Manmademan
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there's already a "all new marvel" thread on top of the regular comics thread. I'm not sure what another thread could accomplish.
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Marvels Secret Wars by Hickman & Ribic |OT| Everything ends... Everything begins
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there's already a "all new marvel" thread on top of the regular comics thread. I'm not sure what another thread could accomplish.
We've already seen Alpha Flight in the new Ultimates.
Well we could read classic runs, like Black Panther or Moon Knight. I'd be up for that.
I read through the thread and had to stop right here. I WILL NOT LET YOU DEFAME THE ULTIMATE UNIVERSE DAMMIT.
UU brought us:
Miles and resulting rage.
A realistic version of the X-Men
Kitty Pryde leading ass leader with excellent use of her powers.
Great storylines
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Questions on ending:
Can someone explain
how the Maker was made into pizza and eaten by Molecule Man only to wind up alive in Doom's body at the end?
How does Molecule Man pay back Miles?
How does Molecule Man pay back Miles?
What are the moments in this series that writers could use for the What If that comes inside of five years if it happens?
I am up for it.
MHWilliams
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Miles was folded seamlessly into the Prime Universe and his mother was returned to life. That's how Owen paid him back.
Anyways...he pays back Miles by inserting him in the Prime Universe, and rewriting history so that Miles's mom is still alive.
Manmademan
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how high are you right now?
presumably by
bringing his mother back. Parker mentions it in passing at the end of the issue, but its a big reveal in ultimate end
early ultimate universe was good. i didnt care for the ultimates, but i liked f4 and spider man. but it fell. hard. it was just a shambling corpse looking for a way out in the end. but the sad thing is that the remaining good the universe had, they let die with it instead of exiling them along with miles. the young x-men as well as young avengers could have had a much better home in the 616
ShadowSwordmaster
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Dustin Weaver is one of the best.
Early ultimate universe definitely gets a pass. However, a lot of that stuff has aged pretty poorly outside of Bendis on Ultimate Spidey. I liked Millar's X-Men and Ultimates run when they were first being published, but in retrospect they are typical Millar stories/characters with good art. Tons of shallow narcissistic assholes. Tons of mean spirited stuff happening.
BKV's run on Ultimate X-Men was decent, if cut too short.
He really is. I'd love to see him write Richard Rider one day.
Man I'm quite confused after reading that.
The ending was awesome though. Just goes to show how much the FF and Doom belong in the MCU.
Doom would be a perfect phase 4 villain and his rivalry with Reed IMO is what makes the fantastic four interesting.
So do any of the comics after secrets wars explain exactly what happened with the new world? What happened to t'challa? Did he use the stone to help retain his memories while he warped back to the new world? Do the incursions still happen? Which characters remember and which don't? What exactly is created in this new universe? Just earth and nothing so far?
Brainhurts...
The ending was awesome though. Just goes to show how much the FF and Doom belong in the MCU.
Doom would be a perfect phase 4 villain and his rivalry with Reed IMO is what makes the fantastic four interesting.
So do any of the comics after secrets wars explain exactly what happened with the new world? What happened to t'challa? Did he use the stone to help retain his memories while he warped back to the new world? Do the incursions still happen? Which characters remember and which don't? What exactly is created in this new universe? Just earth and nothing so far?
Brainhurts...
basic_text
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It's a damn good job that I double dipped on a digital copy of #9 as this week's floppies still haven't turned up!
As of right now most issues of ANAD jump ahead eight months later; most heroes seem to remember the end of the world thing, but not Battleworld itself. The end of the world didn't happen (I guess everyone assumes it was resolved) and life just went on. As of right now, I guess Singularity (Debuted in A-Force), Miles, Reed, Molecule Man, Doom, Panther and probably a few others remember Battleworld.
I don't think what happened between the 8 months really matter as much as it happened and now the Prime Universe exists. This isn't some complex thing which needs detailed explanations. The story of Secret Wars was about the nature of recreating a universe and the responsibility of being a god. Everything else was just window dressing.
Thats what I felt too. Scarlet Witch is more the kind of stuff I was expecting Dr Strange's solo series to be like.
Vision #1 was as good as everyone is saying. god damn, that was great!
what do i read to understand the things leading up to this? ie, where did Vision's wifes brainwaves come from, the crazy rantings of the Grim Reaper, etc - or do i just keep reading Vision and it'll get explained?
yeah, i'll finish up the first 5 issue arc and wait til later for the rest.
what do i read to understand the things leading up to this? ie, where did Vision's wifes brainwaves come from, the crazy rantings of the Grim Reaper, etc - or do i just keep reading Vision and it'll get explained?
yeah, i'll finish up the first 5 issue arc and wait til later for the rest.
Angelus Errare
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What happened to Genki? The real star of the show? D:
Ganke is still around. I'm sure I've seen him calling for Miles in a panel somewhere.
