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Gaijinworks set to tease new PSP localization in Retro magazine

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Videoneon

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I'm finding myself very curious to see how this pans out, no matter what it is. Continued PSP localizations, and continued interest in UMD manufcaturing? Gotta respect moving against those odds.
 
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urfe

Member
Idempotent Button said:
I'll be flayed alive for saying too much on that topic, so I'll just say that tapping into talent from around the world can result in a title with broad multinational appeal if the right balance can be struck.

For example, I believe Square Enix should be tapping into the writing and design talent at Eidos Montréal for their own first party projects.
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I don't want to flay you, but I do want to express why I disagree with you. :)

I think the beauty of most RPGs came from people making games they wanted to in the team they were in. I think for the most part conscious decisions to cater to audiences usually results in a worse game.

For example, one reason I think Final Fantasies were not good after VII is because VII had international success, and that made Square conscious of another market.
 
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Faustek

Member
So any confirmation if this would come to Europe as well?

Always breaks my heart when I see no Chronno Cross/Suikoden on EU PSN(Swedish, someone delisted it)
 
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Yuterald

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cyborg009 said:
I check out some youtube videos but why did they change it from 3d?
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You're asking why From went from fully controlled 3D gameplay to Shining in the Darkness/Eye of the Beholder-like dungeon crawling? I couldn't tell ya, hah! I'm guessing they changed things up a bit because those types of dungeon crawlers work well very well on portables. The DS/PSP were littered with title-by-tile dungeon crawlers at the time too, right? I mean, I've been a From Software fan since the early King's Field days and I much prefer the mainline titles as opposed to the side spin stuff, but my brother imported and played through the Additional games and I got to see/hear all about it and they sounded/looked very cool.

I know I've posted about these games before, but the Additional titles were pretty unique from all of the other first person dungeon crawlers I've played at the time. For one, they were solo character driven games. Combat was always one-on-one and there was an active element to the battles. What's really interesting is that you could manually bring up your shield and block enemy attacks during a fight. The games weren't as dark, desolate, and isolated as the flagship titles (as they introduced a town with shops, pubs, and casino-like elements), but the dungeons were still filed with traps, hazards and shortcuts. Good stuff.

Nothing against all of the recent first person dungeon crawlers that have gotten released, but from my perspective it's sort of frustrating to see games like Elminage and Class of Heroes get localized while something fresh and unique in this sub-genre like King's Field Additional gets lost and barely mentioned/remembered.
 
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Yuterald

Member
PepsimanVsJoe said:
Elminage was fuckawesome though.
I wish UFO or somebody would localize more of them.
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Yeah? I still haven't picked up Elminage yet (still debating whether or not I want to eBay a physical copy...might be too pricey). Still, I'm pretty sure if there's a small audience for Elminage then there would probably be enough people to warrant the Additional titles...and yeah, I get it, maybe no one's approach From Software about those titles or maybe there's all that business shit in the way and they don't want anyone touching their games, etc, I don't know. I just feel like with the success/popularity of Demon's/Dark Souls it is the perfect opportunity for From to resurrect some of their resting IPs. It would just seem so easy to market them as "From the creator's of Demon's/Dark Souls" so that the new fan base could get the chance to appreciate, play and see what essentially spawned those games.
 
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Green Card

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Yuterald said:
Yeah? I still haven't picked up Elminage yet (still debating whether or not I want to eBay a physical copy...might be too pricey). Still, I'm pretty sure if there's a small audience for Elminage then there would probably be enough people to warrant the Additional titles...and yeah, I get it, maybe no one's approach From Software about those titles or maybe there's all that business shit in the way and they don't want anyone touching their games, etc, I don't know. I just feel like with the success/popularity of Demon's/Dark Souls it is the perfect opportunity for From to resurrect some of their resting IPs. It would just seem so easy to market them as "From the creator's of Demon's/Dark Souls" so that the new fan base could get the chance to appreciate, play and see what essentially spawned those games.
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I haven't played any King's Field games but I definitely am interested in playing them because of the Souls games. I have KF2 but I haven't gotten around to playing it but like you said the PSP ones are unique. I will say I really liked Elminage and recommend it if you like or are interested in dungeon crawlers. I wanted to buy the physical copy but couldn't order it because I live in the US or are you talking about a Japanese copy?
 
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jon bones

hot hot hanuman-on-man action
i'll buy whatever this is digitally on my vita day one

love support like this

SpikedGunner said:
Fair Enough, you deserve better and Valkyria Chronicles 3 does as well...after sleeping on it for a while, I've thought of a few things, so for starters I would:

Listen to a Kanye West album
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lol why don't you stick to video games kid
 
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Ramzastrife

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Green Card said:
I haven't played any King's Field games but I definitely am interested in playing them because of the Souls games. I have KF2 but I haven't gotten around to playing it but like you said the PSP ones are unique. I will say I really liked Elminage and recommend it if you like or are interested in dungeon crawlers. I wanted to buy the physical copy but couldn't order it because I live in the US or are you talking about a Japanese copy?
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There are a few people that were able to order it in the US without the use of someone in EU.
 
