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Infinite Warfare borrow designs from Halo?

NH Apache

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_elevator

It's been a concept since 1895. It's not like Halo popularized that.

Also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_elevators_in_fiction

The UNSA... Yeah it's similar but that's also because both are part of the United Nations. There isn't much else they could have done more so since they don't want to remove all connection to the past. (I.E. UN is a concept right now, therefore it would still exist 110 years from now.)

Also to be fair, Halo itself isn't in the naming. UNSC is a real thing. United Nations Security Council.

In fact...



Guess what game series is this from?

Halo UNSC is United Nations Space Command. The ring was definitively popularized by Halo.

The Jorge ripoff is blatant.
 

Kalentan

Member
Halo UNSC is United Nations Space Command. The ring was definitively popularized by Halo.

The Jorge ripoff is blatant.

I... Yeah I know what the UNSC stands for in Halo. I'm just saying that there is a clear influence from the real UNSC.

Also unless Microsoft actually copyrighted space stations in the shapes of Rings (hint: they didn't, since Halo didn't invent it), Infinity Ward can't steal what isn't owned by any one person.

The Jorge armor isn't even the full set afaik. I believe it's a mix and match. As I've shown before he doesn't look like that normally and his weapon isn't even a chain gun.
 

Kinyou

Member
I'm not sure about Jorge because space marines tend to look similar to that.

The loading screen with everyone being in almost the exactly same position seems pretty blatant though.
 

Kalentan

Member
I'm not sure about Jorge because space marines tend to look similar to that.

The loading screen with everyone being in almost the exactly same position seems pretty blatant though.

I would at least like the OP to edit his post. It's not a loading screen from IW, it's a calling card (one of three hundred), in Black Ops 3.

I mean he could edit it as he himself has acknowledge it, but honestly I just don't think he cares. So instead hate on IW for doing something Treyarch did.

That loading screen though.

Again, not a loading screen, it's also not from IW but from Black Ops 3 and is a calling card. Do... Do people read threads? It's not a very long thread and yet you still have people coming in thinking it's from IW.

Hell, IW literally has ONE type of loading screen in the beta. It's the same thing with just different player names and map names. It appears for three seconds before vanishing.
 

Kinyou

Member
I would at least like the OP to edit his post. It's not a loading screen from IW, it's a calling card (one of three hundred), in Black Ops 3.

I mean he could edit it as he himself has acknowledge it, but honestly I just don't think he cares. So instead hate on IW for doing something Treyarch did.
Ah, ok, it's on TW then. With 300 of those cards I wouldn't be surprised with some artist taking the easy route and no one noticing it.
 

NH Apache

Banned
I... Yeah I know what the UNSC stands for in Halo. I'm just saying that there is a clear influence from the real UNSC.

Also unless Microsoft actually copyrighted space stations in the shapes of Rings (hint: they didn't, since Halo didn't invent it), Infinity Ward can't steal what isn't owned by any one person.

The Jorge armor isn't even the full set afaik. I believe it's a mix and match. As I've shown before he doesn't look like that normally and his weapon isn't even a chain gun.

Who is talking copyright? Are you moving the goalposts?

What does popularized mean in this context?

make (something technical, scientific, or academic) accessible or interesting to the general public by presenting it in a readily understandable form

Millions of people played halo; for a vast majority, the ring concept was introduced to them via the Halo series.
 

Kalentan

Member
Who is talking copyright? Are you moving the goalposts?

Moving goalposts? I don't think you quite understood what I was talking about. The big is that people have been claiming that IW has been stealing stuff from Halo. All I was saying is that the Ring concept isn't copyrighted and has existed for many many years before Halo. Is it possible they were inspired for the map? Maybe? Yet they can't steal what isn't owned by Microsoft (i.e 343i).

If anything they were inspired by the Stanford Torus:
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Which would make sense since the map is called: "Throwback" and there is a little bit of a similarity.
 

