bananafactory
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He's just speculating but I think most people are confident it isn't coming next year.
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He's just speculating but I think most people are confident it isn't coming next year.
lukeskymac
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But that's anecdotal. You can't even remotely estimate the amount of people that think that way.
So you assume they aren't anything to write home about, day 0, because they're not AAA.
Wonderful.
joecanada
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yeah initially it got made fun of alot for being "dumbed down rpg" or "western rpg" or whatever but there was a lot of promise there, it was actually quite fun to play... but they just kept adding progressively more crap to it, until it became a pile of crap.
like in three , who the fuck thought it would be a good idea to have to navigate to each individual house to repair them every 30 minutes??
I really want to know who approved that.
I feel the website it's on is banned here, so I'll message you.
John Bender
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After the latest Shawn Layden interview, it sounds more like a new IP.
Pretty much. Reviews are pretty much what sell on to those type of games.
Honestly, Wii U has better lineup of games currently, and so does Xbox One. Opinions, how do they work?
StrongBlackVine
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Your opinion doesn't match the sales so PS4 must have enough games. Wii U is missing all the multiplats so it probably has the worst library to the average consumer.
I'm not sure what this article is really getting at, but I know what it's missing. Sony have in recent years (and for years and years!) brought a wealth of great exclusive games to their PlayStation consoles. They have mass appeal and a solid console for a good price and some very talented developers working away on future titles that will blow us away (hello UC4). They also have a great slate of indie games coming in 2015 which is actually the stuff I'm most excited about. Microsoft have a poor track record and now they no longer have the multi-platform crown.
I know it may not even happen in 2015 but Project Morpheus could be a game changer if they pull it off. Something that "could" create that Wii style buzz and explosion of sales to people not traditionally sold on gaming. They're serious about it and they could bring something to market that does a good job of VR for laypeople. With unique apps, many of which not explicitly "gaming" related they could have a hit on their hands, and by that point also have competitive bundle pricing of PS4 and Morpheus.
PlayStation Vue is another potential stunner, I'd say more so for US citizens than anyone else (I'm UK) in that it could be a viable replacement for cable tv etc. Another money spinner and I love what they're offering with VUE, ironically making the PS4 the go to "media" device as opposed to the XB1. All of this stuff could not work out as intended and totally bomb. Sony are always prone to cocking things up, like Vita's proprietary and expensive SD cards etc that helped sour the Vita proposition to many and was completely unnecessary.
I do believe they could pull it off though since their top level management seem to have wisened up and their support for games and gamers in the run up to the PS4 release proves they've learned some vital lessons form the PS3 launch era.
I know it may not even happen in 2015 but Project Morpheus could be a game changer if they pull it off. Something that "could" create that Wii style buzz and explosion of sales to people not traditionally sold on gaming. They're serious about it and they could bring something to market that does a good job of VR for laypeople. With unique apps, many of which not explicitly "gaming" related they could have a hit on their hands, and by that point also have competitive bundle pricing of PS4 and Morpheus.
PlayStation Vue is another potential stunner, I'd say more so for US citizens than anyone else (I'm UK) in that it could be a viable replacement for cable tv etc. Another money spinner and I love what they're offering with VUE, ironically making the PS4 the go to "media" device as opposed to the XB1. All of this stuff could not work out as intended and totally bomb. Sony are always prone to cocking things up, like Vita's proprietary and expensive SD cards etc that helped sour the Vita proposition to many and was completely unnecessary.
I do believe they could pull it off though since their top level management seem to have wisened up and their support for games and gamers in the run up to the PS4 release proves they've learned some vital lessons form the PS3 launch era.
Dragonborn
Member
I don't get it. Why is narrative that Sony is being arrogant and complacent getting so much traction?
bananafactory
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As you said, opinions. You can't make a blanket statement like "better lineup of games" while simply backing it up with what you think are better games.
pixellated_man
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It does to me as well sir, yes indeedy. The number of exclusives and their diversity put's Xone's much lauded exclusives for this year to shame. Sure, not all of them are going to turn out good. But you can say the same thing about Xone exclusives in 2015.
You know when Xbox owners start talking up indies (you know those games that should not be included in lists, cos they are not like... 'real' games) that are also coming to PC (Ori and the blind forest) and timed indie exclusives like Below, that there is a real dearth of announced 2015 exclusives on the Xone, especially the first 2 or 3 quarters of that year.
Can use a multitude of factors for this argument here, but there is a pretty solid list for year one for Sony.
gundamkyoukai
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Just speculating but Cory Barlog did say what he working on to early to show at the PS event .
And from reading some of his tweets looks like it going to be GOW4 of course if it a new IP i also happy .
GoW needs a hiatus, I believe.
I'd like to see what SSM is capable of outside of cinematic brawlers.
Open world RPG is what I want.
MS is going Super Sayain this holiday.
They see Sony just chilling at Roshi's and not doing shit.
boredandlazy
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Why don't we all wait at least until after the 'Playstation Experience' event before we make any proper judgements on how Sony is shaping up?
Dragonborn
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But Sony's been Super Sayain since last November.
John Bender
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StrongBlackVine
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Microsoft is only pushing hard in the U.S. though. If they were as motivated and hungry as you claim they would be pushing for Europe too. Seems like they are taking the easy, safe route and conceding over half the market to Sony...
