While I agree with you on a personal level, I completely understand how the download would feel like a non-seeded torrent to some. Especially in the US.
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"Holy...80 gigs??"
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While I agree with you on a personal level, I completely understand how the download would feel like a non-seeded torrent to some. Especially in the US.
Jaded Alyx
Member
Super Mario 3D World is tiny but can last a very long time and has supreme replayability. It's also one of the best games of the generation. I just don't understand your thinking at all.
On Vita FF7 takes about about 1.5GB and Vagrant Story takes up 92mb
Those discs were like 95% FMV
But that's a lot for SSD's
Yes. I have 100Mbs download speed and a 250GB monthly cap. It fucking sucks. Every single month my spouse and I fight about data usage. We have to ration it out to 8GB per day (4GB per person) and that is nothing. That's 1 hour of watching video per person, for fuck's sake. Any household that has 2 tech-loving people is going to naturally go well over that.
And you can kiss downloading AAA games goodbye. I wish that the PS4 let you save games to a harddrive and then move them between PS4s. We have 2 in our household and having to download 2 copies of a 40GB game... welp, there goes 32% of our cap in a single day. Means we have to go 10 days without using any internet to balance that out.
The worst part is the cable company won't let us pay more for just a cap increase. If I wanted to switch from a 250GB cap to a 500GB cap the monthly bill would go from $55/month to $105/month because they give me extra download speed when 100Mbps is already more than enough.
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
I am so sorry.. You have my condolences.My internet speed here in Ohio:
LordRaptor
Member
Nothing makes me feel like a developer really cares than multiple gigs of prerendered videos at a lower resolution than an in-engine cutscene would have been and uncompressed voice over assets in French / Spanish / German because Yurop
My internet speed here in Ohio:
You are the 7%!
Revolutionary
Member
I had that feeling, yeah. But I was 11 years old at the time.
Now that I know that audio/video take up at least 70% of data, when I see something like a 80gb file size, all that comes to mind is "wow, that's a lot of prerendered video".
It's not the HDD size, or the DL speeds that's the issue. If I buy a game, I want to play it. It's that simple. In the era of huge sized DL's for games, I'd prefer to buy physical and maximize space for the crazy sized patched on day one (that add up over time) on my HDD. If I have to delete anything, I'd rather the install than the actual download; just in case I ever want to play the game again.
I understand it's the nature of the beast with gaming and all, but not all areas of the world has caught up with technology, or at least on equal footing. I fear 4k will be a thing, and DL sizes will triple! Meanwhile you have people who are offered, still, outdated internet packages because their provider can't get with the times.
It will be an interest next couple of years.
I understand it's the nature of the beast with gaming and all, but not all areas of the world has caught up with technology, or at least on equal footing. I fear 4k will be a thing, and DL sizes will triple! Meanwhile you have people who are offered, still, outdated internet packages because their provider can't get with the times.
It will be an interest next couple of years.
So you are the reason FF15 got delayed. Great.My internet speed here in Ohio:
When I saw the Gears 4 50 to 80 gigs requirement i started drooling. I love it!!! Something about installing a game that requires 50+ gigs of space makes me feel like I'm really getting my money's worth.
Is this a subliminal psychological sort of thing? The more gigs the better. HDDs are so big now anyway so what's 80 gigs really? It sucks for those in AU and other bandwidth capped countries but here in 'Murica...MOAR GIGS! Who agrees?
mysocksarepink
Banned
When I saw the Gears 4 50 to 80 gigs requirement i started drooling. I love it!!! Something about installing a game that requires 50+ gigs of space makes me feel like I'm really getting my money's worth.
Is this a subliminal psychological sort of thing? The more gigs the better. HDDs are so big now anyway so what's 80 gigs really? It sucks for those in AU and other bandwidth capped countries but here in 'Murica...MOAR GIGS! Who agrees?
i always assumed it was due to poor optimization and compression
velociraptor
Junior Member
I hope this is sarcasm. I haven't updated my HDD for years, and I don't want to. I'd rather save as much money as possible.
80GB for a game is just silly. I used to think 30GB was bad enough...
80GB for a game is just silly. I used to think 30GB was bad enough...
CyberPunked
Member
When I saw the Gears 4 50 to 80 gigs requirement i started drooling. I love it!!! Something about installing a game that requires 50+ gigs of space makes me feel like I'm really getting my money's worth.
Is this a subliminal psychological sort of thing? The more gigs the better. HDDs are so big now anyway so what's 80 gigs really? It sucks for those in AU and other bandwidth capped countries but here in 'Murica...MOAR GIGS! Who agrees?
It will be 50% pre-rendered cutscenes...
nkarafo
Member
Dear god.Damn that sucks. Just come to The Netherlands.
Can you HDD even keep up with that speed?
Darklor01
Might need to stop sniffing glue
Damn that sucks. Just come to The Netherlands.
