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God of War: Ascension (PS3, Series Prequel) - Live stream 8AM PST 4/30
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A nightmare.
My personal experience of SP games adding multiplayer isn't good. If they can achieve it and if it makes sense then I have no issues - but for me no multiplayer means all resources focused on the GoW experience that I've grown to love.
Frankly that suggestion of what the multiplayer could be like is the stuff of nightmares as far as I'm concerned.
Hydrargyrus
Member
You must be an excelent videogame journalist nowadays!!
Gsak
Member
Multiplayer DOES NOT go with everything.
Uncharted 2, Assassins Creed Brotherhood had great multiplayer modes. It's not impossible, but it's only natural to be wary a bit.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
If the next Zelda doesn't have multiplayer, it's going to be stale.
it's a natural progression, look at Mass Effect, Uncharted, Dead Space etc...
Wind's Howling
Member
Get that stupid multiplayer fantasy away from the God of War franchise. Get it away from SSM in general. Why do you think games like Devil May Cry, Ninja Gaiden and Bayonetta do not have multiplayer? Because it just does not work and completely screws up the singleplayer portion as well. I'd rather have them focus on 1 aspect then go 50-50 on 2.
Multiplayer has nothing to do with making a game fresh. Killing real life bros the same the way you kill AI will change nothing.
And I'm glad we seem to be leaning towards no MP. Keep that garbage out of my SP franchises. You have a billion other games to play MP in.
Gsak
Member
Yet they can add it if they want to its never does any harm to anything.
Not sure where that line of thinking came from anyway. The it "can never work" defense stuff is so played out.
Ninja Gaiden has multiplayer and people seem to think its good.
I don't know about AC's sequels but U3 ruined the MP. I don't want gow to have mp for it to suck or for it to be good but never shown support.
It goes with demigod action games
The SP will never be as good as it was in God of War 2 anyway (GoW3 blew its load in the first hour lol).
Wind's Howling
Member
Yet the people playing can be counted with ease.
Want to play as Kratos and compete online? Go play Mortal Kombat 9.
Leave the God of War franchise as it is.
Not quite as played out as the "it doesn't do any harm to have it" defense.
1. If the devs view of GoW:A is to have Kratos fighting in massive battles with a squad of Spartans then multiplayer makes sense, no?
2. multiplayer does not detract from the single player when done by capable developers. They either add more staff or they add more time. Good devs have never released an inferior single player element simply because they added multiplayer.
Look at Uncharted 2, considered by most to be in all ways better than Uncharted 1, it had multiplayer. Same with the already mentioned Assassin's Creed. One of the best gameplay additions to the Metal Gear franchise recently has been multiplayer. Dead Space 2 added multiplayer and the single player didn't suffer from it one bit. The multiplayer isn't always of high quality itself, but well handled quality franchises have yet to fall apart simply by adding multiplayer.
A lot of series happen to add multiplayer when they're creatively bankrupt and don't know where to go with the series (Resident Evil). But the multiplayer is a symptom, not the cause.
There is no reason to believe that SMS is doing this, so why panic prior to seeing what exactly they're looking to implement?
Yes, because if the established developer of an existing single player game has an interesting new concept for the series that opens the door to multiplayer they should just shelve it so as not to change the formula. Great, nothing beats stagnant rehashes apparently.
The first part of this thread was a back and forth centered around a complaint that the series has grown stale. Now that there is some suggestion (with no factual basis at this time) that SMS has a vision for refreshing the gameplay style the bitching now centers around the fact that the refreshed gameplay might open the door for multiplayer.
Has SMS delivered a shitty God of War game yet? How many other great games have they helped out with that are worlds removed from the God of War franchise? Ever think that maybe, just maybe, the vision they have for a new God of War game might actually be a compelling game in it's own right that works ideally well within the backdrop of the GoW universe?
I don't know if your being sarcastic or not, but what you said is one of the things that is wrong in the industry right now.
How in the hell would multiplayer hurt you?Do they force you to player it?
It boggles my mind.
Wind's Howling
Member
It is not that multiplayer hurts me but by experience it hurts the game itself.
The Mass Effect franchise is a prime example of it.
SSM can do all they want with a new franchise but not with this one.
Sure, if that vision doesn't involve multiplayer. If that's all they can do to freshen up the series then they're obviously poor in creativity over there at SSM.
Carnby
Member
I can't help but think of Brutal Legend when I read this. RTS plus GOW combat does not work well together.
The multiplayer community for Mass Effect 3 would think otherwise. I have sunk 25 hours into that game and still haven't touched the single player or been exposed to the dreaded ending.
When developers build the game around multiplayer, then it hurts the singleplayer game. Look at Resident Evil 5. Those who didn't want to play CO-OP were then forced to have a shitty AI companion the whole game. This however isn't always the case though. Look at Dark Souls. The game is built around multiplayer, but it is done so in an unobtrusive fashion.
Same thing that came to my mind*
* - after I Googled "jack black game" because I couldn't remember what it was called
WTF?!?!?
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
I downloaded the free demo for Brütal Legend, and still felt robbed.
Omegasquash
Member
As long as Kratos is still angry and speaks like he ain't that bright, it should be a fun ride.
Q
https://twitter.com/#!/ToddPapyA
Does that mean that it might, JUST MIGHT, be a sequel instead of a prequel??? Please Kratos in the sky. Make it a sequel.
Ahhh who am I kidding.
So actually just player one gets betrayed and the co-op partners get to watch it? Or are there four different families that get slaughtered?
Both versions sound stupid to me.
Still, Mass Effect was never meant to be a multiplayer game. The Singleplayer has suffered from it, which is why people who play it for the SP are rightfully angry
SolidSnakex
Member
No, he's just saying that they have their reasons for making a prequel and people are just going to have to wait to find out why.
I dont think so.
Yeah sounds about right.All thsi will be cleared up on April 30 hopefully.
shinobi602
Member
Aphrodite.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
nelsonroyale
Member
He could kill himself. Then he would have killed the person who killed the ruler of the gods!
haha I know. Really wanted to believe otherwise for a minute.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
If they are going to change anything substantial about the structure of the game, I'd love them to go in the metroidvania direction. As others have said, there have been elements of it in previous games, but I want them to go further down that path. For one thing, it would give them an opportunity to make incredible environments that the player will spend more time in rather than running through in a straight line. I think that would substantially enhance the feeling of adventure, for me at least. They could also offer more upgrades more often as part of the gating system. These are the things my gamer-brain wants.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
The words "most ambitious God of War yet" strikes me as there being some big change to the gameplay formula. I have a feeling they don't want to mess with the combat much, so I would imagine a more Zelda-like or Metroidvania-like structure should be the case.
Zelda lack of multiplayer is not what is making it stale for the last two games.
That was pisses me off the most.I hope that post isn't true, mostly because I don't want a complete deviation from past games but also because I don't appreciate getting spoiled.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Then Zelda is going to be even more stale in its next iteration, because all games need multiplayer.
Acquiescence
Member
This kind of comment is really stupid to be honest. If you don't want people to judge your game for this trailer, don't release it. It's all everyone has about the game so far, what else are we going to base our thoughts on? Make a better trailer or accept things as it is.
Chuck Norris
Banned
Agreed. This teaser was really lame compared to the media we got for GOW3