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How can 20 dollar budget CW do a better Flash costume then the JL? Spoilers
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MHWilliams
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I don't necessarily think the CW version is great, but in no way is the film version good design.
Flash and Cyborg are the design missteps of the DCEU. Superman could use some tweaking. Batman, Wonder Woman, and Aquaman are great.
I kinda like the JL costume. i think it will look great in motion
A better costume would've looked the same in motion. The film visualization of the Flash's powers is quite cool. That doesn't actually make the design better.
That's leagues better, but still looks a bit awkward
Affleck is the only dude so far to pull off a mask.
Discotheque
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Well naturally since he has the strongest "comic book" face for it. But even he looks awkward a few times during BvS (see dash riprock avatar)
Keep in mind they usually have to use heavy CGI once or twice each episode, on a significantly lower budget than other hero shows.
What they lack in quality they make up for in quantity. Most of the time.
PanSexual_Peacock
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Keep in mind they usually have to use heavy CGI once or twice each episode, on a significantly lower budget than other hero shows.
What they lack in quality they make up for in quantity. Most of the time.
Is that unfinished?
MHWilliams
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Nope. TV show budget CGI.
Sometimes it works:
but, human figures always look off.
Flash's budget is in the neighborhood of $2-3 million per episode. So $66 million per season. Justice League's budget is on par or more than Batman v Superman, which was $250 million.
Subpar Spatula
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Keep in mind they usually have to use heavy CGI once or twice each episode, on a significantly lower budget than other hero shows.
What they lack in quality they make up for in quantity. Most of the time.
DeathBattle did a Doomsday vs Jay Garrick match?
Transistor
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That CW one looks like some Halloween costume shit
roflwaffles
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CW looks fine for a CW budget. I always thought the Flash would look dumb in real life so I don't mind how this looks.
JL looks like a power ranger mixed with a transformer though.
JL looks like a power ranger mixed with a transformer though.
Astral Dog
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It was Cyborg,Cyborg was the bad one
Razgriz-Specter
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I don't know what the fuck people expect on not only a tv budget but a CW budget.
I'd rather they do cool stuff with bad CG than playing safe within budget.
RiverShell
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Those both look awful. One looks cheap while the other is busy and overdecorated, hard to say either looks better
Wow, lol
Wow, lol
Gordon Shumway
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lol
That's mean but it's definitely affecting people's opinions, plus general negativity on the Snyderverse. The CW costume honestly simply looks cheap as hell. That Reverse Flash thing people keep posting is just an ugly-ass monstrosity.
Personally I have no love for tradition or have any stakes in the Flash character, so the JL suit looks fine to me. Could be sleeker around the shoulders but I don't mind all the detail it has.
George Oscar Bluth II
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If they gave him the white eyes, there'd be less awkward moments. It's just weird watching Batman with big brown eyes shining in the darkness.
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People will point at Deadpool and spiderman for why that works but man I have a feeling he would look hilarious with the white eyes. Something about seeing the partial face and the white eyes that makes me imagine something real goofy if done in film. I feel like it only works that way if the whole face is covered
I'm sure theyve tried the white eyes in preproduction
George Oscar Bluth II
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I think it would work. Make the eyes of the cowl narrower and put in the white lenses. Would do wonders for scenes in the dark where you see his silhouette and his eyes glinting.
Discotheque
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Thats where it would be amazing. It's the shots in visible lighting where I think it's hard to pull off
But yeah the scenes during the night and in the shadows with a white eyed batman...whew.
MHWilliams
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Has nothing to do with tradition. The problem isn't that it's armor, or that it diverges from previous Flash costumes. The character has a long history of wildly-different designs. The design is just too busy. Too many varying colors, too many lines that convey nothing about the character and his powers. I think there was certainly a way to get at the design they have there without tripping over itself.
What we've seen isn't it.
In the grand scheme of things, whatever. Flash looks to be one of the better visualized characters from a powers standpoint and enjoyable characters characters from an actor standpoint. It'll be fine.
But no, it's not a good design.
Jest Chillin
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Some of the CW gifs in here look worse than they do live. Although I haven't seen anything from the Flashpoint season onward, so I don't know about those more recent ones.
Still, the suit from the movie is horribly over-designed. I really don't get why they went with that. Cyborg also looks overdone, so it seems to be something up with the design team.
Still, the suit from the movie is horribly over-designed. I really don't get why they went with that. Cyborg also looks overdone, so it seems to be something up with the design team.
George Oscar Bluth II
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Now I'm wishing I had a Batman cowl handy just to see if it would work or not.
Rumblebones
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JL Flash suit ain't great but lol @ the fact you think that ass tier CW show costume looks better though.
MHWilliams
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CW CGI stuff is cheap and usually not meant to be seen over and over again. It gets the job done, but no, you're not supposed to focus on it.
Jest Chillin
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Sure. It's not bad for network tv. At least most of it. I just meant some of those gifs look grainier than it is live.
True.
That is also true.
JL suit looks much better. I still prefer Zoom's suit though.
I remember in the old days when CGI was new, people kept saying it would replace practical effects because it would be cheaper as everything is done on a computer. $2-3 million per episode? Wow.
Precisely. It would be lying if I said it looked good live, but it usually looks good enough in context.
GuessMyUserName
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JL's design is just a mess. CW's design is fine, it's just made super cheap. Do the CW design with JL budget and you've got something good.
I'm not gonna give JL a point just because it got money behind it. They lost their damn minds with that weird mech transformers piece of trash and that's the whole point of a design. CW wins.
I'm not gonna give JL a point just because it got money behind it. They lost their damn minds with that weird mech transformers piece of trash and that's the whole point of a design. CW wins.
The reason Grodd and King Shark look so good is because the visual effects team get advance notice and they put in extra hours to get them looking stunning because they care. Budget is only half the equation, they turn these episodes around in a few months. You can throw all the money you want at something but time is still limited.
That's still on the cheap side for network.
That's still on the cheap side for network.
Net_Wrecker
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CW looks like a TV outfit, but it looks like The Flash.
JL looks like a pair of Lebrons had a baby with an Iron Man suit.
CW wins.
JL looks like a pair of Lebrons had a baby with an Iron Man suit.
CW wins.
My thoughts. CW Flash design would look incredible with an actual budget. The JL design is pure trash.
Perfectly put.
"We've for the budget-might as well use it! Let's add some thick armor and big shoulder pads."
beyond_death
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Best post in the thread imo.
paragonpro
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Nah, im in tbe same boat, has a cool homemade look to it
Yup, I'm sure that's exactly what they thought
BadAss2961
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Dat Sega Saturn era CGI.Keep in mind they usually have to use heavy CGI once or twice each episode, on a significantly lower budget than other hero shows.
What they lack in quality they make up for in quantity. Most of the time.
Pretty much why I stopped watching. Looks like I'm not missing out on much.
GuessMyUserName
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... Are you sure you don't have JL/CW mixed up here? The main complaint about the CW outfit is that he looks like any cosplayer at a con.
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