DriftingSpirit
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But this is the postseason in America. That is when things really get going and subscription usage is off the charts. This is the time for Xbox to strike.
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InfoScout: PS4 Uncharted bundle highest earning product at Best Buy on Black Friday
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potatohead
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Just a question:
If this is going by personal use of some App....
Doesn't it mean that it is only able to measure the type of user who uses such apps?
Hypothetically console buyers or something are more likely to use such an app to advertise their purchase.
Not that I discount the success of PS4 on Black Friday, I hope it does great, just saying.
Or maybe I don't understand what is going on here exactly.
If this is going by personal use of some App....
Doesn't it mean that it is only able to measure the type of user who uses such apps?
Hypothetically console buyers or something are more likely to use such an app to advertise their purchase.
Not that I discount the success of PS4 on Black Friday, I hope it does great, just saying.
Or maybe I don't understand what is going on here exactly.
Nightengale
Member
I recall all PR from SE on ROTR post-backlash being handled by Phil Rogers, CEO of Square America/Europe though.
The One and Done
Member
Is that a game?
DriftingSpirit
Member
It is one of the greatest anime/manga of all time.The One and Done;187234233 said:
Hunter x Hunter
I highly recommend it.
The One and Done
Member
Ah I thought I had read comments from CD themselves. Perhaps I was mistaken.
In any case at least we won't have to hear SE or CD complain this time around if the game underperforms. They really have no one to blame but themselves this time.
Just look at the list in the OP. It's fairly varied.
unknownstranger
Member
Rise of the Tomb Raider was more or less bought to compete with Uncharted 4 until it got delayed. How much is Uncharted 4 in its first month going to outsell Rise of the Tomb Raider in its first month by? 8/1? 9/1? 10/1?
I've only read the first 100 or so chapters. How the hell did he go from his power of... using a fishing pole to.... that?
I do believe that CD and MS have had a "partnership" at leat since Tomb Raider Underworld, where MS came in to purchase lifetime exclusive DLC content, which was then allegedly actually cut from the game itself.
I'm not making it up, they said so themselves (the privileged partnership):
http://www.destructoid.com/crystal-...hip-with-microsoft-began-in-2008-288147.phtml
The relation is between CD and MS, and CD probably helped MS "sell" the deal to S-E actually here (my guess).
Primethius
Banned
Too many unknown factors to make an accurate prediction (namely, TR's first month NPD).
But it's going to be brutal. 9/1's probably going to be the base and only up from there depending on UC4 reception.
Ah yes those are the quotes I remembered reading. Funny how the natural evolution of having a downloadable game on Summer of Arcade is a long timed exclusive for the newest major game.
Series establishing itself on Playstation 1 and building the fanbase there as well as PC fans essentially saving the 2013 game from being a financial failure got those two platforms nada.
Nightengale
Member
Well, come next quarterly financials, we should know how much ROTR shipped since at the end of the day, it's a Square game and not a 1st party title where Sony/MS don't need to reveal game sales.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
I seem to recall reading that Mass Effect Andromeda was the target, but EA was having none of that.
Saiyan Blood.
Damn I wonder why. ME partnering with MS did very well on the 360. But I guess after Titanfall and seeing things play out they figure it's best to market the game themselves.
You never know what can happen with a revamp, MS could release a smaller , cheaper Xbox One with a better controller that grab the market before PS4 get too far ahead.
Lets be honest the Wii was basically a revamped gamecube with a new controller & it sold 4 times faster,
A smaller Xbox One at $199 with Minecraft 2 or "Minecraft Universe" packed into the system could take off.
IAmRandom31
Banned
Much different situation last generation when MS was able to strike tons of deals
Nightengale
Member
ME1 was exclusive to 360. So the core ME fanbase were 360 owners to begin with.
TR wasn't a timed franchise in the past 10 years, and even with MS DLC and marketing deals, the fanbase was always more Sony.
Mass Effect
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finalflame
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None of what you mentioned is going to happen without a proportionate response from Sony, either anticipated or shortly after.
The Wii was an entirely new console with an entirely new form of input that was a runway success by being there for the casual market at the right time and the right price. This generation's "winner" in sales is already decided.
Both are great consoles, but PS4 will have the larger install base throughout.
Crimson_Gold
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Well, there comes a time you have to settle down. You can't have just let any and every one load you up, push your buttons and have their way with you. Being a one console game is a sign of maturity. It means you can make a commitment. There's greatness in exclusivity. Embrace the greatness. Give in to the passion
Isn't that studio working on a star wars game?
