I don't know how anyone working an entry-level retail job can afford to live in my city (San Diego).
Working retail makes you a better person. I can't stand people that treat retail people like shit.
Curious what better places there are to work with only a HS diploma entry level.
Curious what better places there are to work with only a HS diploma entry level.
Pretty much. It's also something that's extending outside of retail too, and it's just as deplorable and speaks to an increasingly shitty trend in employer/employee relations that I think contributes to an underlying cynicism in every worker about our economic system.Basically this.
Pay the young people a living fucking wage and they might show up. Treat their time (via scheduling) with some respect and they might stick around. Offer reasonable opportunity for growth and your turnover will decrease, but these fuckers don't want to do any of that.
They want to treat employees like disposable kleenex and have the audacity to complain about shit when their well of reusable humans starts running dry. Assholes. I wish Amazon's employee treatment was better so I could feel better cheering on the demolition of average retail hell hole.
I'm sorry, that sounds terribleI had to push Target credit cards on people who lived in a low income neighborhood. They gave me a stat that said something like 1 in 20 people accepted the offer and apparently that was worth it to them.
Nothing ever made me feel worse on a moment to moment basis.
This is how it should be. A living wage and being treated with dignity, like you're a human being deserving of it.I'd never work in retail in America. It sounds fucking horrendous. I do work in retail in Australia but I get
$25.50/hr.
150% pay rate for Sunday.
Public Holidays are 250% pay rate or a paid day off. Employees choice.
Days in lieu for any public holiday on a rostered day off.
Free physio.
4 weeks holiday.
2 weeks sick leave.
8.5 weeks long service leave after 10 years.
A strong union to back employees up.
I wouldn't even consider working in this job for less.
Aww sounds like you found a couple positive retail stories i would like to heard them.From my experience: While there can be soul sucking scumbags out there, it always warms my heart and surprises me to see how kind some people can be.
I guess the general awfulness of people makes the good stand out, but it can still be a two way street.
This is just my personal experience, but maybe one reason theyre having trouble hiring people because they dont call applicants until like eight months later. Thanks for the call Best Buy but I got another job almost a year ago.
Retail for almost 7 years here. There is a big difference between working retail for an American company than say a French company (which I happen to work for).
- 11 an Hour
- 300% pay rate or leave for working sundays and holidays in december and 250% for non-holiday season Sundays
- 8 Food stamps (one each day I work)
- Hospitalisation insurance
- Automatic Pension saving (up to 80 a year)
- 4 Weeks holiday (not counting the days you earn by working sundays/holidays and choosing to get it back in the form of vacation instead of extra )
- Up to 30% Employee discount
That said, after almost 7 years, this absolutely doesn't compensate for how unfathomably shitty people are. Retail changes you to the core, for better and worse. Self entitlement and arrogance have increased very noticably.
So many sheltered people in this thread acting like a retail job is the worst thing that can happen to a person.
Retail work isn't fun but there are waaay worse jobs out there.
This is just my personal experience, but maybe one reason theyre having trouble hiring people because they dont call applicants until like eight months later. Thanks for the call Best Buy but I got another job almost a year ago.
Customer service is soul draining and exhausting. Doing it face to face can make you pray for the sweet release of death
Curious what better places there are to work with only a HS diploma entry level.
The employees are the issue. The customer will be an annoyance for maybe 5 minutes. However youll always have management yelling at you for not having people sign up for their shitty store cards or paying for protection on their new electronicIt's the customers. They wear you down.
Theres re tons one great customers who are genuinely thankful that you helped them, but every now and again you get one super horrid one, and eventually those kind break you.
You forgot the shit boss that treats you like you're less than human.
I think it would make some people better and turn other people into supervillians who believe mankind was a mistake.I do believe if everyone worked customer service for a year or 2, the world would be a better place
I do believe if everyone worked customer service for a year or 2, the world would be a better place
I think it would make some people better and turn other people into supervillians who believe mankind was a mistake.
We should be subsidizing labor by providing baseline income and social welfare benefits that are paid for in part via taxes on those CEOS/Shareholders/companies.In America now, many times they'll set you up with welfare sign up docs when you get a retail job. Taxpayers are literally subsidizing labor on one end, just to keep prices down a few cents on front end. Meanwhile CEOs and Shareholders take their boats of cash out of the system.
