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Infinite Warfare borrow designs from Halo?
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SaganIsGOAT
Junior Member
Tribute? Lol that smoke in the Reach loading screen is the exact same as the Blops 3 picture
shinobi602
Member
A lot of that stuff seems like it's really reaching to me. The ring-shaped space station, the robot that (doesn't) look like the Mantis, etc.
And the video seems a bit dramatic lol. "They're basically just rubbing our noses in the dirt now!" whysoserious.jpg
And the video seems a bit dramatic lol. "They're basically just rubbing our noses in the dirt now!" whysoserious.jpg
"It's a TRIBUTE" is so pathetic of an excuse.
Let's be real here, Call of Duty is no stranger to a lack of creativity and originality. Of course they'd get caught stealing.
Don't worry, it's a homage/tribute.
Salty Rice
Member
Holy shit. Thats some really detailed shit for a "tribute" if even the smoke is the exact same.
Thats some blatant stealing.
Other than the calling card, I don't see anything blatant. Calling them out for having a game mode that's similar to whatever Halo 5's "carry the bomb to place" mode is just ridiculous. Why not call out Destiny and it's Rift mode while you're at it?
Also, the concept of a ring shaped world wasn't invented with Halo.
Also, the concept of a ring shaped world wasn't invented with Halo.
CyberPunked
Member
I feel like the IW is a nod to the Halo one.Loading screen from Reach:
Loading screen from IW:
Did you guys look at the challenge at all?
It's to play the Arena Ranked mode in Black Ops 3. Guess what the ranked playlist was called in Reach? Arena.
So they made a calling card in reference to the Halo Reach Arena mode.
Clearly when Borderlands 2 made it's Dark Souls reference, it was just stealing. Not tributing or referencing.
SEGAvangelist
Member
Lol. Ok. That's pretty bad.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
We want this CONCEPT ART in our game?
Oh come on....
Oh come on....
I mean outside the one smoke looking similar, it's clear it wasn't just stolen and edited. It's clear it was a newly drawn image.
It's meant to be a reference. Could they have made it not so blantly? Yeah. But trying to just make it out to be that they wanted to steal it when based on the challenge it's clearly intentional.
But yeah, clearly they didn't want to reference Halo Reach. They just wanted to steal it. That's why the challenge itself is a reference to Reach. But no, clearly that isn't the case. They were just thieves!
..something as generic as the term "Arena" for a multiplayer FPS mode is sufficient for making something a reference?
..am I missing something here? How does this train of thought then apply to our buddy Jorge or the alt-universe pelican?
Some stuff alone seems reaching in that video, but man is there a lot of stuff which they should know should not be so similar to stuff in their competitor's games.
Oh, I'm sure they wanted to reference Halo Reach. They referenced it by stealing artwork.
CalamityPixel
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SaganIsGOAT
Junior Member
Stealing just the smoke is still stealing. It's not even redrawn, they've literally just added some adjustment layers on top of it. Other parts of the image have been tweaked and modified obviously but don't tell me they redrew everything when they clearly didn't.
First of all, both games had "Arena" used to referring to the Ranked Playlist. That combined with the calling card clearly shows they intended for the calling card to be a reference. Like are we just going to ignore the challenge in combination with the calling card art work?
As for the Pelican, it's a realistic design. Plus if you watch the COD XP SP demo, the interiors are nothing alike. It's also just a generic design regardless. If you search Sci-FI drop ships, you get a lot of images in the same vein. Unless you believe all of those artist also stole them from Halo? We know IW designed a lot of the ships by consulting with NASA and the Military. It's very likely the design was birthed from that.
While the Jorge thing is for sure a bit too close. It's also just again, generic big suited sci-fi soldier. To which, it's not even the default design of the characters. It's an alternative outfit you need to unlock.
Not even redrawn? Did you even look at the two images? You seriously think they added one layer and just tweaked things? There's enough changes you would need to do more than a little bit of tweaking.
Okay I'm starting to think I'm understanding people in this thread now.
Monocle
Member
I'm not sure how anyone can deny the obvious imitation. The IW loading screen looks like the Reach screen was literally overpainted by a crappier artist using the same file.Ill update the OP too:
Jorge from Halo Reach:
Character from IW:
Loading screen from Reach:
Loading screen from IW:
Yep. Shenanigans are afoot.
