no secrets, no anonymous nicknames (like Microsoft Exec which posted here. ;-))

This is me demonstrating an operating system for 3SAT/ZDF TV program:

Pic30.jpg


I am not afraid of Microsoft or XBox 360 fanboys. They have screwed my family with their IMO far below standard quality products and customer support and I will criticize them whenever I feel it's fair.
 

chris0701

Member
MikeB said:
@ Overheat



What XBox live game is better than either Warhawk or Super Stardust HD (I'm in the top 0.1% best ranked)?

Seriously, IMO Resistance: Fall of Man is better than any XBox 360 launch games. And Uncharted and R&C are two of the most technically impressive games currently available. Developing game engines from scratch (White Engine) or legacy game enignes fully adapted (Insomniac's engine) for for this kick-ass architecture just takes time and effort. But bring on Killzone 2! ;-)

Did you know the XBox 360 had a full year headstart (or 1 year and five months for much of the world)?

I lol'ed.

Resistance started its development before E3'05,we even know developers had PS3 devkit before 2005 spring.

You called it yourself "a technology ..." again.
 
Oh Lord you are an insufferable twit.
It seems every time you get into an argument you feel the need to post some pictures, mention some event where you "spoke with developers", brag about your girlfriend, or throw out some other achievement of yours that has little to no meaning to the current discussion.
 

Walshicus

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MikeB said:
This is me demonstrating an operating system for 3SAT/ZDF TV program:
Mate... nobody here gives a shit.


I am not afraid of Microsoft or XBox 360 fanboys. They have screwed my family with their IMO far below standard quality products and customer support and I will criticize them whenever I feel it's fair.
Yeah well they raped my village and pillaged my wife but you don't see me yapping on about it.
 

MikeB

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chris0701 said:
I lol'ed.

Resistance started its development before E3'05,we even know developers had PS3 devkit before 2005 spring.

You called it yourself "a technology ..." again.

Actually mature enough PS3 dev kits weren't available until a few months before launch. It's a radically different architecture, so no surprises.
 

MikeB

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Sir Fragula said:
Mate... nobody gives a shit.

Some seem to do, else why would they resort to personal attacks instead of staying on topic?

At least you know who you are talking to, I'll eat the XBox 360 fanboys raw for breakfast on technical matters. ;-)
 

Recoil

Member
Slavik81 said:
That's more or less true for any of the technically impressive PS3/360 games.

Mass Effect?

Bioshock was also pretty long, wasn't it? (Yeah, I haven't played though it yet, so sue me)

Halo, same thing -- it's not stupidly long, but for the length, there is an amazing amount of content/depth and work put into it.
 

chris0701

Member
MikeB said:
Actually mature enough PS3 dev kits weren't available until a few months before launch. It's a radically different architecture, so no surprises.

We have seen an awesome real-time MGS4 demo at TGS05.

I think you do not want to tell everybody:

"as devkit matures..the quality went ..."
 

MikeB

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PepsimanVsJoe said:
Are you reading the thread that post is from? It's a riot.

Yes it was, I had hoped for some quality feedback and counter claims, instead it resorted to a childish fanboy fight.

Have you read the actual comparison?
 

rage1973

Member
MikeB said:
Some seem to do, else why would they resort to personal attacks instead of staying on topic?

At least you know who you are talking to, I'll eat the XBox 360 fanboys raw for breakfast on technical matters. ;-)
Do us all a favor and stop posting your drivel.
 

pswii60

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Hammer24 said:
He compared pictures of 360 480p DVD via component to PS3 1080 BR via HDMI to make the 360 playback look bad. And thats how he always does it, just check his post history.
It has nothing to do with the article, that might be right or wrong I don´t care. But he intentionally making something look bad, thats what bothers me.

Yes, he did this exact same thing with the exact same pictures in a thread that was locked back in September

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7806206&postcount=39


Unfortuanately the original post in that thread has been deleted since it was locked, probably due to the embarrasment of MikeB himself. However, it made many incorrect technical arguments which make me wonder if MikeB really knows anything at all.
 

