EvilKatarn
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I get that. The comment just seemed to be aimed at the wrong side.The aim is to point out the perceived hypocrisy at those FOR the removal of the mini-game who would also be against the removal of S-Ranked homosexual pairings.
I get that. The comment just seemed to be aimed at the wrong side.The aim is to point out the perceived hypocrisy at those FOR the removal of the mini-game who would also be against the removal of S-Ranked homosexual pairings.
...I'm sorry man, but your post 100% made it sound like you were equivocating a petting minigame with gay marriage. Saying you had a shiteating grin when people suddenly get upset about something being removed makes it super sound like you think it's funny when people get upset when gay marriage is removed but they don't get angry/don't get care when a silly petting minigame is removed.
Even if this does turn out to be true, I don't think its the appropriate kind of think to take cheap shots over.
Why would people who are disappointed at equal opportunity fanservice being cut have a 'shit eating grin' about the removal of gay marriages?
If true, one is far far far (...) far worst than the other. So really one shouldn't be happy about it even to prove a point.Kind of apples and oranges in this situation, don't you think?
Europe had the Game Corner removed from the Pokemon series
But I still don't think the same sex marriage thing is real.
"I'm sure our fans will understand" and "protect the younger audience" just sounds fake PR made to ride the coattails of this announcement.
There's no way NoE would internally refer to any removal of LGBT content as "protecting the younger audience". They'd call it something like "avoiding unnecessary controversy". They'd view it in terms of business, not morals. So I'm not buying it either.
I didn't either until that Steven universe story was posted. Now I'm worry.I don't buy it either. I find it very suspicious
Really curious to see if the "it's localization, not censorship" argument still holds for some if the removal of gay marriage ends up being true.
I was going through the thread on this same matter on Serenes Forest and someone posted a link to an alarming reddit's thread.
The thread talks about how an Italian FE fans site had the news on the latest two announcements before they happened, apparently a relevant Italian gaming news site had leaked informations about the games and also leaked a very alarming e-mail from Nintendo of Italy regarding European localization.
Before proceeding I'll remind everyone to take this with a grain of salt.
The e-mail says the European version of the game will not only be more heavily modified than the American version but also that same-sex marriage will be removed.
I read the e-mail and skimmed through the translation and can confirm that at least the bolded parts of the translation match the content of the e-mail, I'll check it all soon.
Here's the link to the reddit's thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/fireemblem/comments/42xhlw/corrins_italian_name_different_censorship_for/
Not for me. Some localisation changes are appropriate, some aren't. Removing a slightly creepy LovePlus-esque mini game is an understandable change. I don't think that type of mini game belongs in Fire Emblem. Removing any LGBT content is a completely different decision and one that I don't think is appropriate. There is nothing unpleasant or strange about gay relationships whereas the petting is just odd and nonsensical.
I don't believe that NoE is censoring the LGBT aspects, though.
No. They were in there.Which is why I have a 0 tolerance policy for any sort of censorship. I don't care if its head-patting or LGBT relationships, the fact that people willingly allow companies to tell you what you can and cannot see should be left in our hands, not theirs.
And correct me if I am wrong but wasn't the LGBT relationships added only for the US version of the game? The Japanese version didn't even have them correct?
And to make it easy, just have an awkward S-class jump for convos that didn't seem to go there but suddenly turn into a proposal with cutscene
So the solution to the awkward dialogue is to take out marriage.Literally all S rank conversations are like that*, because it's possible you're doing the C through A rank dialogue with a potential marriage partner after one of them is already married. (Unless that was the joke?).
*Okay not quiet literally all: Tharja was an exception in Awakening with Avatar.
The aim is to point out the perceived hypocrisy at those FOR the removal of the mini-game who would also be against the removal of S-Ranked homosexual pairings.
Really curious to see if the "it's localization, not censorship" argument still holds for some if the removal of gay marriage ends up being true.
Which is why I have a 0 tolerance policy for any sort of censorship. I don't care if its head-patting or LGBT relationships, the fact that people willingly allow companies to tell you what you can and cannot see should be left in our hands, not theirs.
And correct me if I am wrong but wasn't the LGBT relationships added only for the US version of the game? The Japanese version didn't even have them correct?
It's understandable to worry, but I'm not sure Fire Emblem is sold as a game for all ages in Europe. It's more likely to be rated for Teens, and if so it would be a different situation I think.I didn't either until that Steven universe story was posted. Now I'm worry.
