Hey, I am pretty staunch when it comes to a good old classic controller as well, but have warmed up to this. As you still use it like a regular controller with triggers and analogs... it just has added features. The more I looked into it the more I realized that I am not opposed to the same kind of control scheme with some added enhancements to the controller. I think it is a nice blend of classic and new, and am looking forward to something that feels kind of the same, but adds something extra as well.
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Kotaku: Gamestop has sold out preorder deluxe Wii U stock nationwide
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Hey, I am pretty staunch when it comes to a good old classic controller as well, but have warmed up to this. As you still use it like a regular controller with triggers and analogs... it just has added features. The more I looked into it the more I realized that I am not opposed to the same kind of control scheme with some added enhancements to the controller. I think it is a nice blend of classic and new, and am looking forward to something that feels kind of the same, but adds something extra as well.
Plenty of things sell well/have great rating/succeed that are genuinely awful and plenty of things fail horribly that are awesome.
Not going to say toddlers and tiaras isn't vile and disgusting just because it gets good ratings.
manueldelalas
Time Traveler
Motion control it hasn't been invented to nintendo. Even sony with eye camera has preceded that; however looking at the past there are a lot of precursors. & I'll bet with a good search even the touch screen isn't a nintendo invention. What Iwata doing, it's more a good market strategy than to real innovate the videogame market. Wii not has change the market at the end, wii U will not change but could sell, & this is the target of Iwata. Bet to the mass casual market.
I would also like to know this...
Angry Fork
Member
For people who don't want developer resources wasted on gimmicks. Luckily most devs didn't care about implementing motion but it still ruined E3 when they spend 80% of the time on that shit.
Did that not happen this gen? Can you honestly say I'm wrong?
Orioto, how do you think Sony and MS can manage to release a GamePad like controller and a high end PC, at an affordable price? Selling with a $200 loss could do it, but do you think they'll go this way?
Glorified G
Member
Forgot about that. If you download a lot it would make the 32gb useless since you would be expanding the memory yourself. Unless you really want to play Nintendo land, it just seems like a total cash grab.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
IceDoesntHelp
Banned
How is it bad for the industry though? That makes no sense. If anything it would help the industry.
LiveFromKyoto
Member
Or not. You really think there's a 0% chance that the other two don't release with $150 controllers?
Even if they're not as fully functional as the U's, it will jack up the price and reduce manufacturing yields.
ColdBlooder
Banned
Nothing is a Nintendo invention. But thy are the first to appy it to gaming.
And the Gameboy camera was waaaay before Eye toy, so whats your point?
Let their dream [citation].
I am sold on getting the basic at $299.00 and spending the difference on a game I actually want. As for storage, I can pick up a 1TB drive to attach for around 70.00 and will have all the space I ever need.
Snowden's Secret
Banned
I'm never quite sure where to place you on the scale of 1-to-Wario.
I don't know how such a insane post gets ignored by most people
Angry Fork
Member
Industry during PS2/Gamecube/Xbox days was far better for gamers than the industry now that grandmothers and sports bros are playing. Almost every time something goes mainstream it becomes diluted. Although it may have been necessary to branch out to justify the high costs of HD gaming so who knows.
But gameboy was a portable, not an home console. When nintendo put 3d on portable it's original, tries to innovate (& sony is the first who bet to 3d on console market) when the others does otherwise, copy, are the evil. Why we have to read claims so fools?
grimshawish
Banned
They get boring and its best to ignore them after a while or its becomes a banal debate.
ColdBlooder
Banned
Yeah it counts and it counted before with the DS and 2 screens reference. But now since its not suiting your case it dosen´t count?
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
Does Amazon US have their preorder page up? They have the games. I just want to put this on my wish list so I can get it later.
ColdBlooder
Banned
Not worth responding to IMO
It's far better to ignore trolls than feed them, making them clutter the threads with more insane bullshit.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
What he said about the tablet rings true for me. I haven't seen any game-changing experiences it's added to gameplay. A nugget here and there but nothing significant, a lot like the Wii. This is excluding the fact that you'll have to look down at the screen for many of these incredible gamepad features.
Flame Lord
Member
I understand keeping a positive outlook, but you thinking that this is somehow going to COMPLETELY revolutionize gaming just seems ridiculous to me. I mean, it's a second screen; big fucking deal. So far all I've seen it do are UI stuff like items and maps or just gimmicky stuff I could do without. And if it's going to make me pay an extra $150, I think I can do without it.
TheDarkKnight774
Member
no and they won't ever directly sell it either
and i almost had a bit of impulse pre-order. Even though there's no games that truly interest me yet. I will buy it probably next year but man i have a hard time not buying launch consoles for some reason
We're heading into a new console generation.
It's for the best to build up a general tolerance to these sorts of things, as it's only going to get worse for the next few years.
But the difference here is that this is also used like a regular controller. It just has the added feature of the screen. I don't see how that automatically will make games worse just because you can have two screens to interact with instead of one. If anything, it offers more options and interactivity.