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The smoke doesn't look similar, it's the same. What is actually clear is that someone at Treyarch actually did simply steal and edit that picture. The smoke is very clear evidence for it. That's not a reference. That's taking another artists work and painting over it. It's like taking another person's movie, cropping out the character's heads, inserting yourself and then call it a "reference". Not how that works.
Also, I'm not sure I'm with you with the whole "reference" thing. "Arena" is not a mode specific to Halo, nor is Halo really known for it. There are many games with "Arena" modes and Halo is simply one of them. The Word "Arena" itself isn't regularly connected to Halo at all. And why would they reference Halo: Reach in a game from 2015? And what's with the armor design, it's clearly very heavily influenced by the Reach design, almost copied at places (same for the Recon Helmet)...why isn't that a reference then?
TheGameshark
Member
Wow that's pretty blatant
DudeWithNoName
Member
Well at least COD doesn't have jetpacks too right?
Monocle
Member
Yeah, not really a tribute with the exact same smoke, and very similar poses, composition, and color palette.
Do people not read or something? The challenge on it's own wouldn't be a reference. It's the combination of the challenge and the art work that make it a reference. How is that hard to understand? I'm thinking people are having trouble understanding that.
No one has trouble understanding it. People just disagree with your argument.
Triggerhappytel
Member
It's not an Infinite Warfare loading screen though, and this misinformation is really muddying the waters.
I just find it funny that even /r/Halo on Reddit even were like: "Oh yeah, it's totally a reference."
And then once that was pointed out, no one had a fuss. Yet everyone here is acting like they committed high treason.
This sort of thing actually happens all the time in the industry, especially when rapid conceptualisation is required, and they want to quickly explore things like mood or colour. However, it really isn't supposed to go beyond that point and become final artwork, getting caught out is pretty embarrassing. Uncharted 4 using Assassins Creed placeholder art comes to mind.
Quadraphonic
Member
Welp... that's it.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
The ring planet or whatever is not from Halo, it has featured in many Syfi films and TV shows pre dating Halo which is where Halo got it from.
The Pelican don't look like the ship from IW either, the Pelican looks like a rip off of the Avengers Quinjet
The bomb game mode was in AW too and its not new to IW, they may have ripped it from Halo but I don't think its the same thing gameplay wise
The Robot from IW looks nothing like the ED-209 rip off from Halo either.
The characters and artwork he has a point, btw that is not a loading screen its a Challenge card in Barracks but those challenge cards always resemble something else.
Ironically the thing he didn't mention was the lineup of your team which Treyach ripped off in BLOPS3 and has returned in IW.
The Pelican don't look like the ship from IW either, the Pelican looks like a rip off of the Avengers Quinjet
which looks the same in the comics too yet again pre dating Halo.
The bomb game mode was in AW too and its not new to IW, they may have ripped it from Halo but I don't think its the same thing gameplay wise
The Robot from IW looks nothing like the ED-209 rip off from Halo either.
The characters and artwork he has a point, btw that is not a loading screen its a Challenge card in Barracks but those challenge cards always resemble something else.
Ironically the thing he didn't mention was the lineup of your team which Treyach ripped off in BLOPS3 and has returned in IW.
Springfoot
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SaganIsGOAT
Junior Member
If I were to just copy and paste portions of articles into college papers turnitin.com would consider me guilty of plagerism. This is why we paraphrase when referencing.
Referencing is not a license to steal
They are not. Although this is what the character normally looks like:
The one in the video is different helmet and body. Although I have no idea if they're from the same set.
Triggerhappytel
Member
While I agree that stealing part of artwork directly is more than just a reference, how do you know MS/343 didn't okay this little easter egg/reference? Maybe Frank O'Connor or Bonnie Ross sent an email to whoever the boss of Treyarch is okaying the use of the image.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
So its Treyach ripping off Halo.
The lineup at the beginning is blatant.
lol.
RowdyReverb
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You can haz recon
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in IW
Well matches in BO3 nor IW begin with showing the characters. It's only at the end in the "Winners Circle", which if your going to damn BO3 for doing. Mind as well damn Rainbow Six: Siege as well, since it does the same thing too.
Winner's Circles are something that will be appearing more often now. Though I think it will be primarily in games with customization that are FPS. Since otherwise in Siege or CoD, you don't actually get to see your character customization still until the end.
AcePartyN7
Member
There is even a Halo Ring:
Ill update the OP too:
Jorge from Halo Reach:
Character from IW:
Loading screen from Reach:
Loading screen from IW:
woah did IW hire somebody from Naughty Dog lol
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