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[CoG]

Holy. That's how you start a game.

Not watching but if it tops GoW2's opening -- SWEET HOLY MOLEY!

 

[RoboPlato]

I almost caved and watched the video but it got removed. Probably for the best.

 

[Orobi]

Upload started but it's gonna take 2hrs (shitty upload speed here).

I'm fine with that, but I'm not sure if I'll be here to post the link when it's done

Try my ftp, I've sent you data via pm.

 

[jett]

Not watching but if it tops GoW2's opening -- SWEET HOLY MOLEY!

It obliterates GOW2's opening.

 

[Triple U]

So whats the deal with this stuttering business is it serious because I seen nothing in the german vid and it had some real heavy parts?

 

[jett]

So whats the deal with this stuttering business is it serious because I seen nothing in the german vid and it had some real heavy parts?

I didn't see it either. *shrug* Obviously if you didn't notice it it's not serious.

 

[hey_it's_that_dog]

Yeah, I know. I'm speechless as well about this decision. I can understand it in theory, but the impact reasoning just doesn't fly when using the blades as you shouldn't feel any impact at all as it should be absorbed by the chains.


It makes sense in Zelda as you are actually using a rigid sword, and it makes sense in GOWIII when using the Cestus gloves. But for the blades... hmm, not really.

Are you seriously suggesting the blades should just pass through enemies without any hit-pauses? I know it makes some sense conceptually, but from a design perspective it would look and feel like complete shit. They copied that from Japanese action games, and rightly so, as it's essential to the feel of impact. I can see how maybe you'd think the Cestus pauses are too much, but the blade pauses are REALLY short and I doubt most people even notice it consciously.

Also, to correct something said much earlier, the demo section IS a piece of the final game. Stig said so in at least one E3 interview. They cut out a puzzle for the demo, and I'm sure it's changed significantly since then, but I doubt it's entirely scrapped and replaced. One magazine review (that I translated with google, so maybe I'm wrong here) said the demo section was in there but had been improved a lot.

 

[Crisco]

So is it still possible to pre-order the UE from anywhere? Best Buy still shows it available on their website......

 

[TGO]

Does anyone know where ya can pre-order this in the UK

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[TTP]

Try my ftp, I've sent you data via pm.

Uploading...

 

[Audioboxer87]

Should you not just YouTube the first 10 mins to whoever has/had the video? I wanna see

 

[polyh3dron]

In regards to the 35GB number I believe I read in one review that some of the cutscenes actually are prerendered FMV, even though they were completely created with the game engine. Apparently they did this to maintain a smooth framerate. So it's basically just like how most of the cutscenes were in numbers 1 and 2.

 

[Corrupt]

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It's not coming to the UK, SCEE chose not to bring it here.

'A rep told us that the company has decided to go for the Ultimate Trilogy Edition instead of the Special Edition.

“We’re not getting that version, we opted for the Ultimate Edition,” said the spokesperson'

 

[StuBurns]

Should you not just YouTube the first 10 mins to whoever has/had the video? I wanna see

It'd get taken down, clearly the site wasn't meant to host it anyway.

 

[TTP]

Are you seriously suggesting the blades should just pass through enemies without any hit-pauses?

The blades themselves are free to pause, take a coffee and smoke a sigarette if they so prefer. But to stop the whole action? And to do that constantly during fast 30+ hit combos? I don't like that.

Besides, I didn't feel like it was something missing in GOWI and II.

 

[hey_it's_that_dog]

In regards to the 35GB number I believe I read in one review that some of the cutscenes actually are prerendered FMV, even though they were completely created with the game engine. Apparently they did this to maintain a smooth framerate. So it's basically just like how most of the cutscenes were in numbers 1 and 2.

Very few of them are pre-rendered, though the ones that are must indeed take up a good amount of space. The major contributors to the 35GB are the textures and the 2 hours of HD behind the scenes videos. IIRC the source of this info was a developer's post on the official GOW forums.

 

[LM4sure]

Prerendered?! Ugh! I hated that in the last two games.

 

[hey_it's_that_dog]

The blades themselves are free to pause, take a coffee and smoke a sigarette if they so prefer. But to stop the whole action? And to do that constantly during fast 30+ hit combos? I don't like that.

Besides, I didn't feel like it was something missing in GOWI and II.

GOW1 and 2 had hit pauses. I'm just having a hard time debating this because my subjective experience has obviously been so different from yours. I can't even remember exactly what the pauses feel like , and I just played the demo again a couple days ago.

It's totally fair that this is a big deal to you, but keep in mind that you seem to be one of the only people who experiences it this way.

Prerendered?! Ugh! I hated that in the last two games.

Why? In GOW3 they are entirely in-game assets. The transitions will be seemless and you own't even know it's pre-rendered unless it's obvious because of how much insane stuff is happening at once. Also, to repeat, few scenes will be pre-rendered.

 

[SolidSnakex]

Prerendered?! Ugh! I hated that in the last two games.