It's funny. The exact my same thought. But I'm not trying to defend the strategies of a milionarie company when 'screw' my interests. I'm surprise all those nintendo fan are so obstinate to solidarize with everything to nitendo when it seems completely ignore them from the gamecube.
What did Pachter say? I missed this.
Actually I have enough money in banks to buy a new car, but thanks for making shitty assumptions.
Good luck and thanks for what you do.
This is not a bad thing for the industry. Fresh ideas keep the industry viable. As for Ms/Sony, their marketshare went up when they expanded to the casual market with motion gaming. It expanded the market overall. This is not a BAD thing.
See above. Expanding the market is never bad.
Because its the same regurgitated shit every single Nintendo console launch and nobody cares anymore to respond to it.
JakkuFurosu
Member
Sold out till March
ColdBlooder
Banned
Yes you do. You said Nintendo reacted to Apple and their iPhone and iPad wich are mobile devices in the first place. Those aren´t consoles either...
It's opinable. Those aren't uniquely or specifically a console, but does like console. However I don't understand what change.
Nintendo did acknowledge apple as a new competitor in recent years but as people have said, the DS has existed for a long time with touchscreen interface and Nintendo shifted that strategy towards consoles this gen. Nintendo does have to compete with the Tablet gaming market on one level but those devices still do not offer interactivity with traditional style gaming like the wiiU does. Thats the difference here.
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
Well, there's got to be a reason fr this. Did Jeff Bezos run over Reggie's dog or something?
You don't have to look down at the screen. Bring the pad up towards your face and you can keep 1 eye on the TV at the same time. And you dont have to hold it there. You can drop the pad back down when you're finished with the action you select on the pad. That's how I've seen several people doing it in gameplay videos. I know it may seem a little unwieldy at first, but once you learn what to expect on the pad screen you'll get better at it and it'll become second nature with a little practice.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
In a perverse way, I kind of enjoy that the launch of any new Nintendo product brings out defensive 'true gamers' who wax apocalyptic about the damage to the industry if Nintendo continues making money.
At this point, it really is gaming's equivalent of the nerd rage at Apple bringing out a new product and people buying it.
'tis charming.
At this point, it really is gaming's equivalent of the nerd rage at Apple bringing out a new product and people buying it.
'tis charming.
Except it really doesn't wtf? Nintendo was just as good to gamers during Wii as it was during gamecube.
The supply constraint stuff is getting old.
Do people even have any concept of logistics and manufacturing? Nintendo cannot just manifest consoles out of thin air. they have to first ramp up production, test the consoles for defects, distribute them to warehouses, then ship them to retailers. This stuff takes time and planning. They cannot just rush 3 million units out the door day one.
Do people even have any concept of logistics and manufacturing? Nintendo cannot just manifest consoles out of thin air. they have to first ramp up production, test the consoles for defects, distribute them to warehouses, then ship them to retailers. This stuff takes time and planning. They cannot just rush 3 million units out the door day one.
Why would you do that?
Member
I just want to say Nintendo bet on 3D twice before Sony.
- NES in Japan. They had 3D shutter glasses and a few 3D games, including a couple of Square games (one being Rad Racer) and Nintendo's 3D Hot Rally.
- Virtual Boy. Not technically console, but still.
Haunted
Member
Well, it's only Gamestop's preorder stock for one SKU, so we have no idea how significant this actually is.
But don't forget that they set huge records with the Wii - manufacturing and making more units available than any other console in history had before, I can't even start to imagine how you'd sensibly prepare for a repeat of that.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=42114290&postcount=179
Actually, I would say it was better in terms of the quality of first party titles and catering to beloved franchises. Several of those skipped the Gamecube but came back on Wii.
and then crazy stuff started occurring like bringing back Sega bringing back NiGHTS and Nintendo releasing Sin and Punishment 2.
And they tested it out on the GC as well.
if apple could do it, i dont see how nintendo can't
Angry Fork
Member
I actually like the way the controller looks I'd love to try it out I just don't want Sony/Microsoft to spend all their time copying it just because it sells well. I don't blame Nintendo for trying new hardware experiences but I do dislike them overpricing old hardware (not touch screen stuff I mean video card ram etc.).
I play primarily on PC now so it doesn't bother me much anymore but if I was a console-only gamer it would be annoying because it holds the industry back. If old overpriced tech sells a lot than Sony may stop making megatron consoles and do what Nintendo does which would be sad.
Mass Effect/Bioware
Splinter Cell
Socom
Resident Evil/Capcom
Dead Space/"Survival" Horror games in general or lack there of.
Insomniac (maybe?)
Watch all the E3's since 2008/2009
ESPN, central media hub BS and Microsoft using it to justify Live price hikes.
Everything shifting to shooter-central, less resources spent on platformers RPGs etc.
I'm sure I could think of more but I'm too lazy right now.