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Kotaku Rumor: PS4 out in November, control with your phone/tablet, maybe $429/529
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mysteriousmage09
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I just don't see any chance of the core "playing games online over PSN" all the sudden gets charged and they flat out replace PSN Plus. I see basic stuff stays the same and PSN Plus gets showered with more goodies for more mass appeal and they get money that way.
TheOohChild
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whelp, i'm buying a gaming rig
phosphor112
Banned
No one said that.
pieatorium
Member
So the Rumoured prices are 40000 yen (Nikkei iirc?) 300 pounds (the Times) and 429 dollars (kotaku)
one of these things is not like the other
one of these things is not like the other
Facepalm that Napalm.
AgentP
Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
So a person with a dev kits knows secret internal info that Sony itself probably doesn't know yet? A controller pic is one thing, but the rest is hard to swallow.
What online features will be behind a paywall? The article was vague about that.
I was wondering about that.
JetBlackPanda
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Enjoy no used games.
gundamkyoukai
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Seventy_X_Seven
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It's Kotaku, and the rumor only states "most online features." I'm sure basic online play and friend lists + messaging will all be free. The subscription would be for stuff like cross game chat, this new game spectating thing, stuff like that that isn't essential to online gaming.
At least I would hope.
At least I would hope.
How can it be more concrete than the word of someone who has said they've seen it?
Concrete as in providing a new image?
We can only wait and see.
I want this all to be true so we can see 6 years of fanboyism totally destroyed. It will literally be hilarious.
Ol No Bones
Banned
Hahaha Sony can do no wrong!
My synopsis (like anyone gives a shit).
1) Controller looks ok, but seems like there's a bit too much plastic and makes it look very cheap. Analogs look solid, but I'd still prefer an asymmetrical design.
2) Prices seem decent considering people are willing to drop a ton of money on phones and tablets and the return here is a blu-ray player + a dedicate gaming that's going to be around at least five years. I'll bite on the premium, but I'm still kinda hoping for $499 even.
3) Pay to play online? Get used to it bitches! Seriously, Microsoft banks a lot of money for Live and if Sony wants to recoup some of their expected loss on hardware, what better way to make up for it than charging for online play? Remember, online play for free isn't a right (on consoles...lulz). It just sucks because removing a feature that people used to have is always worse than adding a new one.
Overall, I'll still likely be picking one up at launch. I just hope the Durango launches at least a month earlier so that I'm not spending thousands of dollars over the course of like two weeks. :|
1) Controller looks ok, but seems like there's a bit too much plastic and makes it look very cheap. Analogs look solid, but I'd still prefer an asymmetrical design.
2) Prices seem decent considering people are willing to drop a ton of money on phones and tablets and the return here is a blu-ray player + a dedicate gaming that's going to be around at least five years. I'll bite on the premium, but I'm still kinda hoping for $499 even.
3) Pay to play online? Get used to it bitches! Seriously, Microsoft banks a lot of money for Live and if Sony wants to recoup some of their expected loss on hardware, what better way to make up for it than charging for online play? Remember, online play for free isn't a right (on consoles...lulz). It just sucks because removing a feature that people used to have is always worse than adding a new one.
Overall, I'll still likely be picking one up at launch. I just hope the Durango launches at least a month earlier so that I'm not spending thousands of dollars over the course of like two weeks. :|
The price difference between a gaming rig and a PS4 would get you about 10 years of PS4 online subscription. Not sure if that's the way to go if you're upset about it :>
It doesn't say it locks online to "PSW". I would think it's safe to assume that online play is something that isn't locked to "PSW".
airmangataosenai
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I would love to see them announce the price but I'm not expecting them too (And GAF will of course freak out and view at as vindication for Kotaku should it happen). Announcing all the launch details at this event would give Microsoft a chance to work out a response to the move before or during E3 and allow Nintendo to know where they should be pricing their console this summer/fall. They have a lot to lose and little to gain.
MoogleWizard
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If they charge for online I'm out.
Dammit, I don't want to be stuck with Wii U only next gen.
Now its perfect...I am hoping on this Sony plz
itshappening gif should have a new version, with text, "its melting" and a sad face of Ron Paul
UberTag
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There's a lot of online functionality in the FREE Xbox LIVE Silver model as well, you know. You get access to demos and patches and ads and leaderboards and messaging and you can still buy DLC (unless it's timed-exclusive for Gold).