MikeB

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mr_bishiuk said:
Cool! how many time does he mention how great he is?

Actually I can be quite humble, but not when dealing with anonymous fanboys.

Personally I would have preferred people to stay polite and on topic. Who I am should be of less relevance than my writings. Actually I am quite pissed this topic like others cannot be discussed without resorting to cheapshots and kinds of personal attacks.
 

Slavik81

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Slavik81 said:
I have to say, this is looking pretty pathetic.
MikeB said:
No I just pasted the wrong image, no big deal actually if you look at the PS3 DVD pic. I am like an open book, no secrets, no anonymous nicknames (like Microsoft Exec which posted here. ;-))

This is me demonstrating an operating system for 3SAT/ZDF TV program:
:lol

Did I say pathetic? I meant 'awesome'.
 
MikeB said:
Conclusion the PS3 wins this one hands-down. Especially considering most Xbox games offer little replay value.

Wait what?

MikeB said:
For example I never owned any of the home consoles of the previous generation.

So MikeB is just some shitty joke character. Boy what a waste of credentials.
It's pretty obvious this guy doesn't care if people take him seriously or not. Personally I don't think he's worth the trouble. Though it's incredibly scary how much work he puts into this.
 

pswii60

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MikeB said:
Actually I can be quite humble, but not when dealing with anonymous fanboys.

Personally I would have prefer people to stay polite and on topic. Who I am should be of less relevance than my writings. Actually I am quite pissed this topic like others cannot be discussed without resorting to cheapshots and kinds of personal attacks.

I think you were the one that initially got personal, when you started talking about how fantastic you are, then you gave everyone a chance to jump on you.

Also, is everyone who disagrees with you an 'anonymous fanboy'? Because many people who are disagreeing with you in this thread are multi-console owners.
 

MikeB

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pswii60 said:
Yes, he did this exact same thing with the exact same pictures in a thread that was locked back in September

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7806206&postcount=39


Unfortuanately the original post in that thread has been deleted since it was locked, probably due to the embarrasment of MikeB himself. However, it made many incorrect technical arguments which make me wonder if MikeB really knows anything at all.

Oh, I didn't know it was deleted. It was quite in depth and extensive comparing hardware failures, media playback quality and hardware feature set and specs (everthing except from a game comparison, as taste differs and thus fully subjective). I still have a copy though if you're interested (PM me).
 

pswii60

Member
MikeB said:
Oh, I didn't know it was deleted. It was quite in depth and extensive comparing hardware failures, media playback quality and hardware feature set and specs (everthing expect from a game comparison, as taste differs and thus fully subjective). I still have a copy though if you're interested (PM me).

Why don't you just post the original article here for everyone to see. And don't forget to leave out this bit:

Conclusion the PS3 wins this one hands-down. Especially considering most Xbox games offer little replay value.

Although many parts of that original post are quoted in the thread (including that):

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=7806206
 

MikeB

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PepsimanVsJoe said:
Wait what?



So MikeB is just some shitty joke character. Boy what a waste of credentials.
It's pretty obvious this guy doesn't care if people take him seriously or not. Personally I don't think he's worth the trouble.

The first was a comment with regard to backwards compatibility. The PS3 at the won this hands down, more games and better games. Although I never owned a PS2 I now own many PS2 games, my favourite being God of War 2.

I just said that IMO games like Halo aren't very interested to people if they already own Halo 3.
 

xbhaskarx

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"Conclusion the PS3 wins this one hands-down. Especially considering most Xbox games offer little replay value."

:lol
Holy sh*t.
 

OverHeat

« generous god »
MikeB said:
The first was a comment with regard to backwards compatibility. The PS3 at the won this hands down, more games and better games. Although I never owned a PS2 I now own many PS2 games, my favourite being God of War 2.

