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Fromsoftware's new project teased (Shadows Die Twice)
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Dubloon7
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just please go away and never return to this website. go do your horrid BS at resetera or 4chan
Sentenza
Member
I don't thnik you are in the position to make demands, honestly.
Even less in a spot that allows you to take the moral high ground.
Blam
Member
Also something they regretted doing.
Who exactly is "they" and why?
DavidGzz
Member
Exclusives are good now? Only to Sony or MS. If this game was exclusive to PC people claiming exclusives are a good thing would change their tune. If Bloodborne was also on PC, we would have 60fps and some good mods, not sure how being exclusive to PS is a good thing for gamers.
Dubloon7
Banned
lol smh lol
brap
Banned
Lol. There's a million stale ass souls games. We don't need a new one every year. It's turning into CoD. Hope From does something different for once.
fvng
Member
Bruh it only feels that way because Souls knockoffs are a thing now
Ar¢tos
Member
Dark Souls is a Namco IP, I doubt From got a fortune from it.
If they could fund a game themselves they would have done BB multiplat (the ideas behind BB came from From, but because Sony paid for it, it is a Sony IP).
They also have a great relationship with Sony and Sony knows their games are popular now and can offer more funding than Namco.
I wouldn't put the possibility of another exclusive game aside.
brap
Banned
That's why we need a new Tenchu
Masagiwa
Member
I agree with you. They can fund a BB type game now with giant corporate daddy Kadokawa owning the company. Kadokawa also said in their buyout message that they are happy to lend resources to From in the form of money, developers and publishing if it was necessary and made financial sense. Will be exciting to see if they will self-publish their future games worldwide or if they still need help by other publishers like Bandai etc in the west (I doubt it). I just think it's less likely that a publisher would work with another publisher and share the profits if they can do it themselves. But nothing is impossible especially when the insane demand for a certain title is there.
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Vawn
Banned
It's my understanding Capcom had no intentions on making Street Fighter V at that time until Sony offered to help fund the game.
Tomb Raider (which up to that point was mostly associated as a PlayStation franchise) was funded by SquareEnix. Later, Microsoft came in to pay to keep the game off of PS4 for a then undisclosed period of time. Actually, they attempted it to sound as it may be a lifelong Xbox exclusive.
Achelexus
Member
I'll never understand why IPs belong to publishers and not the developers.
It's a near Monopsony; limited publishers and many developers. Worse, most publishers can develop their own games and stay afloat if need be, whereas pure developers need publishers. Hence, publishers force developers to sign rights away.
Pachi72
Member
Bloodbourne is actually a way better game than DD
Pachi72
Member
I think cause Publishers put out the money to develop the game?
Masagiwa
Member
It's more complicated than that. It's all in the nitty-gritty of the contracts publishers and developers sign. There are publishers who sign deals where they agree to fund the majority of the project and that way gain more control and receive most of the revenue (this is what a lot of smaller devs have to do, to even get a project made). It also works the other way where u have developers who basically are bigger and sign deals where they want to retain control of the IP but are willing to sacrifice revenue to the publisher. Some devs only wants help with distribution. There can also exist contingencies like "You are not allowed to develop a sequel to this game without us being involved bla bla bla".
I.O Interactive for example made a deal with Square Enix to retain all rights for the Hitman IP when they recently went independent again.
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ickythingz
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Oh, ok thanks for deciding the games are stale. Millions of us completely disagree. You just have to deal with this fact now. So yes, we need a yearly souls game. I am sorry this angers you. Perhaps you should leave the souls community since you add nothing but hate and negativity?
fvng
Member
That's why we need a new Tenchu
Yes pls
brap
Banned
Millions of people also like the big bang theory. Your point? If you want to play the same game year after year with a new coat of paint then be my guest. And it's hilarious you say I add hate and negativity just because I'd rather have them work on something else for once. Some of us enjoy new gaming experiences not the same CoD/Madden/Souls/Ass Creed year after year.
DavidGzz
Member
Souls started in 2009 and we've only had 4 in those 8 years. 5 if you count Bloodborne. No developer has been able to match Fromsoft's quality so far. It's not like we're getting an abundance of these types of games that are good quality. CoD had a yearly game plus a lot of competition in the FPS genre. I for one do not feel burnt out on the formula at all. I would love it if we actually had more from competent devs. Hell, it's been over two years since DS3. Comparing it to CoD is a stretch but unsurprising from someone that says we've had millions of stale ass souls games. lol.