Saying "I'll just play on Wii U - the current gen system with no third-party support" is an empty threat and Sony knows it.
If you're going to subscribe anyway, why do you care what they throw behind the paywall?
90TilInfinity
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Free online was hardly a major factor either way last gen (what did free online have to do with "losing America"? We both know how they lost their market share), but in a scenario like we have now where two sides are going in direct competition in the same year, free online play could be the tipping point for alot of casual gamers.
Both sides will want something to differentiate themselves from the competition. In particular Sony because they lost America.
They don't care. They are getting the clicks today, which is the whole point.
I'm guessing (hoping)
$400 single SKU
Free online play
Free additional services access (Netflix, Hulu etc.)
PS World sub for streaming, rentals, social features, etc.
Basically the same as PSN/PS+ right now, but with more features added to PS+.
Also, someone knowing the codename of a console and having a dev kit, doesn't mean they have knowledge of internal plans for Sony's new online service and North American pricing strategy. Did any other sources confirm what he said, Jason?
Summary of a lot of reactions here. Quite sad.
EagleBurnn
Banned
Kotaku hasn't let me down before!
Not a chance in hell, Sony are going to go down the avenue of this being the best thing since sliced bread, if they price even within £50 of the Wii-U what kind of message does that give to consumers?
Also where does that leave them for price drops over the next few years.
Guys, please explain to me why you expect them to charge for stuff they already do on the Vita, a brand new system, FREE?!
Vita has:
Cross-game chat
Cross-game invites
Online Play
..And more I can't think of
FREE.
Now, that system just came out a year ago. Do you really think they're going to charge for this stuff that's already free on the Vita? PS3 --> PS4 I could understand, but not when their current handheld does more than the PS3 and it's still free.
What I expect is features that neither the PS3 nor the Vita does and those will cost money. Playstation Cloud stuff, stuff like that.
Vita has:
Cross-game chat
Cross-game invites
Online Play
..And more I can't think of
FREE.
Now, that system just came out a year ago. Do you really think they're going to charge for this stuff that's already free on the Vita? PS3 --> PS4 I could understand, but not when their current handheld does more than the PS3 and it's still free.
What I expect is features that neither the PS3 nor the Vita does and those will cost money. Playstation Cloud stuff, stuff like that.
Yeah, I remember we found that while googling around when we first heard about the code names. We linked that pastebin in one of our original stories, IIRC. I don't think many people had seen it or heard the names Orbis or Durango before we broke them. You definitely won't find any news stories using those names before we posted about them.
makingmusic476
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I don't recall anything official pointing to that. It was PSN all the way, though people assumed that was placeholder and who knows who started that rumor.
criesofthepast
Member
These prices are being pulled out of their asses. I don't even think Sony knows for sure what they're selling it for. They have an idea but its going to be heavily based on the reaction it gets tomorrow and leading up to E3.
Castle Doctrine
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You can't be sure about that. It's possible one of the reasons the PS3 overcome all its difficulties and is almost equal in sales worldwide with the 360 may be because of not having the paywall.
Tripp Daily
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Am I the only one that perceives the playstation as a great single player console and xbox as a great multiplayer console? For Microsoft the 'Xbox Live' brand has almost become the brand over 'Xbox'. With that said, I don't think that Sony charging for online play will be make a big difference in PS4 sales, and after he initial uproar won't be that big of deal.
I own a 360 and have never owned a PS3. My perceptions could be way off base.
I own a 360 and have never owned a PS3. My perceptions could be way off base.
AuthenticM
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Guys guys guys, calm down. We don't know if online gaming will be hidden behind a paywall. It would be in Sony's best interests to let it remain free. The more people play online, the more of them will be enticed by those bells and whistle services.
that price better include the sub. because 400 will be my limit for a next gen console. :/
but that controller looks big, i liked the slim look of the dualshock.
too true.
but that controller looks big, i liked the slim look of the dualshock.
too true.
Only reliable if it posts good news about your system of choice, right?
zomgbbqftw
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Kotaku's source was that pastebin, their initial article pretty much ripped that pastebin off and ran with it as a "source".
Kun Aguero
Member
Isn't that obvious? Since when has Kotaku been a bastion of journalistic integrity?
Hey, but if you want to have a meltdown over a kotaku rumour then feel free.