RealityCheque
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Echoing what was said before. They're basically x86 PCs, a lack of BC would essentially mean that MS or Sony didn't put it in there on purpose.
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How mad will you be if the PS5/XB2 don't play PS4/XB1 games?
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Slightly annoyed... I had to hold onto my 360 longer than I wanted to... I still had games on it that I wanted to play with my friends namely GTAV and PVZ... So I had to video game boxes under my TV instead of one and had to switch between them instead of being able to do everything in one place...
More people have upgraded, so I sold my 360...
I'm sure similar situations will arise next gen unless the consoles are BC
More people have upgraded, so I sold my 360...
I'm sure similar situations will arise next gen unless the consoles are BC
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
You can't sell digital console games that have been installed on your system.
ShadowgeistX
Member
This is pretty much how I feel about it. In the end it probably isn't a total dealbreaker if there's no BC, but it's definitely a decently-sized contributor to my purchasing decisions.
MistaPropella
Member
This
AwesomeMeat
PossumMeat
Not at all. I expect not to have backwards compatibility which is why I build my library on PC. For games that I buy on console I just end up selling with the expectation that they are basically useless a few years after the generation ends.
The Albatross
Member
Not a big deal for me, but it'll just mean slower adoption of the consoles for me. If they can play my whole library I'll probabyl adopt the new consoles immediately. If they can't then I'm going to adopt one day, but not right away. If one supports a back catalogue and th eother doesn't, then I will buy that console first.
DagnastyEp
Member
Based on where the Xbox division is right now, and where Phil is taking it, I 100% expect the successor to the Xbox One to have full backwards compatibility with Xbox One, and I also thinks there's a very high chance of it also continuing 360 BC.
For Sony, since the PS4 is x86, I expect the PS5 to also be x86, and think there's a pretty good chance (though not as confident as I am with Xbox) it will support bc with PS4.
At this point in time, I would be quite upset if the I wasn't able to access my current games on a future hardware system. I've been very pleased with the preview of 360 BC on Xbox One. I've also gone 100% digital, when I plug in my "XB2" and login with my account, I want all my owned digital Xbox games to immediately show up for download.
I think both Sony and MS would be heavily incentivized to have BC with the past consoles when launching PS5/XB2. This is the first gen where it's really been feasible to be 100% digital with game purchases (from the start of the gen). A consumer would be faced with: being able to have all your past content ready to play/download vs starting fresh on a new platform.
For Sony, since the PS4 is x86, I expect the PS5 to also be x86, and think there's a pretty good chance (though not as confident as I am with Xbox) it will support bc with PS4.
At this point in time, I would be quite upset if the I wasn't able to access my current games on a future hardware system. I've been very pleased with the preview of 360 BC on Xbox One. I've also gone 100% digital, when I plug in my "XB2" and login with my account, I want all my owned digital Xbox games to immediately show up for download.
I think both Sony and MS would be heavily incentivized to have BC with the past consoles when launching PS5/XB2. This is the first gen where it's really been feasible to be 100% digital with game purchases (from the start of the gen). A consumer would be faced with: being able to have all your past content ready to play/download vs starting fresh on a new platform.
ebullientprism
Member
Between the fact that almost all third party games are getting PC versions and thats where I am buying them, I wouldnt be too miffed. With the exception of 1-2 franchises, neither console make has exclusives that I am too in love with.
dancrane212
Member
I wouldn't be mad but I'd certainly be disappointed. Even though I keep my original consoles I still prefer being able to move my library with me to the new hardware/ecosystem. Having just a couple 360 games on my XB1 that I can play with a better controller and a couple little things like the ability to capture screenshots has been great so far. Not having the feature in the first place didn't stop me from buying the console but I'm happy to see it eventually happen.
I think at least half of the time I put into my Vita was playing PSP/PS1 titles even though I still have multiple iterations of the PSP laying around. To a lesser extent the same goes for original Xbox titles on the 360 (where available). Having everything in one place with minor improvements (such as a 360 controller on OG Xbox games) goes a long way for me.
