Basically this...I liked B but those hacking bits near the end...mggrrrr...almost stopped playing there because there was a few I could'nt do...
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I'm on Route B of Nier: Automata and I've completely lost interest
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Basically this...I liked B but those hacking bits near the end...mggrrrr...almost stopped playing there because there was a few I could'nt do...
Drillary Clinton
Banned
The story isn't locked behind playthroughs. As much as I don't like the game this is wrong. It's presented as such but it's basically just one playthrough.
People will tell you that the side stuff is important, but it's not.
There's some quests that flesh out NPCs you don't really need to worry about, and there's a quest that foreshadows Ending C/D, but only the most hardcore players care about that stuff.
I recommend going back to the theatre after the boss though. That "side quest" was a blast.
You have been amusing to keep tabs on, because I don't think I've ever seen you have anything good to say about your experience so far, which sucks to read from afar. So I was actually surprised that you came back to finish it lol
I mean, they are optional though, they're not necessary to understanding every little thing. It's just stuff like dark twists, some foreshadowing, Nier 1 fanservice, stuff like that. You won't like, be lost if you don't do them lol
But at the same time, I still obviously need developers to try when it comes to sidequests, I don't want it to be something that I'd tune out, where I don't give a shit about who I'm helping (barring the sidequest offering a good reward of course), otherwise what's the point.
That said, I enjoyed the general gameplay, so that's another factor, but yea, I don't really ever expect much in terms of pure "fun" regarding the sidequests. Even with Witcher 3, which is considered to have the most consistently rewarding ones in terms of narrative, is all stuff that I could easily say can be just as tedious as what Nier and other games have me do.
They're important to the themes but not to the story if that makes sense.
They basically offer new and different viewpoints than the main story on the same topics and build the world of Nier, however, the plot can be experienced in it's entirety through the main story alone.
I can guarantee people like that have clocked thousands of hours into Overwatch or Destiny, yet the moment a single player RPG asks them to repeat a task in a different way, it's suddenly betrayed their trust and their precious time has been stolen.
Conciliator
Banned
I played this and forced myself through the first playthrough, which is like a B-tier platinum game that took itself too seriously with a lame open world and cool music, because it was my understanding that my mind would explode after I started the second. It didn't explode so after a couple of hours into the second playthrough I stopped. It does have some fun ideas though.
EDIT: oh I see, I have to finish it twice, and then my mind will be blown
EDIT: oh I see, I have to finish it twice, and then my mind will be blown
Danjin44
The nicest person on this forum
Yeah to me side quests really add to story.
for example the Quest for 210.
you are gathering data from old world for 210. as she learns about how humans live together as family. Then beginning of Route C 210 starts treating 9S like a child and later on when she gets infected with logic virus you will how 210 wanted have family like human used to have and she saw 9S. has her son.
This is why I just don't really bother with that poster regarding Automata threads, he made a thread where all of this was explained to him repeatedly, but the simple fact is that he just simply never comes in good faith.
RubberLuffy
Banned
I had 36 hours with 83% sidequests. There's a post on GAF (I think it already got shared in this thread) of which sidequests are the best to do. Most of them are their own little self contained stories that reveal a bit about the world, some foreshadow later events.
Professor Beef
Banned
Hacking was fun, but not enough to make me play the game a second time.
No, you need to finish it exactly once, because the thing you describe is not finishing the game.
Blasphemy, 9S best character in the game.
RubberLuffy
Banned
Actually 9S did nothing wrong and is a good boy
Well, people come in with different expectations. If people are experiencing a story repeatedly then that's annoying.
With games like Overwatch and Destiny, it's repetitive but you play the game for that repetition. You know what it is going in. It's only about the gameplay in those games.
I don't know about Automata, but Replicant/Gestalt started with immediate new content for Route B that was better than anything in the first playthrough. There's a boss battle that builds off of that right after that offers you a different perspective. Automata sounds much worse than what Replicant/Gestalt had, so that's sucky.
EDIT: Actually wtf, that comparison makes 0 sense.
killatopak
Member
It's not very important but it fleshes out the story and sometimes alludes you to what will happen in the future. I platinumed the game in 55 hours. That's guideless until the final 5 hours.
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CannonFodder52
Member
You can get through the repeated content in route B in about 2 hours if you plow through it. Plus they give you new ways of dealing with foes and new characterisation for the events of route A.
I think I enjoyed route B as much or more than route A, maybe I'm just weird though.
I think I enjoyed route B as much or more than route A, maybe I'm just weird though.
Conciliator
Banned
wow, what a padded game.
semiconscious
Member
made my way through it (& everything that followed), but didn't really enjoy it. seriously? i think i would've been happy enough just passing on it all after finishing route a 
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...Parmadillo Marshmallow
Member
I did the same thing OP. I really don't like these "play them again but this time slightly different" types of single player games.
Professor Beef
Banned
It's like you don't know what context is
Danjin44
The nicest person on this forum
I also really enjoyed Route B.