Pathfinder
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Why does this sound more like a sales pitch than an opinion that's on topic?
wapplew
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I agree Sony need to stay focus. History shows that they are not very good at support more than one platform, Vita, PS Move and so on.
How many side projects Sony is cooking currently? Project Morpheus, PS Now, PS Vue and Vita.
Do they have enough internal studio or marketing budget to support all of them at the same time, while they still need to support PS4 with 3-4 AAA and 4-5 AA exclusive titles every year?
They need to expand internal studio or hire more second party, like a lot more.
How many side projects Sony is cooking currently? Project Morpheus, PS Now, PS Vue and Vita.
Do they have enough internal studio or marketing budget to support all of them at the same time, while they still need to support PS4 with 3-4 AAA and 4-5 AA exclusive titles every year?
They need to expand internal studio or hire more second party, like a lot more.
Naughty_Doge
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Probably just a case of the minority causing a lot of noise whereas the people enjoying their systems don't bother saying anything.
Syphon Filter
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History shows they support their system well and they start slow each time. I wouldn't worry about them.
That's fair.
I'm pretty hyped about that event, hope the payoff is good enough to blunt the news about losing NPD that will come out soon after.
Yea.....
The concept art is fantastic, as will the visuals be whenever it comes out.
But game design and narrative aren't something GG excel at.
Europe's PS loyalty took 3 generations to build up.
MS is smart in recognizing that there's no way they can compete/challenge that.
John Bender
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They have never made an open-world RPG, their second team is full with new staff/people, and KZ2 was amazing.
So let's wait and see.
Signs are good.
bananafactory
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Not to mention they hired the New Vegas writer.
StrongBlackVine
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PS had two generations of domination in the U.S. and Xbox was able to take that market so I don't see how Europe is so different.
a mediocre output, still bad online service even if you now pay for it and the drive club disaster.
i think it's enough for the first year
Consumer mindset seems to be totally different.
Folks in NA, and even UK seem to value pricing more.
Also helps that Xbox is home to the type of games that these markets love (shooters).
These are fair points.
Enough for a close to 2:1 worldwide sales advantage, and boy does that make some people, including people in the media, frustrated.
HORRORSHØW
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still trolling? don't you get tired of your own schtick, or is this your life?
Has it been confirmed that there will be no price drop announcement at the Playstation Event next month?
Pathfinder
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Grimløck;139886476 said:
bananafactory
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I also don't get the narrative that MS has had a much better 2014 than Sony.
PS4 has the only real current generation baseball game, as well as a major title like FFXIV.
The PS+ selection has also been fantastic. So yeah, I guess I really don't see a huge difference between the two of them like some would say.
Not confirmed but I see no reason why they'd drop the price when they are still selling very well. Doesn't make any financial sense.
- Botched first party game releases shipping with broken online (Halo/Driveclub)
- Well received major first party remastering release (TLOU/Halo)
- Well received open world game (Infamous/Sunset Overdrive)
- First party racing titles (FH2/Driveclub)
PS4 has the only real current generation baseball game, as well as a major title like FFXIV.
The PS+ selection has also been fantastic. So yeah, I guess I really don't see a huge difference between the two of them like some would say.
Not confirmed but I see no reason why they'd drop the price when they are still selling very well. Doesn't make any financial sense.
They have been doing that for the past year. That's why the PS4 which has the most games and better versions of most multiplatform games, is dominating.
It isn't just the American enthusiast press either.
John Bender
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Dragonborn
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Yup, makes zero sense. It'd be one thing if people said the the PS4 lineup doesn't personally appeal to them, but I see so many going around and stating it as if it were a fact that the PS4 has a weaker lineup. In my opinion, MS and Sony were equally weak this year exclusive wise. I loved SO and Infamous, FH2 is great (haven't played Driveclub) and I loved playing TLOU again (Halo MP being broken kinda defeats it's purpose).
Naughty_Doge
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I think it's because of the timing Microsoft chose. Releasing 3 (fantastic) games in less than two months made it seem like the XB1 was packed with games.
bananafactory
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Yeah I've played both FH2 and Driveclub and while they both do different things well, I'd probably give the edge there to FH2 since it's just way more polished.
They've both had a very similar year though in terms of first party content.
wapplew
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Funny how timing can shape different mind share.
orthodoxy1095
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And to be fair, perception really is everything. I don't think there's been some insidious narrative change or anything. People just get their ideas twisted pretty easily, regardless of what reality actually is.
bananafactory
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I suppose so. So in the first half of 2015 when we get The Order, Bloodborne, and Persona 5, is there going to be articles about the X1's lack of games and how they need to stay focused?
Pathfinder
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I suppose that all depends on how good The Order, Bloodborne, and Persona 5 end up being.
EDIT: ... and if they're on time.
Depends.
If those games review well, then definitely.
If they are average, then no one will care.
Dragonborn
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Which is crazy considering that starting in Dec, there's a pretty long and prominent drought of exclusives for it. Meanwhile Sony launches two new IPs within the first 3 months.
haha, of course we won't. You really think we would?
wapplew
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No one care about off season.