Yeah it's really weird. English speaking media doesn't seem to like the outcome of this gen so far.
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GI:BIZ Sony needs to stay humble and focused
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Yeah it's really weird. English speaking media doesn't seem to like the outcome of this gen so far.
They also have Persona 5 PS3/PS4, Tearaway Unfolded, Everybody's Gone to the Rapture, Ratchet & Clank remake, Grim Fandango, Hot Shots Golf.
Next year is a very diverse lineup from Sony exclusive-wise, but so few are in major IPs is a complete shit show to predict which will actually take off or not
And there is unannounced shit too
Portugeezer
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I was under the impression they started Gears development late, it's still a few years away. What is according to twitter?
Also, Tomb Raider is not exclusive (will be available on the 360, unless that changed, which it should do because that is ridiculous)
TechnicPuppet
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Screamride isn't an indie game. Sony look way stronger in 2015, 2014 has been a disaster for them though I personally loved Infamous.
I thought they only started ~ 6 months ago? i don't think they'll get the game done in 1 1/2 years.
The Order and perhaps even Bloodborne are the only games I can see selling over a million.
Everything else doesn't have that mass market appeal.
Manmademan
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domestic or worldwide? Persona 5 can definitely hit a million WW, it has the JRPG market essentially to itself.
Thank you sir.
I concur. But for my tastes 2014 was also a disaster for MS apart from Sunset Overdrive.
TechnicPuppet
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I was wrong, I looked back it was gears collection.
bananafactory
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Why is no one talking about The Last Guardian which is certainly arriving next year as well?
SolidSnakex
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Persona 4 Golden was at 700k at the end of last year. And that's an upgraded version of a PS2 game that's only available on the Vita.
Chobel
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When people say indie they mean small and/or digital-only game. Screamride fits that criteria.
John Bender
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Uncharted will definitely sell over a million. Ratchet and Clank also has a good chance.
My big question marks are Persona. Will it be bigger than P4 and P3 after how popular they were, or smaller due to jRPG sales regression in market? Or is the pent up wait for P5 really causing anticipation to build more than it otherwise would have?
And the other one is Tearaway. That game was one of the best I ever played, but was crippled sales-wise by being on Vita. Is it going to find a market on PS4? Will the gameplay changes they had to make allow the game to retain its unique charm? Will they market it? The bar for success will obviously be lower due to already having a lot of the stuff completed from Vita version, so budget is probably not near as high as some of their other games.
Also: Will Gran Turismo make an appearance in 2015?
gundamkyoukai
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Persona 5 could hit a million and Hot Shots Golf depending on Japan could.
Not certain how much Ratchet & Clank sales are but if the movie good that could help it .
plasmawave
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bananafactory
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lol perfect use of that gif. but no i won't stop believing
TechnicPuppet
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Everyone's taste is different, I ain't going to like Bloodborne, The Order or Uncharted. I didn't even look at FH2 cause I don't like open world racers, I'm more likely to like DriveClub though waiting on PS+ version to see if its aracedy enough for me.
I really wanna hear about GG RPG that's the Sony game I most wanna find out about now.
People must be talking about fiscal years.
TLG will be released this current fiscal year ending March 31.
bananafactory
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I hope Fable turns out good. I always wanted to get into that series but everything I've heard about the upcoming one has sounded underwhelming. I'd like to see more games like D4 on XB1, that's been my favourite so far.
Portugeezer
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As far as how well each game will sell, I think it will be a similar case to the PS3, in which there will be a big selection of games for different types of players.
PS3 pretty much didn't have a mega exclusive except Gran Turismo. Uncharted started making a name for itself; Killzone and LBP sold decently, but these were always compared to Halo/Gears. In the end PS3 sold 80+ million similar to the 360.
PS3 pretty much didn't have a mega exclusive except Gran Turismo. Uncharted started making a name for itself; Killzone and LBP sold decently, but these were always compared to Halo/Gears. In the end PS3 sold 80+ million similar to the 360.