NH Apache

Banned
Moving goalposts? I don't think you quite understood what I was talking about. The big is that people have been claiming that IW has been stealing stuff from Halo. All I was saying is that the Ring concept isn't copyrighted and has existed for many many years before Halo. Is it possible they were inspired for the map? Maybe? Yet they can't steal what isn't owned by Microsoft (i.e 343i).

If anything they were inspired by the Stanford Torus:


Which would make sense since the map is called: "Throwback" and there is a little bit of a similarity.

Right, because when you go up to average joe on the street and ask about a giant ring in space that you can walk on, they think Oh yeah, the Stanford Torus.

It's a giant ring in space on a COD map. Either it's an "homage" to Halo or pretty lazy design concept.
 

TGO

Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
All this has done is shown how unoriginal Halo is, probably the biggest backfire I've seen.
And the only legit thing is actually from BLOPS3, not IW.
Wow.
Btw better call those Movie studios, just recently Star Trek and Elysium has stolen from Halo.
I don't know how Larry Niven is gonna feel about being sued by Microsoft


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They wouldn't think Halo lol
 
All this has done is shown how unoriginal Halo is, probably the biggest backfire I've seen.
And the only legit thing is actually from BLOPS3, not IW.
Wow.
Btw better call those Movie studios, just recently Star Trek and Elysium has stolen from Halo.
I don't know how Larry Niven is gonna feel about being sued by Microsoft
God definitely.

Nothing against the game quality, but the whole concept and design of Halo is average sci fi.
 

Kalentan

Member
Right, because when you go up to average joe on the street and ask about a giant ring in space that you can walk on, they think Oh yeah, the Stanford Torus.

It's a giant ring in space on a COD map. Either it's an "homage" to Halo or pretty lazy design concept.

Good to know you missed the point. The point was never if some random joe could recognize what's it inspired by.
 

Arkeband

Banned
Just going to self quote here since nobody seems to look at previous pages:

Your post about Scooby Doo and Mario is kind of stupid when we're comparing artwork that is clearly lifted and painted over - and you're comparing completely original 3D models that while are referencing an IP, aren't stolen assets.

You don't have to self-quote false comparisons.
 
This takes me back to folks accusing James Cameron of copying Halo with Avatar. At least the Ferngully accusations had a leg to stand on.
 
I feel like I'm in the minority here. When I saw CoD was going full space future I was interested and with the new trailer showing the conflict is space independence esque I may even get it.

I don't know if it will be good or handle the story the way I want but come on Halo took a lot from Alien and CoD space juggernaut is looking like a bland design from reach? isn't a sin they are just both similarly bland.
 

Madness

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This takes me back to folks accusing James Cameron of copying Halo with Avatar. At least the Ferngully accusations had a leg to stand on.

Literally using concept art assets (cloud pointed out), slightly changing concept art so it is still 95% similar, aping a lot of the gameplay and character designs means it is a wild accusation. Wtf. Some of you are going crazy trying to defend CoD here. Accept it and move on. It is more likely that the devs were tasked with making a futuristic Halo style shooter with different classes and thought you know what, let's see what Reach did and copied and were inspired from it.

No one is saying the Halo ring world is from Halo. But if you're an FPS that came after Halo and have a ring as a prominent part of the game or part of it, you are going to be side eyed. Just like if someone was to make a game and have something called the Potato Kingdom with a Green Princess named Princess Plum and have warp pipes and piranha plants. I am sure I can google and find obscure works that have plants that come out of pipes before Mario, but they are associated with that no?
 
The designs in CoD are pretty derivative, the designs in Halo are pretty derivative. Ring structures and whatnot are still made to look the art from cover books from decades before, but that banner from IW is plagiarism, literally painted on top.
 