Or maybe he's just saying that he doesn't support that and that he thinks consumers shouldn't.So you're saying the company that makes the product has no right to change it?
Hahahah you're right! but I think USUALLY there is some kinda sexual tension lead-up before then. But you can BS on s-rank anyhow.Literally all S rank conversations are like that*, because it's possible you're doing the C through A rank dialogue with a potential marriage partner after one of them is already married. (Unless that was the joke?).
*Okay not quiet literally all: Tharja was an exception in Awakening with Avatar.
So the solution to the awkward dialogue is to take out marriage.
It's understandable to worry, but I'm not sure Fire Emblem is sold as a game for all ages in Europe. It's more likely to be rated for Teens, and if so it would be a different situation I think.
Are there any cases of NoE removing content from games rated for Teens?
I don't believe that NoE is censoring the LGBT aspects, though.
Isn't Malig Knight a word play on "malignant" like a cancer? c
I don't know about the stock I'd put into the homosexual content being cut though.
They should add more in if anything! (And to make it easy, just have an awkward S-class jump for convos that didn't seem to go there but suddenly turn into a proposal with cutscene )
I'm skeptical about this supposed email.
It's different in that NoE wouldn't have to restrain as much as Cartoon Network UK, because teens are an older audience. But I don't know much about ratings in Europe, so I can only speculate.Why is it a different situation? Are you saying gay couples are harmful for younger children?
It should be noted that Europe is mostly made up of countries where gay marriage is not allowed. .
It's different in that NoE wouldn't have to restrain as much as Cartoon Network UK, because teens are an older audience. But I don't know much about ratings in Europe, so I can only speculate.
LMAO at your second question
It should be noted that Europe is mostly made up of countries where gay marriage is not allowed. The big Catholic country exception for a very long time is Spain, believe it or not, so I'm not surprised at that Italian email if true. Australia doesn't have it either.
Are you still happy first page? What a twist.
This is not an area I can claim expertise on, but Nirolak had pointed this out to me as something that now is potentially even more relevant in regards to Cartoon Network UK:
Steven Universe censorship undermines Cartoon Network's LGBTQ progress
A spokesperson for the network also pointed out that Cartoon Network UK had censored a heterosexual kiss between two human characters in the episode Island Adventure as well. So it appears it’s physical intimacy between two people that sets off the censors, rather than the possibility that those people are the same gender.
Which is an opinion that annoys me, quite frankly. The line isn't "opposed to any localization" vs "supportive of all localization", its "opposed to any localization" vs "amenable to localization".
Its not inconsistent for me to be okay with the removal of this minigame and still think that the adjustments in Italy are also the wrong thing to do. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should
Thank god.
That shit was creepy.
Which is an opinion that annoys me, quite frankly. The line isn't "opposed to any localization" vs "supportive of all localization", its "opposed to any localization" vs "amenable to localization".
Its not inconsistent for me to be okay with the removal of this minigame and still think that the adjustments in Italy are also the wrong thing to do. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should
Of course that's censorship, silly.Really curious to see if the "it's localization, not censorship" argument still holds for some if the removal of gay marriage ends up being true.
Really curious to see if the "it's localization, not censorship" argument still holds for some if the removal of gay marriage ends up being true.
Also, fuck off with calling it a molestation game, I hope you don't let your kids have access to pokemon amie. That actually really irritated me.
Yeah I'm all for not censoring things but this feature brought nothing to the game. If we want games and anime to be taken seriously on a global level, Japan has to cut out fan service and pervy creepiness in general.
pretty sure petting a fictional animal is decidedly less creepy than petting what looks to be an underage kid
I would pet a Machamp with the swiftness
Come on. No one in their right mind would argue that they're one and the same (the removal of drugging/petting vs. the removal of same-sex partnerships).
The removal of same-sex pairings is absolutely, without question, wrong. It's so wrong and offensively so that I truly have a hard time believing that rumor is true. Truly inconceivable to me.
Edit: And, I was right. It was just debunked.
I think you need to recheck the definition of that word.pretty sure petting a fictional animal is decidedly less creepy than petting what looks to be an underage kid
I would pet a Machamp with the swiftness
So happy it has been confirmed fake :')
.So happy it has been confirmed fake :')
So happy it has been confirmed fake :')
Let me answer you with my post from the other thread:Really curious to see if the "it's localization, not censorship" argument still holds for some if the removal of gay marriage ends up being true.
So....that makes it molestation? It just seems like a rather extreme term to use to describe this mini game.
I think you need to recheck the definition of that word.
So happy it has been confirmed fake :')