Naughty_Doge
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It must also be considered that Sony's rather lackluster 2014 lineup was because of unexpected events, like Santa Monica's IP cancellation (I think famousmortimer said it was scheduled for this fall) and The Order's delay, not exactly because they were getting complacent.
I can only see it hitting the 1 million mark if the PS3 version is included.
The PS4 version alone....I just don't see that market support for JRPGs.
U4, definitely.
Tearaway I will peg at ~250k LTD, and Ratchet I will have closer to 500k LTD.
Honestly, Platformers and JRPGs....
I don't know how to gauge them anymore, given their unfortunate decline in popularity.
After how awful Fable III was I'm not sure I can muster excitement for another one, much less with the focus this one has
Fable II was pretty good middle ground between their ambitions with FI and the nonsense of FIII, so I hope it can be more like that.
November 2015 will be interesting.
249$ XBO Halo 5 + Live + controller + Kinect bundle vs 399$ PS4 with Shenmue 3 and TLG.
bananafactory
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You forgot the limited edition HL3 PS4
Witness and No Man's Sky as well.
save some stuff for the PlayStation December Event, christ. Next you'll be ruining the FFVII rema---
--I mean FFXV demo playthrough
Surely you mean FFVII Remake :3
too funny
Press is weird when it comes to Sony. Why does everyone believe Sony is gonna become arrogant.
bananafactory
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And Rime, The Tomorrow Children, and WILD
StrongBlackVine
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Wow you are really invested in this November NPD huh?
How is Sony "not being humble"? Because they're not cutting the price of the PS4? That has nothing to do with being humble. It's a business strategy. Is Microsoft being "humble" by cutting the price of the XBO? Fuck no. It's a business strategy, the console is simply not selling, so they HAVE to cut the price to keep the merchandise moving.
Sony doesn't to play catch up, they created a compelling and solid product from the get-go. That's the perk of planning and executing correctly.
Nothing to do with humility.
Sony doesn't to play catch up, they created a compelling and solid product from the get-go. That's the perk of planning and executing correctly.
Nothing to do with humility.
Like I said on the last page:
The press will have a field day when XB1 outsells PS4 during November.
Look forward to all the Arrogant/Complacent Sony articles.
too funny
Press is weird when it comes to Sony. Why does everyone believe Sony is gonna become arrogant.
Likely the hubris filled start of the PS3 era along with the justified arrogance in the late PS1 and PS2 Era's.
Stone Ocean
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lol at the pricing
Sony's 2015 is sick.
I bet WiLD doesn't make it.
I wonder if Abzû will make it next year too?
Lord Malachite
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2014 was a disaster for Sony? It's far from their best year in terms of a game lineup, but the first full year of the PS4 has been incredible compared to 2007, the first full year of the PS3.
Manmademan
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Like someone else already pointed out, Persona 4G, a PS2 port on a dead system did 700K. P5 on the PS4 will exceed that easily, especially when you consider there IS no competing software in it's genre at ALL. (edit: I did forget type 0, but that's an uprezzed PSP game and not quite on the same tier.)
The PS3 doesn't really move a ton of software anymore. PS4 versions handily outsell it any time there's a multiplatform release. This was expected to happen eventually, but the next gen switchover is happening MUCH faster than anyone anticipated.
When P5 releases, the PS3 version is going to be an afterthought. 1 million on PS4 without too much difficulty.
Fantastic line up for 2015.
Hope Sony bothers to market that stuff though :/
Not anymore, to be honest.
I'm pretty confident MS will win.
Chobel
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Unfortunately that game is not coming next year, it's a 2016 game according to Shinobi.
Vita is the go to platform for JRPGs though, consoles are an entirely different story, unless your game is called Final Fantasy.
Majority of the PS4 exclusives I've seen being listed are like filler games.
Diverse library sure, but don't see the appeal in many of the games. I don't speak for everyone but stuff like No Man's Sky doesn't excite me.
Sony's line up will have assured heavy hitters like Uncharted/GoW/GT.
Then they'll have many other good selling games.
They've got many demographics covered with their exclusive lineup.