family_guy
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There's nothing to tell. You die. Nobody knows what happens after.
You're going to talk about the concept of heaven, or tell them that it actually exists and that's where people go when they die? If the latter, I have to ask why. And at what point do you tell them you were intentionally lying to them about all of it?
Star dust to star dust.
It's wierd, but I find it illogically comforting that the things that make me up were born in the celestial furnace of a star, and that's where some of it will end up again.
Atheist societies are stupid. Gathering together in non-belief doesn't make sense to me
I don't believe in any religions or gods so I guess I'm technically an Athiest. My belief is that when you die, everything goes black and thats it. You are kept alive in the memories of your loved ones. Since when you die, you're dead, I just do my best to be happy every day and to improve my life as much as I can.
Atheists are the minority on the planet, so gathering together makes sense.Atheist societies are stupid. Gathering together in non-belief doesn't make sense to me
I don't believe in any religions or gods so I guess I'm technically an Athiest. My belief is that when you die, everything goes black and thats it. You are kept alive in the memories of your loved ones. Since when you die, you're dead, I just do my best to be happy every day and to improve my life as much as I can.
Death is natural. Everything ends at some point. I'm fine with it.
The universe is mind bogglingly vast and complex. I'm happy I'm here at all.
The latter.
Well I'm not going to tell them "The fact that nothing lasts forever makes life all the more precious. " because I believe that's a crock of shit. The alternative would be telling them it's all meaningless since we die because that's what I believe. God, I hope they never think that. I certainly would never at any point tell them that. I would hope they go through their whole lives believing the opposite of that. Nor would I tell anyone I care about that when they're experiencing a loss.
As a new(ish) father and an atheist, I haven't really considered how I would approach this.
Apart from echoing other's sentiments about living this life to the fullest, I would approach death probably like this:
"Do you remember what it felt like before you were born? Did it hurt? Exactly. It will be like that."
...or maybe this if my son is older:
"The energy that came together to make you will spread out once again and become part of the rest of the world\universe"
Atheist societies are stupid. Gathering together in non-belief doesn't make sense to me
I don't believe in any religions or gods so I guess I'm technically an Athiest. My belief is that when you die, everything goes black and thats it. You are kept alive in the memories of your loved ones. Since when you die, you're dead, I just do my best to be happy every day and to improve my life as much as I can.
Atheist here, still going to tell my children about heaven. It's a good lie, like Santa Claus. I'm glad I had that comfort as a child. I wish I was still capable of believing in a afterlife as an adult.
I always remember that humans have been on this earth (and universe) for a very small fraction of time.
So what happen to all the species before us who died? Especially if they were intelligent? If heaven doesn't discriminate, we should be seeing lots of dinosaurs and insects when we get there.
Hell, even trees should be in heaven. They're alive as well and capable of dying.
I was going to disagree about it being difficult but then I realized I never bought the god thing or believed in an afterlife so I guess I was never a believer or had the trouble you say believers had when coming to terms with it just being game over.Raising a non-religious kid here. We've had a few chats about death, especially around the death of my grandmother, and to us death is just the end. There's nothing more to it. If you aren't starting from having believed in an afterlife beforehand, there's nothing especially scary about there not being an afterlife. That's just the way things are. This is one area where I think it is much harder to have been a believer and later become atheist than it is to have always been atheist.
Czech person here. The country is quite non-religious. Death is sad because that's that. Nothing else to say about it. The only approach to a kid freaking out about death is to tell them something along the lines of "you're so young. You don't even have to worry about that."
What are you going to say if the kid asks how you go there?
I've found it comforting that in a way I won't be completely gone. Yes my body and mind will be dead, but my energy isn't destroyed. "I" will simply move on into something else.
Who does this? Every atheist gathering I've ever heard of is about finding solidarity in shared values. Humanism is the foundation, in a lot of cases.Atheist societies are stupid. Gathering together in non-belief doesn't make sense to me
I don't believe in any religions or gods so I guess I'm technically an Athiest. My belief is that when you die, everything goes black and thats it. You are kept alive in the memories of your loved ones. Since when you die, you're dead, I just do my best to be happy every day and to improve my life as much as I can.
I've found it comforting that in a way I won't be completely gone. Yes my body and mind will be dead, but my energy isn't destroyed. "I" will simply move on into something else.
Do the second one. I had panic attacks for years when I first became an atheist because what was the point of living if my entire being was going to shut off one day? What if I went to sleep and died in my sleep?
Related note: I had some wicked insomnia for years until I came to my current mindset (which is that philosophically I'm a mentalist and by conservation of matter and energy I don't believe my consciousness will disappear).
This was always weird to me. Are you just the matter that composes your body? If so, are you proud of all the dead skin and bodily waste you leave behind on a daily basis? Or is this energy of "you" only released upon death?
Heh I'm just thinking back to my own childhood. I think there was one time when I freaked out over my mortality. I was probably 8 or so. I know my mom comforted me about it. Can't say she had some great speech or anything. Just let it pass and I was back to being a kid the next day. I don't think there is anything she could have done regardless other than just being a good mom. To be honest if I felt like thinking about it there would have been nothing she could have done to stop me.Oh man, I really hate that :/ Just talk to the kid like a person, I don't think saying "you don't need to think that" necessarily stops them thinking about that.
They both work for me, but I guess the second is more comforting to a child.
And I should clarify I'm not a new atheist, just a new father. ;-)
There is nothing to fear in death because one does not experience death. Death is the ending of all experience. It is the final bits of life that might suck.
Also if anyone asks the question of "where do we go when we die" I always liked "when you blow out a candle, where does the flame go?" response.
Elephants gather. Hell, I've seen pigeons gather. Do they have religion?
Atheists are the minority on the planet, so gathering together makes sense.
There is plenty to believe in for an atheist: believe in mankind's potential for good, believe in love's ability to triumph over hatred, believe in continually building a better world, believe in acquiring and spreading more advanced knowledge towards a deeper understanding of the universe, believe in broadening our horizons as well as redefining what it means to be alive.
Who does this? Every atheist gathering I've ever heard of is about finding solidarity in shared values. Humanism is the foundation, in a lot of cases.
You're deriding a strawman.