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Faustek

Member
Green Card said:
From Ghostlight? I either emailed or tweeted them and they ignored me.
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You have a bigger chance to get a response from @Ghostlight_Ross or on their blog. Although know that they are on Holliday's now.
Love seeing my name in the DS release and the cards from Elminage.

I just hope they try out the quota preorder thingy more so we can get more releases in EU.
 
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djtiesto

is beloved, despite what anyone might say
With Vic making some references to people forgetting about Konami... I'm gonna go out on a limb and say this the game is from this publisher...

which means I think it will be one of these:
-Tengai Makyo: The 4th Apocalypse (since Konami now owns the rights of Hudson)
-Frontier Gate
-Suikoden: Tsumugareshi Hyakunen no Toki

Then again he also made references to "subgenre" and the aforementioned games are all fairly orthodox in their gameplay structure.
 
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Steel

Banned
djtiesto said:
With Vic making some references to people forgetting about Konami... I'm gonna go out on a limb and say this the game is from this publisher...

which means I think it will be one of these:

-Suikoden: Tsumugareshi Hyakunen no Toki

Then again he also made references to "subgenre" and the aforementioned games are all fairly orthodox in their gameplay structure.
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Not to mention he specifically said it's not suikoden.
 
Valkyria

Valkyria

Banned
Man, one can only dream with something like Sakura Taisen. Playing the games without a text guide and in my Vita.... banderas.gif
 
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androvsky

Member
Valkyria said:
Man, one can only dream with something like Sakura Taisen. Playing the games without a text guide and in my Vita.... banderas.gif
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Yeah, I finished 1 and 3 following a guide. That has to be about the worst series to have to follow a translation guide for. Still awesome games even playing them like that.
 
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Idempotent Button

Banned
urfe said:
I think the beauty of most RPGs came from people making games they wanted to in the team they were in. I think for the most part conscious decisions to cater to audiences usually results in a worse game.
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I get what you're saying, and you're right; intentionally catering to multiple audiences can indeed be a disaster, but one should always be on the lookout for innovative ideas, regardless of where they come from.

I realize these aren't the best analogies, but think of it in terms of music theory, filmmaking techniques, or even scientific research. Standing on the shoulders of giants by basing your own creative work on the works of those who came before you has always proven very successful regardless of nationality.

Shigeru Miyamoto is a fantastic example of someone who has directly influenced an entire generation of Western game developers, and they're now largely out-doing him at his own game.

urfe said:
For example, one reason I think Final Fantasies were not good after VII is because VII had international success, and that made Square conscious of another market.
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I'm not so sure. Being conscious of other markets in their first-party projects certainly hasn't helped them out much, because they continue to lose ground to Western developers. No, I think Square's problem is god-awful writing and stagnation.

XIII was so terrible I never actually finished it. Aside from the game's design issues, the characters made me want to puke my guts out. Give me a good Mothership Tales game any day of the week. :)
 
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djtiesto

is beloved, despite what anyone might say
Idempotent Button said:
Shigeru Miyamoto is a fantastic example of someone who has directly influenced an entire generation of Western game developers, and they're now largely out-doing him at his own game.
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What western games are outdoing Mario 3D World and Link Between Worlds? (not sure how much of these are Miyamoto so to speak but whatevs)
 
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Darrenm

Neo Member
djtiesto said:
With Vic making some references to people forgetting about Konami... I'm gonna go out on a limb and say this the game is from this publisher...

which means I think it will be one of these:
-Tengai Makyo: The 4th Apocalypse (since Konami now owns the rights of Hudson)
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I've been waiting to get into this series since I was a kid, I've seen it mentioned a few times over the years as something Vic and his teams have always been looking at. Tengai Makyo would be so exciting! I'm not really interested in the CoH series but bought a few copies of CoH2 and backed the original Kickstarter just to see what else that experiment/proof of concept could bring about, it would be great if it was something I've been looking forward to.
 
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Ramzastrife

Member
My guess is Tengai Makyou. He said this one is not suikoden, but he did say that releasing this first game would be important as to what could come next. I think Suikoden could be the next.
 
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androvsky

Member
Ramzastrife said:
My guess is Tengai Makyou. He said this one is not suikoden, but he did say that releasing this first game would be important as to what could come next. I think Suikoden could be the next.
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It's not a bad guess, as it's a game he's been going after for a long time. On the other hand, Sakura Wars would imply Valkyria Chronicles 3 eventually, as they were made by the same team in Sega. And I'm sure we could all come up with a few other Sega titles that could use a re-release or translation...
 
cj_iwakura

cj_iwakura

Member
androvsky said:
It's not a bad guess, as it's a game he's been going after for a long time. On the other hand, Sakura Wars would imply Valkyria Chronicles 3 eventually, as they were made by the same team in Sega. And I'm sure we could all come up with a few other Sega titles that could use a re-release or translation...
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Response to a CoH2 LE may have been lukewarm, but Sakura Wars? That would sell like gangbusters.

