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First Tech Info On Wii U/Controller, Wont Scale Wii Games, Singletouch, Same Room Use
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SolidSnakex
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Totobeni said:
They're still targeting the casual consumer, so i'd say $300 would be the peak price. You can't go to $400 and attract those users.
H_Prestige said:
I wonder if it's the drive as much as anything. They made a big deal about the "custom drive that can play tiny GC discs and Wii discs" with the Wii, maybe they thought it wasn't worth the R&D costs to develop a Blu-Ray (or whatever) compatible drive that did the same.
Also, you know, the space that 4 GC ports and memory card slots takes up when trying to fit an HD console inside.
No multi-touch?
What a joke. The touchscreen is going to end up being nothing more than a glorified inventory or map for most games if it can't support multi-touch. Not having multi-touch significantly reduces the gameplay possibilities.
Come on Nintendo, why do you think all the phones and tablets support it?
What a joke. The touchscreen is going to end up being nothing more than a glorified inventory or map for most games if it can't support multi-touch. Not having multi-touch significantly reduces the gameplay possibilities.
Come on Nintendo, why do you think all the phones and tablets support it?
Regarding the Wii U one controller only.
I'm personally thinking that it's going to be expensive first off.
So they may very well be de-emphasizing the controller to make sure that us cheapskate Wii'ers can keep our stuff. I will admit that it's odd for the marketing to address one controller, but I would find it a hundred times odder that it only supports one since that would limit the potential substantial...unless the focus is again on online multiplayer where it won't matter.
I'm personally thinking that it's going to be expensive first off.
So they may very well be de-emphasizing the controller to make sure that us cheapskate Wii'ers can keep our stuff. I will admit that it's odd for the marketing to address one controller, but I would find it a hundred times odder that it only supports one since that would limit the potential substantial...unless the focus is again on online multiplayer where it won't matter.
DefectiveReject
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What time.is the Nintendo round table??
I know it has other inputs, but having a touch screen and not have it multi-touch is ridiculous when every other touch screen device on the market supports it.Vinci said:
They've radically limited the possibilities of the touch screen. How anyone can paint that as a good thing I have no idea.
What seems odd is how EA was pimping the ability to call plays on the screen controller. If the system only recognizes one of the big screen controllers what the hell good is it for local multiplayer Madden? Seems only fair that both players should be able to pick their plays with a screen controller.
saunderez said:
Never painted it as a good thing. I painted it as a negligible thing.
The M.O.B said:I am more disappointed about the range of the U rather than the only 1 controller. My consoles are all in the living room but I usually play my handhelds in bed which is a good 2 rooms from my consoles.
Get one for your bedroom. Don't even need a TV.
zomgbbqftw
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reposting for the new page:
I haven't got this officially yet, but iDensity is Blu-ray in all but name. Nintendo didn't want to pay extra licence fees on top of the already hefty patent licensing costs for blue-laser tech so they went and got a variant of Blu-ray that can be made in a regular BD-ROM press and uses the same blue-violet laser diode. This has the added bonus of keeping disc pressing costs down, the ability to source drives from a host of Taiwanese manufacturers, and general maturity of Blu-ray as a high density format makes it relatively cheap ($30 for a read only drive with silencing).
My source put it into context, he said it was like GD-ROM to CD-ROM, so this will not insulate Nintendo from disc based piracy if their console gets hacked for it. If any decent homebrew turns up, it should play Blu-ray movies as well.
I haven't got this officially yet, but iDensity is Blu-ray in all but name. Nintendo didn't want to pay extra licence fees on top of the already hefty patent licensing costs for blue-laser tech so they went and got a variant of Blu-ray that can be made in a regular BD-ROM press and uses the same blue-violet laser diode. This has the added bonus of keeping disc pressing costs down, the ability to source drives from a host of Taiwanese manufacturers, and general maturity of Blu-ray as a high density format makes it relatively cheap ($30 for a read only drive with silencing).
My source put it into context, he said it was like GD-ROM to CD-ROM, so this will not insulate Nintendo from disc based piracy if their console gets hacked for it. If any decent homebrew turns up, it should play Blu-ray movies as well.
SolidSnakex
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Tron 2.0 said:
The 3DS should be $200 by the time that this is released, so that would be a $100 price gap. Reggie's comments on Game Trailers are the only thing that make me question a $300 price. Geoff was asking him if it would be priced like the PS3 and 360 and Reggie started talking about the "value" that you'd be getting. He did say that it would be competitive though.
BocoDragon
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Sweet... Generic off-brand blu-ray.zomgbbqftw said:
H_Prestige
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This is so ridiculous.zomgbbqftw said:
AceBandage
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H_Prestige said:
What is?
This is exactly what they did with GC and Wii.
Graphics Horse
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Does the controller have its own I/R pointing camera? I couldn't see it mentioned but you can see a little black rectangle on the top end in some of the multiplayer demos.