I don't feel like EA would of allowed the new Mass Effect to go exclusive to anyone, it has too much sales potential. I'm honestly surprised MS didn't try to go for the new Mirrors Edge. It's not a huge seller, but it's a feather-in-a-cap for sure.
Speaking of Mirror's Edge, where the hell is my new Dead Space game EA???
Speaking of Mirror's Edge, where the hell is my new Dead Space game EA???
Fallout-with-swords
Banned
That new controller also made videos games easily accessible and ubderstandable to just about everyone.
Giriath_89
Member
The Wii sold because motion control became a phenomenon that got people into casual gaming for a while. A new and cheaper XB1 SKU would still be an XB1, not a completely different direction for the console.
And with all the hardware in these consoles, $199 is probably the lowest the XB1 and PS4 will go, at the end of the generation.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
What do you mean you wonder why?
Things were WAYYYYY different for the 360/PS3 than they were for the PS4/X1.
360 had a much higher percentage of the base then. While EA and MS clearly have (or had) a cozy relationship, they EA was smart enough to realize that cutting off the next Mass Effect from largest base would seriously hurt the franchise.
There hasn't been any confirmation of what exactly they are working on, people are assuming Star Wars. Their last game was Battlefield: Hardline, so I imagine Viscerals next game getting announced sometime before or at next years E3.
EDIT: Actually, I must of missed it, but it looks like it was confirmed to be a star wars game. Mix lightsabers with the body destruction of Dead Space, plz.
None of what you mentioned is going to happen without a proportionate response from Sony, either anticipated or shortly after.
The Wii was an entirely new console with an entirely new form of input that was a runway success by being there for the casual market at the right time and the right price. This generation's "winner" in sales is already decided.
Both are great consoles, but PS4 will have the larger install base throughout.
That gap is getting out of hand.
That ain't even the most updated graph, shipped has to be a lot more after they announced 30+mil sold through.
Who even knows where the gap is after Black Friday, though. Probably not a whole lot different.
None of what you mentioned is going to happen without a proportionate response from Sony, either anticipated or shortly after.
The Wii was an entirely new console with an entirely new form of input that was a runway success by being there for the casual market at the right time and the right price. This generation's "winner" in sales is already decided.
Both are great consoles, but PS4 will have the larger install base throughout.
I'm just saying they could do something right & pick up a fan base that's not caught up on the fact that PS4 is more powerful.
Didn't PSP start off selling faster than NDS before they redesigned the NDS?
Results are next week.
DriftingSpirit
Member
Let's just say shit gets real...REALLY REAL lol.
There will be a basic foundation for his powers beyond the fishing pole though.
Send me a PM if you want to talk about it some more.
Mass Effect
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XBone and X360.
Crimson_Gold
Member
Does the general public even realize that it is available for the 360?
Andy Believes
Banned
HAHAHAHA
What's a 360?
Nightengale
Member
Well, 15% of them at least.
X360 user base is still there. So, it counts. And X360 is mentioned in GFK report. In that case, 15% of ROTR sales are on X360 first week.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
It counts, but to my knowledge last gen sales are pretty much non-existent at this point.
Beautiful Ninja
Member
And yet despite being nearly non-existent, they were still a notable portion of ROTR's sales in the UK. This is how badly Microsoft and Squeenix fucked up marketing this game.
jhmtehgamr20xx
Banned
Yeah that's pretty messed up on CD's part when you factor that into the equation.
I honestly think they've just killed the Tomb Raider reboot's momentum completely w/ that deal and the subsequent performance. It is not going to recoup losses in 2016 by being a year-late port in a busy gaming season of new heavy-hitting releases. Just no way.
SolarMystic
Member
Interesting that older gamers preferred Xbox to Playstation. My hypothesis is that older gamers grew up with so many options (Sega, Nintendo, Atari, Playstation) that they might be more inclined to buy something different, whereas a lot of younger generations grew up alongside playstation.
Would be cool to see a more in depth study on this.
Would be cool to see a more in depth study on this.
Lys Skygge
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It's really sad. Tomb Raider had a bright future and the Microsoft deal killed it.
I really hope the PS4 version does well, but it has a lot going against it.
So, in that case if X360 in non-existent, it's ~36k on Xbone in first week.
AgentP
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I think you are looking at it wrong. The amount of young gamers is larger than other groups and they have shifted to the PS4. Last gen they preferred the 360. It is not brand. Just where the numbers have shifted.
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