I hope so at least.
 
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ascii42

Member
androvsky said:
It's not a bad guess, as it's a game he's been going after for a long time. On the other hand, Sakura Wars would imply Valkyria Chronicles 3 eventually, as they were made by the same team in Sega. And I'm sure we could all come up with a few other Sega titles that could use a re-release or translation...
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Yeah, like Seaman 2 for the PS2 and Segagaga for the Dreamcast. Or maybe that's just me.
 
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Green Card

Member
I didn't really find Sakura Wars 5 to be that great. I didn't even finish it. Are the older ones better or are they all pretty similar?
 
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androvsky

Member
Crimsonsky said:
If Sakura Wars 5 is anything to go off of you are sadly mistaken. A shame to be certain as they are fine games, but "gangbuster" sales for them is not in the cards in the west.
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The original Sakura Wars could've been a pretty big hit if it had been localized within a year or two of coming out in Japan. Nowadays, I think it could do really well for a PSP game in 2014. Visual novels are becoming a lot more accepted, and I think the dialog system could review well. Well, it would if any major reviewers will bother with a PSP game next year. :/ I don't think there's much hope for a 999 or VLR type buzz, but Sakura Wars is pretty accessible; easy to get into, tough to master. And there's no grinding at all, so it should be an easy sell on forums. ;)

However, Sakura Wars 5 is a pretty bad indication. Just about everything that could go wrong or push up the budget needlessly happened; from a very expensive complete dub, a useless Wii port, Sega of America deciding they needed to rush out three other JRPGs the same month as Sakura Wars (Infinite Space, Resonance of Fate, and a very rushed Yakuza 3), to NISA having to delay the release until a huge month for HD console gaming (Final Fantasy XIII was also that month, along with God of War 3). That, and there wasn't as much fan buzz around the title since everyone heard 5 basically killed the series in Japan (even if 4 was supposed to be the ending). And it didn't have any of the characters from the multiple anime series that had already been localized.


Green Card said:
I didn't really find Sakura Wars 5 to be that great. I didn't even finish it. Are the older ones better or are they all pretty similar?
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Depends on what you didn't like. 5 is easily the worst for characters and story (4 might fail on the story, haven't played that one yet), but the basic gameplay structure is the same in all of them. 5 was the only one with the air battles, but I didn't like how those played. And seeing how important characters and story are to a game like this, I can see how people would be turned off.

The first game has some classic story moments a ways into the game, but for the most part it's basically a good 90's anime and a good, if simple, 90's SRPG. What that means to you will play a large part in how much you like the game.
 
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Clov

Member
cj_iwakura said:
Response to a CoH2 LE may have been lukewarm, but Sakura Wars? That would sell like gangbusters.

I hope so at least.
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That's what I said about 5. Such a great game. Such a pity it sold poorly.

Personally I'd love if Vic localized the PSP version of Sakurai Wars 1+2, but I'm not sure how likely that would be.
 
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pahamrick

Member
Looking forward to the announcement. Plus this has the added benefit of allowing me to keep my slim hope of seeing The Last Ranker localized someday.
 
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Crimsonsky

Member
Don't think anyone would debate those points, unfortunately they don't matter. The game did poorly, the chances of us getting anymore of them is dire indeed.
 
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Pooya

Member
sub genre? it's probably SRPG then.
'Major' game? so it's part of a franchise? more than one game exist something like that I assume.

forgot Summon Night 5 exists, it also has ufotable anime too! I hope it's that but then Vic says getting something from Bandai is hard...

I don't think it's Sakura Wars either, apparently the game got rejected once http://www.siliconera.com/2010/06/2...e-crossovers-sakura-wars-and-ps3-development/ maybe SCEA is more open now though.

If it's something from Sega it's probably Shining.

I think chances are it's some game that has a fan translation and they just got that and making it official but I can't think of any game like that right now.
 
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Green Card

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I guess there are a lot of Sakura Wars fans in here.

androvsky said:
Depends on what you didn't like. 5 is easily the worst for characters and story (4 might fail on the story, haven't played that one yet), but the basic gameplay structure is the same in all of them. 5 was the only one with the air battles, but I didn't like how those played. And seeing how important characters and story are to a game like this, I can see how people would be turned off.

The first game has some classic story moments a ways into the game, but for the most part it's basically a good 90's anime and a good, if simple, 90's SRPG. What that means to you will play a large part in how much you like the game.
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It was a while back that I played it but from what I remember the actually gameplay was decent but I didn't like the characters or story so I guess it makes sense I didn't like it if this is the weakest/one of the weaker titles in those areas.
 
Link1110

Link1110

Member
randomkid said:
I finally looked up footage of Tengai Makyou 4th Apocalypse because of this thread and I've decided I need to play it badly. For some reason I never realized that famous map of "America" was from that game.

http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/tengai/tengai2.htm
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It's one of my top RPGs ever. You need to play it now!! He said changes to the libraries others will imitate though so that makes be think a new system but currently on psn. Saturn maybe?
 
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