I think at least half of the time I put into my Vita was playing PSP/PS1 titles even though I still have multiple iterations of the PSP laying around. To a lesser extent the same goes for original Xbox titles on the 360 (where available). Having everything in one place with minor improvements (such as a 360 controller on OG Xbox games) goes a long way for me.
names2hard4you
Member
I mean... I have a PS4 right? Just like now with my PS3. If I ever have a reason to go back, I just plug it in and play. Better than having it catch dust in my closet. So I wouldn't be mad at all.
struggler_guts
Member
I wouldn't care as I'll probably play all the games I want by the end. I'm only salty about not being able to play PS3 games because I wasn't a big fan of the system and I moved a lot. I want to play nier and the HD kingdom hearts games so bad though.
PodcastFips
Member
Not mad at all, I'll keep my PS4 around the same way I do it with my PS3 now.
apieceofstrange
Member
While backwards compatibility is a nice feature in theory, I wouldn't care at all. I still have my PS3 and 360 hooked up and can count the number of times I've booted either of them up in the last 2 years on 1 hand.
Super_Cobra
Member
I know I speak for myself but I buy new consoles to play new games. Not games from last gen. If I wanted to play games from previous gen games then I would keep my old console.
This is where I'm at, still only have a PS3 & Wii U right now, and still have tons to play, the longer it takes me to get to all those games, the cheaper the PS4 and it's games get, I'm in no rush and I'm never without a game I want to play
If I could play PS3 games on PS4 I'd have a PS4 by now
A lot of people not upgrading right away probably resulted in this almost 2 year long cross gen period as well (though it is starting to tail off now)
Seeing as ps4/xbone architecture is x86 based now, not being BC next gen would mean that Sony and MS didn't put it there on purpose rather than what Sony's current situation is right now with the ps3 bc (the architecture being too complex to emulate with PS4's current capabilities). I'm actually still kind of upset at sony for not having implemented ps1/ps2 bc yet as the ps4 is powerful enough to do that, but if the rumors are correct that may be announced soon.
PS4 taught me a lesson.
If Sony official distributor is selling next gen console the highest/2nd highest price in the world, wait a few months and the price will drop a lot.
Expect very small amount of games at the 1st 2 years.
Buy next gen console at the 2nd year!
Don't sell your previous console unless you have to.
If Sony official distributor is selling next gen console the highest/2nd highest price in the world, wait a few months and the price will drop a lot.
Expect very small amount of games at the 1st 2 years.
Buy next gen console at the 2nd year!
Don't sell your previous console unless you have to.
GeordieMark
Member
I agree with this.
It looks like that is the direction MS are going, and where one goes, the other usually follows.
Interfectum
Member
BC is a must going forward. Consoles can't really justify or afford platform resets anymore.
GifGafIsTheBestGaf
Member
Lapidus' Beard
Member
Not at all.
DrROBschiz
Member
Not gonna happen
What would be the point of converting to x86 if they didnt want to avoid costly BC going forward
I would be mindboggled if they went with an architecture that couldnt handle it
What would be the point of converting to x86 if they didnt want to avoid costly BC going forward
I would be mindboggled if they went with an architecture that couldnt handle it
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
Sony can fuck right off if they expect me to own a PS3, PS4, and a PS5 at the same time.
M1ch04c4n0
Banned
Don't hold your breath, Sony and Microsoft found a way to sell people their own shoes and the demographics they cater have happily accepted it ("but, but, definitive edition, man!).
Why let you play a game you already own, when they can sell it to you again, more expensive and hopefully running as it should had in the first place?
Why let you play a game you already own, when they can sell it to you again, more expensive and hopefully running as it should had in the first place?
not mad at all. I've been fine with PS4 and Xbone not having BC, and I haven't used Wii U's or 3DS BC.
looking forward to Bloodborne and Uncharted 4 HD remaster for PS5.
I own a PS1, 2, 3 and 4 at the same time. it's pretty fun =)
looking forward to Bloodborne and Uncharted 4 HD remaster for PS5.
I own a PS1, 2, 3 and 4 at the same time. it's pretty fun =)
That's 3 devices for about two decades of games. While I understand the frustration, for me it's not a big deal in the least.
Pokemaniac
Member
The general lack of BC in the PS4 and, to a lesser extent, Xbone is one of the larger reasons why I don't own either yet. Neither of their libraries is particularly appealing on their own, so I'd need the extra games provided by BC to justify the purchase.
