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Kotaku Rumor: PS4 out in November, control with your phone/tablet, maybe $429/529
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EdibleExplosives
Member
Yeah cause xbox live is so much better than PSN, right?
Castle Doctrine
Member
$529 for the good model that people really want won't go over well. I don't see that selling in todays gaming market.
Baconsammy
Banned
Awww shit, does this mean we're going to start seeing '$ony' popping up in the future? The humanity.
sublimit
Banned
The problem is that Kotaku's rumors are proven false most of the time.
Tripp Daily
Member
Anything that can be percieved negative will not be announced tomorrow. I am pretty sure you can bank on that.
Ludicrous Speed
Banned
Guess I won't be going online with PS4 then
I kind of agree, they probably think based on the strength of the brand over the competitor, certain markets will be buying into PS4 anyway, everywhere else, competition does the same anyway. It's too tempting not to do it at this point if looking at things from Sony POV. it's a billion dollar revenue every year for MS. It makes a lot of sense and it's not like there is alternative for those looking to buy a new console for new games and online play.
As bad it is for consumer, it's not surprising at all if they do it, they easily can and it will be profitable, I actually don't see much of a backlash. Live has been around for 10 years after all.
You can feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that Durango/Orbis pastebin was on any NeoGAF threads before we posted about those codenames. We only found it because we googled "durango + orbis" when we first heard those two names.
I can't tell you anything about our source. One of our top priorities is protecting our sources' identities. Sorry. Everything we know is in the piece.
Very good question. The answer is for a couple of reasons:
1. I go through gaming cycles where I might prefer PC for months, handhelds for months, or might not even play anything at all for a significant chunk of time. During such times I usually don't have subscriptions to things like PS+ or XBL.
2. It could be that PS+ might actually lose its appeal with the removal of some features or that their awesome potential Gaikai BC streaming isn't so awesome for the first year. So I would at least like the option I have now, which is to say having the option to opt-out of an optional service if I know I wont get use out of it or if I don't think there's value for it at that particular time. However, I always find value in having basic online features like friends, trophies, chat, browser, netflix/amazon, etc. Hence, my paywall rant.
UberTag
Member
I LOVE the idea of Sony giving out a free year of PS World either with pre-orders and/or launch window sales (pre-2014). Motivates all of the "I don't want to pay for online" people to jump in early and will hook them going forward.
That's the best approach Sony can take.
Yeah I'm not trying pay for online play again. With the 360 I go months without playing it so I'm annoyed when I buy the year card but picking up a 3 month card with a new game is annoying as well. PS+ seemed perfect. This is such a let down if true. Still better than always online and no used games.
Qwell
Member
I'm in the camp that says lets wait one more day before we start wishing for Sony to die in a fire. I'm confident they will keep basic online play for free, but I'm also confident that if they keep PS+ kind of the way it is now, with some really good added features like games, reduced sale prices etc. that I will continue to be a PS+ member.
Ultimately I will probably stay Playstation / PC for most of my gaming. I have a 360, but only because my brothers red ringed and he bought a new one so I sent his broken one to get fixed for myself. It's basically my Halo SP / Gears of War box with some Forza sprinkled in.
Ultimately I will probably stay Playstation / PC for most of my gaming. I have a 360, but only because my brothers red ringed and he bought a new one so I sent his broken one to get fixed for myself. It's basically my Halo SP / Gears of War box with some Forza sprinkled in.
JetBlackPanda
Member
uhhh I have some bad news for you.
I lay my cards on the table. Mainly because I want to see the internet melt with fanboy rage.
And of course see a few pull a Playstation 180
Ludicrous Speed
Banned
Why is online gaming on pc so much better than 360 or ps3 and it's free? Yeah, I'm going to stick with playing for free online on my pc. Sony just doesn't get it.
Then do tell if you have reasoning to support your claim against his so he can make a better argument against yours.
I've been wanting an industry analysis between the two from a professional, anyway so let's hear it...
everthustodeadbeats
Member
Absolutely true. I doubt we'll see a price for anything. I think Microsoft has successfully battled back with a bit of FUD and they've used Kotaku as their messenger boy.
Mr.Wreckless
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Yes, they are wrong sometimes but thats how it goes with rumors of any sort. Its not exclusive to Kotaku and video games.
Sometimes they are right on the money with things and they dont get any credit because people only focus on what they got wrong.
Shhhhhh. You're not supposed to tell anyone or else you will jeopardize the situation.
micro$oft, $ony, $$$$$$$NINTENDO PRINTS MONEY$$$$$$$
Baconsammy
Banned
If by 'it' you mean 'money', you're correct, they haven't gotten 'it' in a long long time. Personally I hope they make a lot of money doing this because as gamers we're much better off when Sony is profitable.
I don't think they will charge for online pay, but I'd be surprised if they don't talk about the future of their service at all.
Syph Medwes
Member
Was hoping for cheaper but whatever. As long as the only difference is HD size I can live with those prices though.
EdibleExplosives
Member
I have both, and I only use Live and PSN to play online, not for 'entertainment' bullshit. I've never noticed a difference in quality.
The fact that you need to play online on the 360 and their 'baby' Halo still doesn't have dedicated servers is fucking hilarious.
mysteriousmage09
Member
What Versus XIII rumor?
zomgbbqftw
Banned
Err, PlayStation is a Sony trademark, Sony can have all of those places shut down for trademark infringement in about 60 seconds.
If there's going to be a big change to the online model (i.e. pay to play), I think they might mention it tomorrow. They talked about Vita's big downer from the offset (memory cards).
The question of unit price will be left up in the air though.
Keep that hope alive.
Fried Food
Banned
I'm concerned about that dpad. I think there should be more seperation between the cardinals
RamzaIsCool
The Amiga Brotherhood
As with all the other price expectations, it's all a rumour at this point. So let's keep the meltdowns or cheering for when it's official.
I think basic functions like online play, crossplay chat and friends invites will be still free. Cloudgaming plus other advanced functions would probably be sub based, which isn't that different from what is happening now.
I think basic functions like online play, crossplay chat and friends invites will be still free. Cloudgaming plus other advanced functions would probably be sub based, which isn't that different from what is happening now.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
For crying out loud. Online play on the PS3 is fine in fact a lot of games have dedicated servers even. Most issues are the result of bad development from the game dev.
Also you guys are crazy if you think having free online for the same price as the console next to it that requires a paid service is NOT a benefit to the PS4 this holiday season.
The One and Done
Member
On a side note, the PS4 will not be called the PS4 since 4 is taboo in Japanese culture.
Pretty sure nobody raided anybody and SuperDAE was desperate for attention so he made up that whole thing.
Chuck Norris
Banned
Why are Kotaku claiming they are the ones who leaked the Orbis / Durango names?
Try a Vita out. You'll soon see.
zomgbbqftw
Banned
I remember reading that pastebin ages ago (long before your article), and since I don't frequent other forums or gaming sites, it must have been linked here. It might have been Jeff_Rigby that linked to it originally in the old web-browser thread.
Kun Aguero
Member
Please, don't make baseless accusations against me.
And it's the only other company on the planet with a gamesconsole in the same market as Sony.
That it was cancelled.
Looks like the Vita dpad, which is one of the best dpads I've ever used, and quite a bit better than the Dualshock's.
Wolves Evolve
Member
That new picture of the controller shows they have made seriously good changes to the triggers.