They're still using the in game engine. They're done like Uncharted. So you aren't going to notice any difference visually.

 

[jett]

Yeah actually most cut-scenes are real-time, only some are pre-recorded. It'll be easy to tell them apart as Kratos will appear wearing the bonus costumes in them.

The blades themselves are free to pause, take a coffee and smoke a sigarette if they so prefer. But to stop the whole action? And to do that constantly during fast 30+ hit combos? I don't like that.

Besides, I didn't feel like it was something missing in GOWI and II.

But they don't "stop the whole action". It's a minimal effect that heightens the impact. I just tried out the demo for the 100th time. Barely noticeable.

The cestus weapon is the one that really does stop the action. And it feels fucking great.

 

[StuBurns]

Prerendered?! Ugh! I hated that in the last two games.

Sometimes they piss me off, the ones in MGS4 and Uncharted 1 really stand out because of the compression, but if it's done right, you shouldn't even be able to tell.

 

[TGO]

It's not coming to the UK, SCEE chose not to bring it here.

'A rep told us that the company has decided to go for the Ultimate Trilogy Edition instead of the Special Edition.

“We’re not getting that version, we opted for the Ultimate Edition,” said the spokesperson'

But..but..the pegi rating...

 

[Nemo]

Awww, I wanna see the first 10 mins!

 

[LM4sure]

They're still using the in game engine. They're done like Uncharted. So you aren't going to notice any difference visually.

oops, missed that part! I was thinking it was like that awful fmv in the first two games. :lol

 

[InterMoniker]

Why the fuck would you watch the first 10min. of the game if you are really looking forward to playing it. It's just going to ruin your experience.

It be like watching the first ten minutes of a movie that you are really excited about seeing in a couple weeks.

 

[Loudninja]

Why the fuck would you watch the first 10min. of the game if you are really looking forward to playing it. It's just going to ruin your experience.

It be like watching the first ten minutes of a movie that you are really excited about seeing in a couple weeks.

No its not some of you are way to crazy about this type of stuff.

 

[Mad_Ban]

Just replayed the demo and can't notice any 'stuttering' from the camera, and I can be an exceptional gfx whore sometimes.

The only issues with the demo are the audio losing sync, momentary pauses in the game (attributed to FW 3.10) and the pauses when you hit enemies with the Cestus (but that's since been shown to be a decision by SSM).

 

[hey_it's_that_dog]

Why the fuck would you watch the first 10min. of the game if you are really looking forward to playing it. It's just going to ruin your experience.

It be like watching the first ten minutes of a movie that you are really excited about seeing in a couple weeks.

Seems like the first 10 minutes would be the best thing to watch compared to the middle 10 minutes or the last 10 minutes.

A bazillion people watched the first 6 minutes of The Dark Knight on the interwebs and they probably still had a good ol' time at the movie.

 

[Combichristoffersen]

Not watching but if it tops GoW2's opening -- SWEET HOLY MOLEY!

While it looks to be absolutely insane, I don't think it's quite as insane as GoW 2's opening was. Still, it looks absolutely stunning.

 

[TTP]

GOW1 and 2 had hit pauses. I'm just having a hard time debating this because my subjective experience has obviously been so different from yours. I can't even remember exactly what the pauses feel like , and I just played the demo again a couple days ago.

It's totally fair that this is a big deal to you, but keep in mind that you seem to be one of the only people who experiences it this way.

I don't recall pauses in GOW1 and GOW2 to be honest.

 

[-viper-]

Sometimes they piss me off, the ones in MGS4 and Uncharted 1 really stand out because of the compression, but if it's done right, you shouldn't even be able to tell.

I hate the compression in Uncharted 2. It's so obvious they're pre-rendered.

Were Killzone 2 cutscenes prerendered? They looked EXACTLY the same as gameplay. There were no compression artefacts at all. I hope the cutscenes in GOW3 are just like that.

 

[CrayzeeCarl]

I hate the compression in Uncharted 2. It's so obvious they're pre-rendered.

Were Killzone 2 cutscenes prerendered? They looked EXACTLY the same as gameplay. There were no compression artefacts at all. I hope the cutscenes in GOW3 are just like that.

What bugs me about the UC2 cutscenes is the ZOMG SUPER HI-GLOSS!1!11

 

[theignoramus]

I don't recall pauses in GOW1 and GOW2 to be honest.

Just outrageous amounts of screen tear.

 

[TTP]

Just replayed the demo and can't notice any 'stuttering' from the camera, and I can be an exceptional gfx whore sometimes.

Well, try harder man

Look at the background as soon as you enter the first big area with the big door and the two statues right at the beginning of the demo. The "jumpy" camera movement is very noticeable.

 

[jett]

I hate the compression in Uncharted 2. It's so obvious they're pre-rendered.

Were Killzone 2 cutscenes prerendered? They looked EXACTLY the same as gameplay. There were no compression artefacts at all. I hope the cutscenes in GOW3 are just like that.