Based on some discussion in the current NX thread, I'm not sure the difference is as big as you think. The general consensus seems to be that matching the PS4/Xbone CPUs with an ARM chip would be a non-issue.
Based on some discussion in the current NX thread, I'm not sure the difference is as big as you think. The general consensus seems to be that matching the PS4/Xbone CPUs with an ARM chip would be a non-issue.
Wuthering_Heights
Banned
Not mad at all.
I'll buy a PS5 to play PS5 games, not PS4 games. That's what I have a PS4 for.
I'll buy a PS5 to play PS5 games, not PS4 games. That's what I have a PS4 for.
Zebra_Parade
Member
I've just assumed the "best" games from previous generations will be remade and remade throughout the ages.
Like some sort of Bradburian tale of digital progeny and natural selection.
Like some sort of Bradburian tale of digital progeny and natural selection.
Will rebuy Bloodborne.
Ploid 3.0
Member
And remasters usually look and play a lot better than a BC game would.
For me I liked BC when I got new systems as a kid. I would have a brand new system and one game. For PS1 to PS2 I was able to sell the console allowing me to get that one game and still be able to play my PS1 games. These days that stuff isn't so useful for me. I can get the new console, keep the old console, and still have PC for pretty games that are not on the new console yet.
Pokemaniac
Member
You need more than similar hardware to have BC in modern hardware. These things also have operating systems to consider as well. Windows doesn't have the BC that it has simply because x86 (really amd64 at this point, but that is backwards compatible with x86) is still the dominant CPU that people run it on. There's a lot of conscious effort that goes into maintaining it at Microsoft.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
I don't see the appeal.
Owning a dozen consoles was a childhood dream, but once I achieved it, I discovered that it takes up way too much space.
BibiMaghoo
Member
1) they don't play them at all - I do not care.
2) they play them but I need to buy them again - pretty annoyed.
This is the issue for me. If there is a means of showing that I own it then I shouldn't need to pay for it again. I rarely used it on PS2 and PS3, and rarely play old games on PC with a few exceptions, so it's no great loss, just a nice feature to have.
2) they play them but I need to buy them again - pretty annoyed.
This is the issue for me. If there is a means of showing that I own it then I shouldn't need to pay for it again. I rarely used it on PS2 and PS3, and rarely play old games on PC with a few exceptions, so it's no great loss, just a nice feature to have.
slavesnyder
Member
I'll deal with it.
Bolivar687
Banned
I would be inconsolable.
It really depends on the lifespan of the console.
Let's take the PS3 as an example, which had a a lifespan of 7 years before the next one came along. I was pretty much done with the library by then and felt satisfied by the end of it. I didn't mind one bit that the PS4 was announced with no BC.
Now the Wii U is kinda different, if the NX comes out next year it'd have a short lifespan with the biggest and best titles like Splatoon, Smash and co being released in the twilight age of the console. I'm not really ready to say bye to it, and BC would greatly help in this case.
So it depends. If the PS5 comes out in a year or two I absolutely want BC. If we get a similarly long and healthy run like the PS3, I don't mind mo BC.
Let's take the PS3 as an example, which had a a lifespan of 7 years before the next one came along. I was pretty much done with the library by then and felt satisfied by the end of it. I didn't mind one bit that the PS4 was announced with no BC.
Now the Wii U is kinda different, if the NX comes out next year it'd have a short lifespan with the biggest and best titles like Splatoon, Smash and co being released in the twilight age of the console. I'm not really ready to say bye to it, and BC would greatly help in this case.
So it depends. If the PS5 comes out in a year or two I absolutely want BC. If we get a similarly long and healthy run like the PS3, I don't mind mo BC.
d00d3n
Member
They won't be backwards compatible, because there is to much money to be made reselling the back catalogue. Personally, I will buy most stuff on PC, and selectively re-buy some console re-releases if I feel like it. No backwards compatibility will make me mildly annoyed, but not exactly mad.
neurosyphilis
Definitely not an STD, as I'm a pure.
Wouldn't care at all. BC is something that's cool for a month or two, then people tend to forget about it. I'll just keep my last gen consoles.