So if someone is against welfare it wants it reduced, point out that they have to support a livable wage then.
Someone has to pick up the tab, and the way it's set up now is it's the taxpayer.
My first job was as a dishwasher and then cooking pizzas. That was when minimum wage was a whole lot less than it is now and it certainly wasn't a "living wage" back then either.Fucking assholes won't pay people more than they can make not in that position. Millennials are starting to dominate the workforce, and they're gonna start demanding decent wages or we're gonna see massive unemployment/underemployment as people get sick of the treatment. You can only mistreat the young for so long.
I've also noticed as I've gotten into corporate world the higher up the food chain you go the further away from customers you get. The people at the top know what's up.
I did my time. They don't get paid enough, not by a long shot. "Anyone could do it" ought to be balanced with the fuckin toll it takes on a human psyche when done for years.
There are tons of people who have already done it 2, 5, 10 years, who would rather just be unemployed than do it again. I feel em.
So instead of making the jobs less shitty...you blame millenials for not wanting them? OK.My first job was as a dishwasher and then cooking pizzas. That was when minimum wage was a whole lot less than it is now and it certainly wasn't a "living wage" back then either.
The isn't a new thing where today's poor millennials are suddenly being mistreated. I fully understand different times had different opportunities and it's a whole lot different and difficult now, but crappy entry level jobs for the young workforce isn't a groundbreaking phenomenon.
When we get young people saying... "fuck that, I'd rather be unemployed", I hope they can understand that that's sounding really entitled. So sponging off your parents and the government is better than taking an entry level job? Yeah, that's not sounding too good.
I didn't want to be a dishwasher either, but I did it.So instead of making the jobs less shitty...you blame millenials for not wanting them? OK.
This .... isn't the issue w/ restaurant service work at all. Generally there's strong resistance to moving away from tipping to an hourly or salary structure because it's viewed as net negative by those employees to their take-home income.Plus so many of retail jobs cheat and illegally take advantage of lower minimum wages for tipped employees. Depending on where you live there's a good chance your standard service person or gas station attendant is making $4 an hour or worse because theoretically a customer could tip them and they're desperate enough to have to take that job. It's an epidemic and no one is talking about it.
I just came off a 3-month unemployment stint (work at a call center for people trying to get on disability, not much of an improvement), one of my last interviews was at Costco. I was really disappointed because I've always heard them talked about like the gold standard of retail, and maybe it was just this location, but they advertised a regular full-time job at $15/hr only to turn that around at the interview and say it was $12/hr, I would be starting at 24 hours a week and like you said, demanded complete open availability. I direct theatre as a side gig so obviously that wasn't fucking happening, and I straight-up told them this at the interview. I'm 26 man, I've got shit to do.Retail is hell.
A lot of stores also now have unreasonable demands for entry level like wanted complete open availability at part time minimum wage. No thanks.
Yeah I see that shit all the time. McDonald's and Taco Bell and places like that with signs claiming "up to $16." "Up to" being the key modifier here because they sure as shit won't honor that for anyone except maybe for a GM position.Every fast food place around me has "Now Hiring" signs up. They're even advertising higher than minimum hourly rates and open interviews to get interest.
Longest job I worked in college was at KFC, I was there on and off for about a year and a half. Had a manager near the end who was there when I started, but by that point just absolutely did not give a shit. I had a blast working with her the last few weeks just because we were both clearly over it. The day after her last day I put in my two week notice.Retail managers are 100000x worse than the customers.
And if you get lucky enough to find a decent one they'll be gone sooner than later.
I applied for a job at Kwik-Trip (Midwestern gas station chain) and they asked for seven fucking references, and three of them had to fill out an online form. I honestly couldn't believe it.I tried to get a job at Target once, may as well have tried to get a job with the FBI, the screening and interview process was fuckin ridiculous.
Surprised they didn't ask me for a college degree
Friend of mine working at Perkins (my last retail/restaurant job, but this was a different location. Still, bad enough I nearly had a mental breakdown over it and made a thread about it on GAF) had to save a 14-year-old girl who tried to kill herself by slashing her wrists in the back alley.Sounds like you might be the sheltered one. How many guests have you almost been stabbed by? Ever had to deal with an overdose in a public restroom? And the mother/daughter fist fights. Those are a blast.