There are many other games out there for you to enjoy from several developers, let Fromsoft work on what they do best.
24hourpartypizza
Neophyte
It's similar to the relationship authors, musicians, and filmmakers have with their respective publishers, record labels, and studios; the latter puts up the funding, production, distribution, marketing, and accounting so that the former can work on the creative content. Game devs (and creative types in general) aren't usually business people. But for whatever reason -- probably because games are such a young industry still -- the game publishers have been able to consolidate and flex their power much more than developers, who don't have unions or groups organizing on their behalf like other artists often do (see: Screen Actors Guild, ASCAP/BMI, various legal defense funds, etc). Developers need to organize, but it will never happen.
brap
Banned
They're making Otogi 3? lol jk. I would love if we had more competent devs too. I don't see From changing up the formula anytime soon. I really gotta play Nioh which looks like a fresh take. Shit, if From made a souls game in ancient japan I'd be happy with it.
I've heard that teh new game is a new Kuon, which was a survival horror game in the same vein as the original Resident Evils and Silent Hills. The Two Best Friends Play channel did a brief play through of the game on Halloween. Also Miyazaki said that if in five years an employee came up to him and asked if tehy could make a new Souls game, and that if he liked the idea, they could make a new Souls game.
Masagiwa
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IbizaPocholo
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I don't see how this hurts players overall. Everyone knows if you want to play Mario you have to buy Nintendo. Exclusives are a given, more of a treat for fans than a punishment as you make it sound. Also not all gamers are into mods or having to keep up with PC gaming.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
IIRC and IMHO, Nibel has been a source of information, an avid gamer, and so forth since I've been on GAF. I've seen his posts a handful of times. And apparently a jokester. :/
I have to wonder if this is a totally new project or something they've done before. It'll be interesting. Lore and languages could transverse multiple titles. The evidence of similarities could be true too.
a true spiritual successor to Tenchu would be nice. Another Bloodborne would be fantastic. Something completely new would also be welcome.
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SLoWMoTIoN
Unconfirmed Member
>Limiting yourself to one platform
Nemesis Prime
Member
Glad this is not an exclusive, excited for future titles to be going to PC now
Gave DS3 a whirl on PC for the first time ever and really enjoyed it
Fuz
Banned
Ar¢tos
Member
Exclusives are the only way developers can be creative without taking risks.
Do you think Quantic Dream or Media Molecule would be making weird games if Sony didn't guarantee their salaries regardless of sales? Remove all exclusives from game lists and see what it's left: generic shooter, generic rpg, generic action game, generic racer, etc. The only innovation would be small indie games.
Zaffo
Member
I feel that goes double for big first party exclusives due to the big money investment, if you care for your design driven bold games, B tier development and Indie is the place to go.
Nowdays i smell a little bit of Ubisoft aroma even in Nintendo games like BotW and Odissey, in the way they try to include way too many collectables and a bit of gameplay for every kind of gamer.
Danjin44
The nicest person on this forum
Say what you want about Odyssey and Breath of the Wild having too much collectables but at very least they trust the players to explore themselves and it also one of the things GOW does really well even though it's not full open world.
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Deleted member 738645
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Nibel didn't write those leaks. Another use on ERA wrote them, Nibel just reported it on Twittee.
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Red Crayon Aristocrat
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>Not hoping that as many games as possible get good PC ports
Anyway, I'll be very curious to see what this is, the title gives me a very ninja vibe.
ThatStupidLion
Member
Sniffing doesnt seem to translate well for gaming as gaming is visual so im not quite sure how to factor that in. Maybe you have a hunting dog or are a werewolf...the broom weapon also makes zero sense. Cant wait to see it. Even though its not bloodborne 2 it could still be a spiritual successor..
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sublimit
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.... i'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or if you took that seriously.... -_-
Ar¢tos
Member
Souls have an history of having at least one useless weapon in each game. Broken sword hilt, ladle, etc. A broom wouldn't be far fetched.