Jack The Nipper
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can someone explain to me the new trend on these covers? art, coloring and style just looks sort of bad. Seems like marvel opened up to a lot of different art styles and color styles. Not saying I'm digging it though.
Curios what happened as a fan of 70's to 2000 style comics
Curios what happened as a fan of 70's to 2000 style comics
LucidMomentum
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Can you give us examples of what covers you like? There's a lot of variance in Marvel comics covers nowadays.
Jack The Nipper
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I like a lot of the spawn stuff. most of the 80's batman.
Enjoyed that release of ghost rider around the late 80's early 90's as well. I just feel the style from what I see in the OP looks quite different and not as good in a lot of ways. I was just wonderig what caused the change. Looks a lot closer to anime in a lot of ways and the coloring style looks more simple in a lot of aspects in those in the OP
I need to pick up a few books and get out and look in the near future as well
BossDarkseid
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Did Hickman ever write an Ultimate F4 book to setup the Maker or just Ultimates?
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Deleted member 13876
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Just Ultimates. Maker was set up in the Ultimate Enemy trilogy by Bendis.
There is a run that sets up the Maker in U4, but it wasn't written by Hickman.
Jack The Nipper
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Some of them look ok but things like this. Just the art , style and coloring doesn't look nearly as good as the old stuff to me. Face looks funny and the coloring looks closer to cell shading than anything to me.
looks way more stylized, must be a new trend marvel started doing
ths isn't that great but i do like it better.
Just seems there was a transition in style over the years that caught me off guard
This ends up looking a bit ugly to me personally. sorry if i ofend anyone
and this face looks awful, what is going on in todays comics? I dont really get it I guess
I thought marvel cared about faces, hands in their books. I just feel confused.
LucidMomentum
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What about these though?
Like I said, there's a lot of variety to comics in terms of art styles nowadays.
I'd suggest reading the Thor: God of Thunder run for some nice art.
Like I said, there's a lot of variety to comics in terms of art styles nowadays.
I'd suggest reading the Thor: God of Thunder run for some nice art.
Jack Remington
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That Spawn cover is straight fire. I always loved McFarlane's designs. Plus the McFarlane universe produced THE best action figures when I was a kid in the 90s, bar none.
They looked nice, but they held together like wet shit
Thats the saddest shit ive heard in a while
Jack The Nipper
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I really like good detailed pencils, forms inks and nice color work.
Some of the forms of these arent really my favorite styles.
That cap piece just doesnt look great to be in face and other basic human looks as well
pencil work here isnt bad but why are they dong this solid color look? that is what I am seeing a lot of and I don't get? It is work load savings? money budgets? I dunno realy
I am a pencil and ink guy though (as personal preferences will play a large role)
But this sort of work seems to be missing a lot more often on a lot off these comics i see recently. Going for a lot more styles. Not saying its bad just not what i prefer on comics
for me though, that cap piece just looks no where near as good
my name is ed
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Such a transparent troll post. You need to try a little harder.
Some of them look ok but things like this. Just the art , style and coloring doesn't look nearly as good as the old stuff to me. Face looks funny and the coloring looks closer to cell shading than anything to me.
looks way more stylized, must be a new trend marvel started doing
ths isn't that great but i do like it better.
Just seems there was a transition in style over the years that caught me off guard
This ends up looking a bit ugly to me personally. sorry if i ofend anyone
and this face looks awful, what is going on in todays comics? I dont really get it I guess
I thought marvel cared about faces, hands in their books. I just feel confused.
90s image art was mostly trash and doesn't hold up.
'Why is this Hitch art bad? Why can't it be like this Liefield fellow?'
Ayyy
MHWilliams
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Miles supporting cast seems to be his mom, his dad, Ganke, Bombshell, and the glasses kid he and Ganke roomed with.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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The Spawn cover is from 2011 though :X
90s Image Comics (Spawn especially) did do a really good job with coloring for the most part. Compared to Marvel and DC, they were light years ahead in terms of adopting digital coloring and better quality paper. I remember this cover in particular standing out next to Marvel and DC who were still doing 4 color comics the way they always did them.
Manmademan
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uh, if you were actually around any buying comics during the 90s image heyday, you'd realize that there was a big quality jump sure- but image was absolutely PLAGUED with delays on books that went months at a time
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_Comics
So yeah, Image had the luxury to make their books prettier than what marvel was putting out, but Marvel didn't leave you waiting 6 months between WildCats 3 and 4.
DonasaurusRex
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yeah i was into some of the image books but man , i just gave up with them being stocked so sporadically, i liked Cyberforce too...
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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Liefeld actually had to apologize for how bad Youngblood #1 was too. He also placed the blame almost entirely on his friend who he hired to write the dialogue for him, fired him and had the trade paperback re-dialogued. What a guy.
Rob Liefeld said:
I think history has shown that Rob Liefeld's friend's dialogue was not the problem with this comic.
Wait Bombshell? That's great.
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