I just said that IMO games like Halo aren't very interested to people if they already own Halo 3.

But what about 40 GB PS3?....you cannot play PS2 games on it.
I got a launch 60 GB by the way.
 
MikeB said:
Actually I can be quite humble, but not when dealing with anonymous fanboys.

Personally I would have prefer people to stay polite and on topic. Who I am should be of less relevance than my writings. Actually I am quite pissed this topic like others cannot be discussed without resorting to cheapshots and kinds of personal attacks.

Why does that always seem to happen only to threads you post in? Imagine the odds. :lol:
 

pswii60

Member
MikeB said:
The first was a comment with regard to backwards compatibility. The PS3 at the won this hands down, more games and better games. Although I never owned a PS2 I now own many PS2 games, my favourite being God of War 2.

So it's fine to troll a last gen system? Last gen I found JSRF, Ninja Gaiden, Panzer Dragoon, KOTOR, Halo, Halo 2, GTA, and a gazillion others to offer just as much replay value as any of my PS2 games. So your argument is still rediculous
 

OverHeat

« generous god »
pswii60 said:
So it's fine to troll a last gen system? Last gen I found JSRF, Ninja Gaiden, Panzer Dragoon, KOTOR, Halo, Halo 2, GTA, and a gazillion others to offer just as much replay value as any of my PS2 games. So your argument is still rediculous
I like your style.
 

Slavik81

Member
OverHeat said:
But what about 40 GB PS3?....you cannot play PS2 games on it.
I got a launch 60 GB by the way.
The 40GB PS3 wasn't out when he posted that. Back in September, I don't think we knew about it...
 
Like I said you're all wasting your time. All he cares about is attention and he'll do anything to get it.
It's pretty damn pathetic but it seems to be working for him so whatever...
 
MikeB said:
The first was a comment with regard to backwards compatibility. The PS3 at the won this hands down, more games and better games. Although I never owned a PS2 I now own many PS2 games, my favourite being God of War 2.

I just said that IMO games like Halo aren't very interested to people if they already own Halo 3.
For a former editor you sure make a shitload of spelling and grammar errors. I call bullshit.
 

Sean

Banned
MikeB said:
Great to see the PS2 still has a future. The PS2 has globally been outselling the XBox 360 for every month since the XBox 360 release. IMO a great low budget option for consumers as the PS2 offers a huge game libary with many of the games being available at budget prices.

MikeB said:
The PS3 is usually more quiet, but especially if you insert a disc. With the XBox 360 you will surely wake up people sleeping in the same room, however the PS3's Blu-Ray drive is super silent.

MikeB said:
This may be due to the rather huge external transformator the XBox 360 comes supplied with. Cooling should be easier this way compared to this being neatly intergrated into the device like is done with the PS3.

MikeB said:
Amazing how much can go wrong with XBox 360 hardware...

MikeB said:
Very impressive launch figures! Christmas 2007 should be very interesting with Killzone with its fully destructable environments, PS3 Home becoming available and Halo 3 to be released for the XBox 360.

For me personally such a price difference was not worth the wait though, I have too much fun playing Resistance: Fall of Man, Lemmings and Motorstorm already! And there's already enough software available for me to entertain myself until the release of Heavenly Sword, Lair, LittleBigPlanet, Ninja Gaiden Sigma and of course Killzone 2! I guess the online mult-player features of Motorstorm and Resistance will last me for a very long time to come. Thanks Sony! :D

....
 

MikeB

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TheRipDizz said:
Why does that always seem to happen only to threads you post in? Imagine the odds. :lol:

I have actively debunked a lot of misinformative FUD regarding the PS3 on various forums. For instance when there were claims with regard to the PS3 burning down houses, Blu-Ray being too slow, Cell is flawed, Gears cannot be done on PS3, etc. I probably made some XBox 360 fan enemies, but I don't care about that.

I know someone who's nicknamed Hammer, but I am not sure if this is the same guy.
 
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