Awesome speed! Why does it show that your speed is faster than 99% of the NL?
Demoskinos
Member
I don't know how "more space taken up" equals a better game. Its like when people got excited that FFVII was on three discs. That shit is just a pain in the ass.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
lol...I love it! I never uninstall my PC games. I wanna hit double digit terabytes by 2020. Everything is backwards compatible too.Did you hear that developers? Include a ton of dummy data in your games so thatcan get his money worth.
PS, it's only gonna get worse with Neo and Scorpio if they use 4k assets for games so get used to it!
NoMoreTrolls
Banned
Nope. Big DL sizes were the bane of my existence before I switched internet providers. My old plan was 100meg DL, with a 250Gig cap, and I actually had to avoid downloading too many games in one month. Now I'm on an unlimited Gigabit connection, so I don't really care, but it sucked when a massive game would take hours to download rather than the five to ten minutes it would now.
Forerunner
Member
lol...I love it! I never uninstall my PC games. I wanna hit double digit terabytes by 2020. Everything is backwards compatible too.
You are my new favourite poster.
HandsomeCharles
Member
So much this. When I see the frankly shocking file sizes of modern day console games it makes me feel sick. It reeks of poor asset compression and optimisation, and considering the pitiful amount of storage space that consoles provide (even with the TB+ models with vastly over inflated prices), it's just a disgusting prospect all round .
My Xbox one can hold at most 10 games before I need to start uninstalling stuff to play something new. This process can take anywhere from 10 minutes to an hour.
My Wii U, however, has no such problems and allows me to swap between games in seconds. Which of these was supposed to be more advanced again?
Now, don't get me wrong. I understand that we need to install things nowadays due to read speeds from the blu Ray drives not being fast enough (correct me if I'm wrong). But actual instal footprints of these games should be an incredibly high priority. It's simply not acceptable that I should have to "budget" my storage space for the games I want to play.
The Jackdog
Member
i get that i do.
but again, like take destiny for example. the new expansion is ditching old consoles. the API for LFG stuff no longer works for old consoles.
Kinda....too bad right? Like thats how the industry works.
Meh, 80 gigs isn't a lot.
I've got 2.5TB on my Xbox one (174 games installed too) and 3.5TB in my PC (200+ games installed).
Might need to grab a 4+TB for my X1 here soon. Not a big deal. It will take me a while to download it, but no data caps.
People should be reaming their ISP if they have caps. Go after them on Instagram/Twitter/Facebook, etc. Caps are all on them.
I've got 2.5TB on my Xbox one (174 games installed too) and 3.5TB in my PC (200+ games installed).
Might need to grab a 4+TB for my X1 here soon. Not a big deal. It will take me a while to download it, but no data caps.
People should be reaming their ISP if they have caps. Go after them on Instagram/Twitter/Facebook, etc. Caps are all on them.
Jaded Alyx
Member
We have SSDs.
Do people have these HDDs or why are they wondering that games get bigger?
Either you bitch about blurry textures or about the file size. What?
Yeah, nothing to drool anout.
In many cases is a bunch of redudant data or the same data copied a few times.
Very few teams actually clean the entirety of it after developement to reduce/free up size.
lifeexpectancy
Member
Yes. Our internet is not as great as people in some urban centers want to believe. In fact, there are many countries worldwide with better internet infrastructures than us. The regional monopolies that are continuing to be allowed to exist are a major factor in why our internet has been so slow to increase max speeds and get rid of bandwidth cap.
If comcast has their way "internet as a utility" will become a reality, and EVERYONE here will be paying out the nose.
But since so many Americans are delusional and think USA automatically equals the best, we languish in mediocrity.
PeskyToaster
Member
OPs avatar unsettles me for some reason. I just can't look at it. Time to change it.
killatopak
Member
Heh.
And a lot of people wanted to have an all digital future.
They never did think for people with data caps or slow as heck internet. Glad that discs are still a thing.
But if this game has a day 1 patch as big as the game I'm gonna go kill myself. The time spent downloading that patch would have been longer than me playing it.
OP: FFXIII had a whopping 30+ gb iirc. That was last gen too. The big part of it was because of CGI. This might be the case for Gears as well. Size doesn't matter in the quality of the game.
And a lot of people wanted to have an all digital future.
They never did think for people with data caps or slow as heck internet. Glad that discs are still a thing.
But if this game has a day 1 patch as big as the game I'm gonna go kill myself. The time spent downloading that patch would have been longer than me playing it.
OP: FFXIII had a whopping 30+ gb iirc. That was last gen too. The big part of it was because of CGI. This might be the case for Gears as well. Size doesn't matter in the quality of the game.
Clearly you don't.
Not sure haha, Maybe some tech business are even faster. But this is i think the max really what a normal person can buy.
My internet speed here in Ohio:
I know that feeling breh.
Hang in there, your suffering will end, just like mine.
Me too, and?