TheBanditKing
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Pretty much this. They made more money porting their games to PS3 then actually developing a new title on 360 or Wii so why bother.
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Hideo Baba: Namco in very early phases of Tales for PS4, no plans for Xbox titles
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Pretty much this. They made more money porting their games to PS3 then actually developing a new title on 360 or Wii so why bother.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
The one that's coming up is ps3, he's probably talking about the one after that, which would be ps4(2015). At that point, cross gen would be pointless.
It's Tales. The answer is no. They don't do multiplat titles.
Don't expect the next one to be cross gen either. It'll be PS3 exclusive. Their PS4 title will be exclusive as well.
Dead Prince
Banned
why? by the time it does come out you will already have one.
Black Door
Banned
Have Fujishima and Inomata change the colors on the guys' clothes and the hairstyles on the chicks, and Sakuraba buttdial a soundtrack in 20 minutes and you've got game
LiquidSolid
Member
95% of their sales would come from the PS3/4 anyway, so there's no point bothering with a port.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
Japanese games (unless they are aimed at the west) don't need to be multiplatform.
While true ,one can also argue that Having DQ on a console would help against said tepidness.
The NSA needs more information about Japan/s
But no, I seriously believe Microsoft is interested but I wouldn't trust them to make anything themselves for the region.
So yes, we'll see more stupid decisions, more devs making great games and getting burned and once again MS will have failed and made the world a worse place by hogging a few games.
They did? Kosuke Fujishima worked on ToS and ToV as well as Xillia. Mutsumi Inomata (Graces, Destiny, Eternia, etc.) did as well.
The character designs are just fine, but suit yourself...
Which console Tales isn't 4 player these days?
Very true. The only JRPG's that Xbox platforms will be getting from now on, are big budget titles like Final Fantasy XV & Kingdom Hearts III.
Anything else otherwise, will most likely be PS3/PS4 exclusive.
He didn't say anything about a new game heading do PS4. He said only "Dragon Quest will come back to PlayStation console. So it can be PS Vita with port of DQ X or some kind of remake.
Castef
Banned
"Tales of" games are usually far from being hardware-heavy in terms of graphics and so on.
So, I guess that developing for both PS4 and Xbox One (and PC?) would be not so expensive. Then you can go retail and DD on PS4 and, who knows? DD only on PC and Xbox One?
Three markets instead of one, more money and so one.
I mean, it is not that Final Fantasy XIII on Xbox 360 sold few copies. It sold less than the PS3 version, yet it sold good numbers (and that's why the saga continued on that machine and KH3 joined her).
Also... are we so sure that Vesperia sold so bad in the west when compared to Xillia?
ZombiePlatypus
Member
Maybe we'll get an up-ported PS4 version down the line.
Castef
Banned
And why should'nt them be aimed at a west audience too?
This seems just short-sighted from NamcoBandai's side.
Square Enix, From Software and other japanese devs understood this long time ago.
I hope Namco is / are planning to release the game in the West, because otherwise... them announcing it for just one platform doesn't spell multiregional release. I hope to be wrong on that, I enjoy these games, just not with Japanese texts TBH (I don't mind Japanese voices though).
Huh?
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
No not really, from makes since but I don't think that FF and KH is going to sell anything on the box. It's just there because it's there.
It didn't. The Tales ports and Xillia games just did very very well on PS3 in Japan, the only region that matters when they make platform decisions.
Castef
Banned
What do you mean with that? I mean, FF ALREADY sold well on a Xbox console.
ZombiePlatypus
Member
They should just focus on making good games and sticking to what they excel at instead of forcing sensibilities that they don't really identify with. The only reason some of SE's western output has been successful was cause of Eidos. Efforts outside of that that tried to be western have been, for the most part, complete garbage.
Castef
Banned
Exactly. That's why I think Namco Bandai is short-sighted.
Ignoring the western market - or considering it so heavily an afterthought - is not that wise, expecially now that you can even approach it with just digital delivery, containing your production efforts.
Heck, they even opened a new Vancouver studio.
I am not sure they develop two Tales at the same time now, since teams merged.
