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[jem0208]

On another note, would it be safe to assume this would support offline MP via LAN? It would be so good to be able to have tourney's without relying on a net connection.

I somehow doubt they'd bother writing a bunch of P2P code just for Forge/custom games on PC.

 

[RoKKeR]

Yeah I don't really agree with these thoughts. I think it's really just them taking advantage of the new cross platform infrastructure to ad a feature people have been asking for for the better part of a decade.

Call it what you will, but I'd say it is a way of showing that Halo will be have a presence on PC going forward. Unfortunately I was only able to find this one example, but there was another along the lines of "expect to see similar PC support present for HW2 for future titles going forward" posts from frankie:

However the first full Halo game to come to PC day and date with Xbox One version, will be Halo Wars 2.

I've seen a few people who are convinced that the next big Halo title won't be a Play Anywhere title... This initiative is key to MS's strategy moving forward, and you can bet that their marquee title will be front and center when the time is right.

 

[Ozzy Onya A2Z]

So.... Basically this is Microsoft telling PC users who wants to play Halo a big fuck you, and the closest thing we will have is to make maps for the Xbox One users to play? Is this really something I should be happy about?

Truly the worst first and misinformed post on GAF. Free PC Forge and 4K playable custom games almost a year after the game came out and you post this? How about a big fuck you mate

 

[Miker]

I think you'll see a spread of things initially, between Controllers vs M/KB, then M/KB players figuring out bindings and placements, and I don't know what that looks like in the end, but I've found myself playing VERY similar game styles whereby reticle control is a fine substitute for magnetism, but that's anecdotal as all getout.

If you use a controller, do you get the benefits of aim assist and magnetism? And if you're using an Xbone controller on W10, do the rumble triggers work?

 

[matthieuC]

Damn I wish that warzone assault map wasn't just for warzone assault. It looks really nice.

 

[Computer]

cheers bud

Between GAF and TeamBeyond I just can't get you out of my life.

And I like it.

We dem Boys! I really hope this sparks a big interest into the HCS.

 

[FyreWulff]

If you use a controller, do you get the benefits of aim assist and magnetism? And if you're using an Xbone controller on W10, do the rumble triggers work?

You didn't in Halo 2 PC. magnetism / assist turned off as soon as you touched the mouse.

 

[Feel the Swift]

You will find out more about easier ways to organize games soon. But correct, no XBL-style matchmaking.

Very important. Hopefully this is included for Xbox One players.

 

[Blueblur1]

Gameplay of Haven remake and new Assault map:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoImnyknqSw

Lots of new great art but the Warzone bases are exactly the same. Disappointing.

 

[Fata1moose]

Lots of new great art but the Warzone bases are exactly the same. Disappointing.

No! They added crates to the top of the bases now.

 

[TheSeks]

..you play them as well. On PC.

Yes, but you can't play the NON-Forge maps and single-player, which is what he's getting at.

 

[jem0208]

Yes, but you can't play the NON-Forge maps

Yes you can. It includes custom games.


Also every map except warzone is forgeable.

 

[Poodlestrike]

Yes, but you can't play the NON-Forge maps and single-player, which is what he's getting at.

You can forge on regular maps, so you can presumably run customs on them as well.

 

[wwm0nkey]

Yes, but you can't play the NON-Forge maps and single-player, which is what he's getting at.

Its every map except for warzone maps

 

[Trup1aya]

I somehow doubt they'd bother writing a bunch of P2P code just for Forge/custom games on PC.

The alterior motive would be that it would be useful for community LANs and the competitive scene.

No more reliance on the web, and the ability to use forge maps

 

[diablos991]

Meh.

Give me the campaign or GTFO.

 

[BeforeU]

Great stuff. I wont be using the forge tool personally, but cant wait to see some awesome creativity from people.

 

[VlaudTheImpaler]

So after reading that... Basically this is Microsoft telling PC users who wants to play Halo a big we are trying and the closest thing they have for us wont just be making maps for the Xbox One users to play, we get to play them too. This is really something I can be happy about.