Come to think of it, it would need that to calibrate its relative position to the TV for A/R stuff.
:lol, I did wonder.
Come to think of it, it would need that to calibrate its relative position to the TV for A/R stuff.
adg1034 said:
:lol, I did wonder.
H_Prestige
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No, just the Wii. And it was pretty dumb there too.AceBandage said:
You lose nothing by having BD playback on the Wii U. It costs you nothing extra as you're already paying for the drive when you buy the system.
And Nintendo can't use the "it's a games machine, who cares about movies" excuse. They offer Netflix now for movie fans.
CoffeeJanitor
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3DS is $250. All things considered, $350 or $400 seems about right for current hubris filled NintendoSolidSnakex said:
zomgbbqftw
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Matt said:
Is it illegal to rip on Kotaku these days?
It'll be a hundred dollars less by the time Wii U comes out. I'll be shocked if 3DS is not priced dropped by end of year.Tron 2.0 said:
As an aside, I like that one of the control schemes had a stylus.
Not a handheld. It is an extension of the console that blesses you with the ability to play games while the Missus is watch Bachelorette.The M.O.B said:I am more disappointed about the range of the U rather than the only 1 controller. My consoles are all in the living room but I usually play my handhelds in bed which is a good 2 rooms from my consoles.
It's all about perspective.
ThanksVision
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Can someone explain something to me, I'm not as well versed in this kinda tech.
So the Wii U console will be plugged into the TV, and the signals and displays will be wirelessly transferred to the controller? So does that mean both the console and the handheld controller contain the same processor and tech inside?
Thanks to whoever answers...
So the Wii U console will be plugged into the TV, and the signals and displays will be wirelessly transferred to the controller? So does that mean both the console and the handheld controller contain the same processor and tech inside?
Thanks to whoever answers...
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
H_Prestige said:
Nintendo would have to give a small percentage of each Wii U sale to Sony. Think about it.
AvidNobody said:
The controller probably is not actually doing any computation... it's just a videostream from the console.
H_Prestige
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Nintendo has to pay that. It's just silly penny pinching.Matt said:
H_Prestige
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So what?BocoDragon said:
GoldenEye 007
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The controller has no processing inside it as far as rendering games is concerned. Nintendo is streaming the signal from the console wirelessly and apparently without noticeable latency to the controller.AvidNobody said:
The controller is mostly just the screen display, Wii Remote+ tech, dual-analog, battery and etc.
The M.O.B said:I am more disappointed about the range of the U rather than the only 1 controller. My consoles are all in the living room but I usually play my handhelds in bed which is a good 2 rooms from my consoles.
I wonder if 3rd parties can create some kind of extender module.
zomgbbqftw
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H_Prestige said:
No they don't. That's the whole point, they get the benefits of a mature format, but they don't pay BDA licence fees or MPEG-LA licence fees for Blu-ray playback. True they lose the ability to play Blu-ray movies, but Nintendo have never made the 'all-in-one box' play like MS or Sony.
I thought nearly all the iterations of DS dropped within a year or so. Dependng on demand upticks, they may keep it that way through the end of the year, but it will be dropped before Vita and Wii U imo.Tron 2.0 said:
I'm thinking Nintendo is going for less margin on the console because the margins are so big on the portables.
bishopcruz
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ciccione said:
Nintendo isn't going to come out right away and say what its system CAN'T do. It's basic misdirection, no one trying to sell something is going to focus on its negatives. They will have to be asked, and probably asked a lot before it is confirmed.
But consider again that it has been spelled out by them anyway. No images AT ALL of multiple people using the tablet. No mention AT ALL by employees of Nintendo of multiple people using the tablet. But I'll summarize the information seen in this and other threads.
In the press information from nintendo:
notice how there is no mention of multiple connections.
Not so bad in and of itself if it were not immediately followed by:
Note that it mentions four Wii motes but only one new controller.
Next we have the images: (again straight from Nintendo.)
in both images of multiplayer, only 1 tablet is shown. Again Nintendo is telling us the details via omission.
then finally we have the quote from Iwata Asks:
add that to the fact that the only hint that we have gotten that there could be 2 tablets is from someone outside Nintendo, and the case becomes pretty damned clear. Every bit of evidence points to there only being 1 tablet per WiiU.
Now this COULD change in the future, though I find it unlikely. Chances are if it does it will be VERY limited: IE static screens or 2-d play calling, things like that. But even that is unlikely at this point.
zomgbbqftw
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a176 said:ibm processor, radeon graphics, flash memory
sounds like ...
Yeah, my source on the Blu-ray said Wii-U is comparable to 360/PS3 in terms of raw power. Again, unofficial, but the original power target was much higher, but Nintendo cut stuff to fit a smaller thermal envelope and keep costs down.