Literally using concept art assets (cloud pointed out), slightly changing concept art so it is still 95% similar, aping a lot of the gameplay and character designs means it is a wild accusation. Wtf. Some of you are going crazy trying to defend CoD here. Accept it and move on. It is more likely that the devs were tasked with making a futuristic Halo style shooter with different classes and thought you know what, let's see what Reach did and copied and were inspired from it.

No one is saying the Halo ring world is from Halo. But if you're an FPS that came after Halo and have a ring as a prominent part of the game or part of it, you are going to be side eyed. Just like if someone was to make a game and have something called the Potato Kingdom with a Green Princess named Princess Plum and have warp pipes and piranha plants. I am sure I can google and find obscure works that have plants that come out of pipes before Mario, but they are associated with that no?

I think its more futuristic space military designs being similar in blandness. Really dont think its "lets make a halo style shooter" I would bet its "lets make a military space shooter" which if halo didn't have the covenant it would be the exact same thing .(Unless IW has a alien race introduced in the story) haven't seen game play of either the newest halo or CoD IW? has Halo lost the shield aspect of gameplay or has CoD added shields?

Would people consider this ok or an homage?

This is just looking at the theorized future of the military by both creators. The army has been theorizing and trying to develop exo-suits to carry heavy supplies and the possible combat functions they can serve long before either came out.
 
I think its more futuristic space military designs being similar in blandness. Really dont think its "lets make a halo style shooter" I would bet its "lets make a military space shooter" which if halo didn't have the covenant it would be the exact same thing .(Unless IW has a alien race introduced in the story) haven't seen game play of either the newest halo or CoD IW? has Halo lost the shield aspect of gameplay or has CoD added shields?
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seeing the more grounded setting, I think if it they add aliens it would be something like The Expanse rather than a talking invading civilization.
 

kuYuri

Member
I think its more futuristic space military designs being similar in blandness. Really dont think its "lets make a halo style shooter" I would bet its "lets make a military space shooter" which if halo didn't have the covenant it would be the exact same thing .(Unless IW has a alien race introduced in the story) haven't seen game play of either the newest halo or CoD IW? has Halo lost the shield aspect of gameplay or has CoD added shields?



This is just looking at the theorized future of the military by both creators. The army has been theorizing and trying to develop exo-suits to carry heavy supplies and the possible combat functions they can serve long before either came out.

I'm more referring to the overall appearance. Both the AW soldier and Matt Damon are in almost the exact same poses.
 
Pretty blatant. Halo isn't totally original but those similarities go beyond visual into poses and atmosphere and the lines look very similar.
 
seeing the more grounded setting, I think if it they add aliens it would be something like The Expanse rather than a talking invading civilization.

You mean the show that ripped of halo!

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Haven't seen the show just a joke.

Joking aside I hope it markets itself as grounded but after mission two Jon Snow Hops in this to fight for the freedom of the spacenoids

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Ofc not lol ;) but obviously Halo popularised them AND regarding the amount of inspiration in this COD took from Halo it's clear that this ring was not put there random.

There is also a space elevator too you know.
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ODST first then COD

Wait...Halo did not create the space elevator rights? (joking of course)
Strange though that all these elements are almost identical to the one in the Halo universe.

Also the Space Marine faction is called UNSA in this Call of Duty, in Halo they are called UNSC.
Something else?
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It's almost as though Call of Duty has only recently been set in the future... Of course a series which has always been set in the distant future will have used these futuristic engineering concepts before a series which has been set mostly in the past and modern times until very recently.
 

Jaeger

Member
Quoting for visibility.

Please read.

Did you?