The cut-scenes in KZ2 were all real-time. Guerrilla obviously had a bone to pick and something to prove.

 

[hey_it's_that_dog]

I don't recall pauses in GOW1 and GOW2 to be honest.

They were definitely there, but subtle. And the Blade of Artemis had major hit pauses.

I feel like the pauses in GOW3 are just as subtle (for the blades), hence my inability to fully take your perspective.

 

[TTP]

They were definitely there, but subtle. And the Blade of Artemis had major hit pauses.

I feel like the pauses in GOW3 are just as subtle (for the blades), hence my inability to fully take your perspective.

I just checked the Collection and yeah the pauses are there as you say. It's odd that I noticed them more and don't like them in GOWIII. Not sure why at this point. Perhaps it's frame rate related.

 

[FormerShirts]

Hit Pause has been used since the original God of War. Former God of War 1 and 2 Combat Designer, Derek Daniels, explains here:

http://lowfierce.blogspot.com/2007/03/why-some-games-feel-better-than-others.html

 

[Filldough]

Didn't see this posted yet. Interview with Design Director up on PSBlog http://blog.us.playstation.com/2010/03/god-of-war-iii-interview-with-design-director-todd-papy/ Sorry if old

 

[RustyNails]

Seriously I read this thread and it boggles my mind. Am I the only guy around who didn't notice any frame rate drop in the E3 demo, and overall thought it was FUCKING AMAZING? Holy jeez. I'm so glad I'm going to be enjoying GoW 3 when it comes out instead of being hung on about a miniscule 5 fps drop and crying crocodile tears about it.

I don't recall pauses in GOW1 and GOW2 to be honest.

Wat? There are tons of hit pauses in 1 & 2. Stand in the middle of a crowd and press L1+[]. Like mentioned above, Blade of Artemis had a very noticeable hit pause. I personally love them. It brings the arcade feel to it.

 

[CrayzeeCarl]

Seriously I read this thread and it boggles my mind. Am I the only guy around who didn't notice any frame rate drop in the E3 demo, and overall thought it was FUCKING AMAZING? Holy jeez. I'm so glad I'm going to be enjoying GoW 3 when it comes out instead of being hung on about a miniscule 5 fps drop and crying crocodile tears about it.

I'm right there with you. Everyone's talking about how terrible the E3 demo was and how they can't believe they let that steaming pile of shit out to the public. lolwut

 

[Silverthorn]

Seriously I read this thread and it boggles my mind. Am I the only guy around who didn't notice any frame rate drop in the E3 demo, and overall thought it was FUCKING AMAZING? Holy jeez. I'm so glad I'm going to be enjoying GoW 3 when it comes out instead of being hung on about a miniscule 5 fps drop and crying crocodile tears about it.

Wat? There are tons of hit pauses in 1 & 2. Stand in the middle of a crowd and press L1+[]. Like mentioned above, Blade of Artemis had a very noticeable hit pause. I personally love them. It brings the arcade feel to it.

You are not the only one. Some people are more sensitive to these things I guess. Looks all amazing and smooth to me. No complaints here.

 

[Halcyon]

The demo has framerate and stuttering issues. It's something that you'll notice immediately if you're focusing on the backround instead of kratos while you're running around. It gets bad after you walk into the big doors into the caves with the harpies and in a few other spots. Usually when I boot up the demo after I press start with kratos and he looks at helios then the camera pans down the game will stutter a bit for me.


As long as that stuff is fixed in the retail I will be happy

 

[corrosivefrost]

I'm right there with you. Everyone's talking about how terrible the E3 demo was and how they can't believe they let that steaming pile of shit out to the public. lolwut

I've had a few times where the E3 demo was stuttery and it wasn't the hit pauses -- but it was only once or twice during a playthrough of it... other playthroughs have been much smoother. If the finished product is a bump up in all departments, it will be potentially move into top spot for "game of the forever".

 

[BeeDog]

Hopefully the video's up soon, TTP/Orobi.

*kissing both sets of feet <3*

 

[JCreasy]

Somebody tell me not to watch that 10 minute video please . . . . PLEASE

I'm begging you

SAVE ME

 

[RustyNails]

Somebody tell me not to watch that 10 minute video please . . . . PLEASE

I'm begging you

SAVE ME

If you watch the video, Jeff Goldblum will eat a kitten.

 

[GuardianE]

Wat? There are tons of hit pauses in 1 & 2. Stand in the middle of a crowd and press L1+[]. Like mentioned above, Blade of Artemis had a very noticeable hit pause. I personally love them. It brings the arcade feel to it.

Hit pauses are used in a lot of action games, even if it's a little more subtle than GoW. DMC4's Nero would have hit pauses when using Fully Rev'd moves, I think.

 

[Orobi]

Uploading now on YT

 

[KZObsessed]

I pre-ordered this today. Just saying