 

[GreyWind]

Meh.

Give me the campaign or GTFO.

lol

 

[secretanchitman]

Holy shit, Mercy is a Haven remake? Yes! By far the best map from Halo 4.

 

[jediyoshi]

Yes, but you can't play the NON-Forge maps and single-player, which is what he's getting at.

Basically this is Microsoft telling PC users who wants to play Halo a big fuck you, and the closest thing we will have is to make maps for the Xbox One users to play?

Read to me your implicit interpretation of this statement.

 

[matthieuC]

Meh.

Give me the campaign or GTFO.

Nice comment

 

[Fata1moose]

So after reading that... Basically this is Microsoft telling PC users who wants to play Halo a big we are trying and the closest thing they have for us wont just be making maps for the Xbox One users to play, we get to play them too. This is really something I can be happy about.

A more accurate perspective:

Microsoft isn't telling PC players anything as this isn't meant for PC players. Forge on PC has been a requested feature going back to Halo 3, this is for the existing playerbase to use as a convenient tool. It's a fortunate byproduct that PC players can use Halo 5 Forge for custom games on both Arena and Forge maps, or even pick up Forge to make maps if they're so inclined.

 

[Pit]

Meh.

Give me the campaign or GTFO.

Lol Ok.

This is a great move, good work MS and 343. Maybe if this goes well they will port 5 to PC. Who knows. Support their shit and maybe good things will happen.

 

[Barrel Cannon]

Time for those halo custom forums to start opening up shop again

.... RIP gamespy

 

[curiouscharles]

If you use a controller, do you get the benefits of aim assist and magnetism? And if you're using an Xbone controller on W10, do the rumble triggers work?

if Titanfall was any indication, you should be able to get the same controller experience on PC as on console.

not sure what 343 will be doing though, but i'd presume they'd do this?

[honestly Halo on PC is SO WEIRD with kb/m, i would love if Halo 6 was strictly gamepad]

 

[QuantumSquid]

if Titanfall was any indication, you should be able to get the same controller experience on PC as on console.

not sure what 343 will be doing though, but i'd presume they'd do this?

[honestly Halo on PC is SO WEIRD with kb/m, i would love if Halo 6 was strictly gamepad]

If by "so weird" you mean "much better", you're completely correct.

Once you get good at aiming with mouse and keyboard, aiming with a controller feels like you're handicapped.

 

[curiouscharles]

If by "so weird" you mean "much better", you're completely correct.

Once you get good at aiming with mouse and keyboard, aiming with a controller feels like you're handicapped.

uh, dude, i'm a PC gamer since the late 80s, i know a kb/m is better.

just not Halo, on PC it's always felt "wrong" with a kb/m, game has always just been designed around a controller and has always felt "right" that way for me.

obviously you're allowed to disagree, just statin' me wee' old opinion.

edit: and despite me feeling it feels "right" with a gamepad, i still feel handicapped with a gamepad somewhat - always have, always will.

 

[jem0208]

If by "so weird" you mean "much better", you're completely correct.

Once you get good at aiming with mouse and keyboard, aiming with a controller feels like you're handicapped.

Halo is literally designed around the limitations of the controller.

One of the most important aspects of Halo’s weapon balance is the varying levels of aim assist and bullet magnetism. When using a mouse you obviously don’t have those so it completely changes the balance.


A straight port of Halo onto the PC is going to play very differently than on Xbox.

 

[Joyful]

so i can play halo 5 multi and make maps on pc for free am i reading this right

 

[rakkadakka]

Meh.

Give me the campaign or GTFO.

343 is doing you a solid by not giving you the SP.

Sorry stinkles.

 

[Trup1aya]

so i can play halo 5 multi and make maps on pc for free am i reading this right

Yup

 

[01DragonFly]

nice, cant wait for new content.
Join Team Frankie Spartan Company

 

[Joyful]

Yup

awesome
people really will complain about anything I guess

 

[Trup1aya]

awesome
people really will complain about anything I guess

This is Neogaf lol

 

[Fata1moose]

awesome
people really will complain about anything I guess

Keep in mind there's no MM, so the multiplayer is just customs.