Don't give it for granted. I don't plan on getting a new console in a really long time.
SolidSnakex
Member
I'm not sure either of those are a good example. Just look at the shape Square is in now. And the Souls games are the only games that From makes that have appeal to the west. Armored Core isn't popular in the west and they don't even release the ACE games here.
TC McQueen
Member
The problem is that lots of Japanese entertainment executives don't get the western market and don't try to, so they just doubled down on the Japanese one instead of doing simple things like making PC ports or doing text only locatlizations. That has changed a bit in recent years, but the problem is that few executives outside of Sony seem to get that they're in a global economy and basically handle things the way they've done it since the 1990s.
gundamkyoukai
Member
Well devs like GUST and NIS i feel will move over very fast .
Most other old school jrpgs seem dead so who knows what going to happen to them .
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
FF did aight on Xbox but that because of PS3's failure that kinda makes since. I don't think that will be the case this gen, I think it could do decently enough to warrant a port but the PS4 version is going to absolutely annihilate it in sales. And FF is the biggest RPG in the world, tales is niche in comparison. I think XB1 support for japanese games are going to be very low.
Yes, we aren't getting Tales of Xilia 1 and 2 or ToS HD. Damn those single platform releases!
Spieler Eins
Member
Well, then I hope they make the game look like ToS and ToV again. I mean, they had some dumb character designs in those but at least they weren't so painfully generic/modern animu on top of that. The main dude and girl in Xillia are just unbearable for me :/
Castef
Banned
Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts going multi-platform is not a good example in this context?
Also, Dark Souls sold well on all the platforms in the west and even got (lazily...) ported on the PC.
They seem to me good examples of japanese publishers/developers having good success in Japan while embracing a multiplatform strategy in the west.
Japanese developer are understanding there isn't much of a market if you are not final fantasy or metal gear. Look at arc system work not bothering with a 360 version of the newest blazblue
heh not so expensive you say. They still need to make their environment work on another piece of hardware they would still need that manpower to port from one system to another. Not saying they are broke, they aren't but is it really fiscally responsible of them to do it? Perhaps. They can also polish one version of the game and gain even more goodwill from the majority of their fanbase.
Anyway, we need Shiina
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggTVedBexQ8
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
Dark souls is so western to the point where people think it's a wrpg instead of a jrpg. FF and KH are huge and it makes since for them to be multiplat. FF and KH aren't going to sell shit on XB1 though(IMO).
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
70%- 80% of sales form a Tales game comes form Japan. None of the franchises you've mentioned are remotely similar contexts.
Great news, it's always good to know that they are already planning a Tales game for next gen, and of course it was going to be for the PS4.
But just to be clear, Baba is talking about the next next Tales game, right? Zestiria (or whatever the name of the next one will be) is going to come out for PS3, or do you think they changed it to be a cross-gen title?
But just to be clear, Baba is talking about the next next Tales game, right? Zestiria (or whatever the name of the next one will be) is going to come out for PS3, or do you think they changed it to be a cross-gen title?
Yeah, PS4 Tales will probably take a while till its ready. I am guessing Zestiria (or whatever) will be next year on PS3.
gundamkyoukai
Member
It's not short sighted tales sell like 250k to 300k max in the NA .
Not certain how much it sell in EU either way it makes no sense to port a game to get a extra 30 to 50 k in sales .
It makes sense to port FF and KH since they sell so much and still the PS4 version going to out sell X1 even more this gen .
They might if Drakengard 3 is wildly successful, though its not looking likely
good to hear they're working on ps4 already, I hope they get Zestoria west quickly and not a year+ into ps4s life
OffTopicish
Seriously, what's wrong with Drakengard? Is the theme really that hard to swallow? Is the "Puritan" country not a myth? Sure the second game wasn't all that hot. Can barely remember it other than it was just an "ok" game.
OnTopic:ish I like Baba. just wish vita Tales made it west as well. ha I think I would even buy their mobile games.
ZombiePlatypus
Member
Yeah, repeating that mistake will just be shitty for both Namco and the fans.
hydragonwarrior
Member
No mention of Wii U... I guess RPG wise we're stuck with X and Fire Emblem.