BossDarkseid
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It's not like I didn't have a huge backlog but Secret Wars has made me want to collect Hickman's entire Marvel run. But I also wanted to dabble in Ultimate F4 a bit more. Ah, comics..
Well we could read classic runs, like Black Panther or Moon Knight. I'd be up for that.
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And regarding how Battleworld worked, if the residents of Battleworld were "saved" by Doom from collapsed realities and then placed there with warped memories based on their new reality, why did the Battleworld version of 616 have a Spider-Man? It should have been lacking one since 616 Spidey actually escaped the collapse, and therefore couldnt have been saved and placed on Battleworld.
Seems for this event Bendis just did whatever he felt like, as evidenced by just barely setting up the event in his books and outright refusing to introduce plot elements Hickman used in Time Runs Out such as Nation X. He completely disregarded the characterization of Doom Hickman was going with and Ultimate End was an aimless story based around the quicklyy fading novelty of people having tired banter with alt universe counterpart.
Number 2 was implied to be a favor to Miles by Molecule Man.
1. He did indeed everything he could to save the remnants of the worlds, and to make something with it. He was quite successful in doing so, but he lacked the vision, or imagination, to recreate what was lost.
3. No one is themselves. Or everyone is. Everybody died with the end of the universe, and Reed recreated everything. The few people who survived the end of the world through their raft, died at the end of Battleworld. The only person we know for sure to have survived these events is Black Panther. A bunch of other people managed to keep some memories of the stuff, but even those were technically dead and reborn.
Note that this event brings some philosophical arguments, very similar to the teleporter argument: if your body and mind are destroyed then recreated identically down to the molecules and brain wave pattern, are you still the same person? You sure feel the same.
This is my take on it, with the big explosion at the end of Battleworld, and Reed and Franklin recreating the whole prime universe.
Sue and the Future foundation were rescued off-panel by a Molecule Man travelling back in time or something like that. She hints at remembering everything up to the raft, she wasn't a part of Battleworld.
I don't really know what to say about misplaced people from other universes like Ultimate, 2099 or Old Man Logan, there is no logical reason to put all of them into a single universe where they don't belong. It just feels like they needed an event to bring a bunch of people into the main books.
I haven't actually read any All New All Different, but there are villains, right?
Why would Reed and Franklin remake the multiverse with villains?
I haven't actually read any All New All Different, but there are villains, right?
Why would Reed and Franklin remake the multiverse with villains?
So I've been reading this storyline on Marvel Unlimited ( so I'm rough in September 2015) and I have to say it's one of the more disappointing events in my 25 years of reading comics.
I'm still enjoying the main Secret Wars book (even though I actually think Hickman is overrated, and writes convoluted stories that are difficult to follow, like there are missing chapters).
However, basically all of the tie-ins are basically meaningless. They are effectively What If?! stories that appear to lead nowhere. At this point, about 3 or 4 have concluded in Unlimited, and I realize they were just pointless, and not really that great. Do any of the tie-ins actually go anywhere, or do they all end anticlimactally?
So I've been reading this storyline on Marvel Unlimited ( so I'm rough in September 2015) and I have to say it's one of the more disappointing events in my 25 years of reading comics.
I'm still enjoying the main Secret Wars book (even though I actually think Hickman is overrated, and writes convoluted stories that are difficult to follow, like there are missing chapters).
However, basically all of the tie-ins are basically meaningless. They are effectively What If?! stories that appear to lead nowhere. At this point, about 3 or 4 have concluded in Unlimited, and I realize they were just pointless, and not really that great. Do any of the tie-ins actually go anywhere, or do they all end anticlimactally?
I'm actually kind of depressed having just finished this. I'm gonna miss the 616. I know it's just a technicality but all the heroes I grew up reading are dead and the ones in ANAD are just recreations, kind of weird haha
The whole thing is weird when you think about.