As people have pointed out:

1. The 'Griffball' mode, Uplink has been in the series since Advanced Warfare.
2. The video says: "Infinite Warfare", when one of the examples given are from Black Ops 3 (That should tell you how much they researched).
3. On the topic of the Rocket Launcher, have you played Doom? The one in Doom 2016 looks nearly identical and as another person posted in the thread, there is real life RPGs that look similar.
4. The robot that you can get from the MP score streak, if you look at the design, it's basically a bigger version of the Synaptic RIG in the multiplayer. Hardly that they looked at Halo for that when it already matches one of their own designs.
5. The Ring station has been around for far longer than Halo has existed and there is a real life science for them. The comparison is weak as the maps themselves look nothing alike.
6. The Pelican design is hardly original itself, having borrowed it's design from Aliens. Not to mention from another post, the Quinjet from Avengers looks like it. It's a realistic design of a drop ship. As they designed the ships and vehicles based off of their interactions with NASA and the military, they most likely designed it off of that.
They're all an evolution of this:

Except the ones in Halo, Aliens, COD, need to actually work in space.


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Whompa02

Member
Absolutely 150% intentional, whether or not that's a good thing, or something that was actually vetted, is another question altogether.

To be it looks too similar to be coincidental. Especially that artwork that is extraordinarily familiar to Halo Reach's concept art.
 
So for the Jorge thing, is it a whole new armor, or is it just recolored old armor to look like Jorge's

Because it kind of reminds me of the way fighting games references characters through different colors. Especially with the way Skullgirls does it

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Kalentan

Member
So for the Jorge thing, is it a whole new armor, or is it just recolored old armor to look like Jorge's

Because it kind of reminds me of the way fighting games references characters through different colors. Especially with the way Skullgirls does it

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I'm 99% sure it's a recolor. Usually when it comes to Specialist/RIGS skins in BO3 and IW, there is various templates and then recolor. You no doubt could find the same skins but in different colors.

It should also be noted it's not the default design.
 
Well you rode it long time Activision. they were able to kill Tony hawk and rock band much more quickly. i'm guessing we see a game or two more in the series and it's finally done at least for a while. Or they just make multiplayer only versions of the game.
 
Those are two totally different models. You can't see that?

Sure, but that doesn't necessarily mean the model itself was made to look specifically like Jorge. They could've made the original model first, then decided to recolor it to look like Jorge for the lolz.

Edit: And even if it does, it doesn't really matter. It's not like they purchased it from the asset store or anything. Kind of a dumb thing to be angry about if you ask me.

Well again this is the original design (the default version every player begins with)



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAi7UR196Bw&feature=youtu.be&t=49

This is how the customization works. Sadly the person decided to not show any of the Quartermaster skins, so it's unclear if the helmet and body that make the 'Jorge' color scheme are even part of the same set or not.

If that's the case, it's kinda like how Borderlands does the head customization system or whatever.
 

Kalentan

Member
Sure, but that doesn't necessarily mean the model itself was made to look specifically like Jorge. They could've made the original model first, then decided to recolor it to look like Jorge for the lolz.

Well again this is the original design (the default version every player begins with)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAi7UR196Bw&feature=youtu.be&t=49

This is how the customization works. Sadly the person decided to not show any of the Quartermaster skins, so it's unclear if the helmet and body that make the 'Jorge' color scheme are even part of the same set or not.
 
Yeah those two examples in the OP look like Halo stuff, but some people in here acting as if Halo is original make me laugh.

EDIT: Seeing the video above I take what I said back because it looks like he was customized to emulate Jorge and as for the other thing it's not even from Infinite Warfare. And the video in the OP is even worse, some mighty big reaching going on there.
 
It's not like there trying to steal or anything, it's just a dumb reference. The intent of the design was to give homage to another design, which Halo does all over the place as well. It's what artists do all the damn time.
 

Kalentan

Member
So going through some videos of the Merc RIG I did find this:

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So the Excavation helmet is the one in the OP. (It should be noted that Green Screen and Bolster are also similar but different color scheme/pattern) However, if you go slightly back in the video...

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The body however, is called Trojan, so the body and helmet are not part of the same set.

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This is the helmet that goes with the body.

You have to mix and match to make the Jorge-like design. It's not a 'set' in the game.
 
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