 

[curiouscharles]

Halo is literally designed around the limitations of the controller.

One of the most important aspects of Halo’s weapon balance is the varying levels of aim assist and bullet magnetism. When using a mouse you obviously don’t have those so it completely changes the balance.


A straight port of Halo onto the PC is going to play very differently than on Xbox.

agreed.

obviously kb/m is typically highly preferable to a gamepad for shooters, but Halo's gameplay feels entirely designed around the limitations / functionality of a gamepad.

which is why i always found Halo:CE on Windows, and Halo 2 on Vista... weird?

wish i could have played that Russian Halo online, would have been interesting to see how that played / felt.

 

[Poimandres]

Man, this sounds awesome! Halo multiplayer on PC, for free, with buliding tools? Yes, thank you very much.

 

[veloxStrix]

Yeah I don't really agree with these thoughts. I think it's really just them taking advantage of the new cross platform infrastructure to ad a feature people have been asking for for the better part of a decade.

Frankie all but said that Halo 6 was coming to PC at some point.

 

[derFeef]

I would have loved to see Warzone Firefight on PC but this is neat for sure. I can see why this is the most feasible thing to do for them though.

 

[Widge]

Halo is literally designed around the limitations of the controller.

I've encountered a few games on PC that have felt like this, moreso in recent years with the cross platform climate. And I have absolutely no beef with that at all. With my PC being my front room machine, quite happy to move to a non-keyboard bound future.

 

[FyreWulff]

uh, dude, i'm a PC gamer since the late 80s, i know a kb/m is better.

just not Halo, on PC it's always felt "wrong" with a kb/m, game has always just been designed around a controller and has always felt "right" that way for me.

obviously you're allowed to disagree, just statin' me wee' old opinion.

edit: and despite me feeling it feels "right" with a gamepad, i still feel handicapped with a gamepad somewhat - always have, always will.

Same here. Especially Halo 2 PC, it just "felt" so much better with the gamepad than KBAM. Even though I'm just fine in every other PC FPS with KBAM.

Problem with KBAM is close quarters is kind of shit with it and most other PC shooters avoid close quarters..

 

[Lichter]

The remake of Haven looks really nice (and finally a file browser!).

 

[Storm360]

Same here. Especially Halo 2 PC, it just "felt" so much better with the gamepad than KBAM. Even though I'm just fine in every other PC FPS with KBAM.

Problem with KBAM is close quarters is kind of shit with it and most other PC shooters avoid close quarters..

Halo 2 PC felt better with a controller because it featured huge autoaim when you switched to a controller. I assume M/KB will feel fine if they remove that.

 

[aeolist]

halo and halo 2 only felt weird on kbam because they did a shit job adding that control scheme, there's nothing inherent to the game that makes it feel like ass when you're using a mouse to aim

 

[Ghandi]

WAIT

To use on forge on PC and play customs I need a xbox Live Gold Membership, dont I?

 

[wwm0nkey]

WAIT

To use on forge on PC and play customs I need a xbox Live Gold Membership, dont I?

No

 

[jem0208]

halo and halo 2 only felt weird on kbam because they did a shit job adding that control scheme, there's nothing inherent to the game that makes it feel like ass when you're using a mouse to aim

CE with a mouse felt absolutely fine.

Doesn’t change the fact that the game is designed around a controller and will play very differently on PC.

 

[kraspkibble]

i hope it won't be too difficult getting into games. i regret selling my XB1 and i'm not prepared to buy another yet just for Halo. i tried halo online but just didnt feel right. i really believe Halo 5 has the best gameplay.

 

[Ghandi]

No

Phew! Time to hype up my 360-traitor friends

PS: http://www.gamespot.com/articles/no-you-don-t-need-to-pay-for-xbox-live-on-windows-/1100-6425744/
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