Acquiescence
Member
He's not too bad honestly, but what the fuck is he wearing. He looks like a FFXV reject.
RubberLuffy
Banned
I like playing as 9S more than 2B.
Get a good spear, put on some Stun and Combust chips, become as Gods.
Mr.Deadshot
Member
The side-content isn't good, just focus on the main stories. I dashed through most of the game with all endings in under 30 hours. And I normally do most side-quests in RPGs.
iRAWRasaurus
Banned
Same as the OP, but I will rush thro to C due to what people have mention now.
You take that back.
PshycoNinja
Member
He wears shorts for goodness sake!
Automata is not only about story and combat. It takes fantastic use of the fact that it is a game and makes it part of the experience and has so many clever little things that make it so unique(at least for someone who plays Yoko Taro game for the first time like I did).If you can't enjoy and appreciate them (if you even notice), don't force yourself, give your copy to someone that might instead.
Route B might actually be a good indicator of whether you should play further or quit - if after reaching the bunker and meeting 2B you have a big smile on your face because of what's happening - lucky you, since you know how to enjoy what the game does. If not, i think there is no point in playing anymore.
Route B might actually be a good indicator of whether you should play further or quit - if after reaching the bunker and meeting 2B you have a big smile on your face because of what's happening - lucky you, since you know how to enjoy what the game does. If not, i think there is no point in playing anymore.
Hey look. Someone who never touched the game.
Power through b op. Route c is WORTH IT.
He would never agree to be in XV though, not unless 2B was there at least!
Yah that can happen. I enjoyed the game but can understand people's frustrations like yours above.
I would agree with others, just do the main story and skip the side stuff. It's open after the game ends still and isn't really necessary. The game is relatively easy so I wouldn't worry about being under level. The final is actually pretty awesome and worth pushing through if you can .
9S is a GOOD BOI
If that annoys you, hold down R3 + L3 for 3 seconds
If that annoys you, hold down R3 + L3 for 3 seconds
Shorts no more
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
I agree with you in the sense that Route B doesn't go for the emotional jugular that Nier's NG+ does, but they do work on the exact same principle and serve the same function of giving the player a different perspective on things.
There are some pretty big revelations in Route B, its just that the whole situation is a lot more "shades-of-grey" to begin with, so it isn't such a gut-punch.
For me though, there's some absolutely killer stuff in there particularly if you are invested in the whole drakenverse meta-story; The first picture-book harkening back to the "Fire Of Prometheus" short-story in the DOD3 anniversary set is massive for example.
I really think as ruthlessly effective as Nier's NG+ approach was, what Yoko does in Automata shows real creative growth and advancement from it.
Drillary Clinton
Banned
This is a bit of left field comparison but people just get stuck too much on the whole ending thing.
Nier Automata is an exhausting videogame, in more ways than one.
Personally, I hate it. Some people seem to love it to death, though, blemishes and all.
You are comparing apples to oranges here. An online game is dynamic in the way that each match, while you are partaking in mostly the same actions, is extremely different because of the human factor. You could play 1,000 matches and not have an identical experience. In single-player games, this is just not the case. AI gets predictable, mechanics wear out their welcome, and you fall into a similar, tireless routine. Yes, Route B is different mechanically, but it's only different...at first.
Personally, I hate it. Some people seem to love it to death, though, blemishes and all.
You are comparing apples to oranges here. An online game is dynamic in the way that each match, while you are partaking in mostly the same actions, is extremely different because of the human factor. You could play 1,000 matches and not have an identical experience. In single-player games, this is just not the case. AI gets predictable, mechanics wear out their welcome, and you fall into a similar, tireless routine. Yes, Route B is different mechanically, but it's only different...at first.
Danjin44
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I personally like 9S design more than Noctis and Tidus.
Sinh_Magnus
Member
Lost interest half way in? Forcing yourself to play the rest? My advice is to drop it for now. Maybe at some point you will feel inclined to beat the game. There's no point to keep playing a game just to complete it. It will probably leave you a with a bad taste even if you complete it, regardless of how you feel about the story by the end.
And this goes not only with Nier but also pretty much every game out there.
And this goes not only with Nier but also pretty much every game out there.
Yes! I fully agree. His best spear is absolutely amazing as a weapon and hacking can destroy any enemy more quickly than any melee fight could.
If Route B is such a pain for so many, then you could put the game on Easy, equip auto-chips and just mainline the route. That'd be, what? 4 hours, tops?
Well yeah, he's a much better char than anyone in XV. No need to dirty himself.
It's so odd that a big portion of hate for this game is based off of semantics. If Taro would have just called them chapters no one would have blinked an eye.
That's not an extraordinarily high bar.
Chapter 2 of MGSV isn't exactly loved.
Yea I told my friend to start using spears, he's enjoying the game a lot more now.
PshycoNinja
Member
I disagree. I like their designs much more than 9S. And it's not that there are a ton of designs in NieR that are bad (though some are up for debate), it's just 9S just...has a super dumb design.
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