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Media Create Sales 6/4 - 6/10
- Thread starter Cheesemeister
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Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
donny2112 said:
Wii should surpass the 360 going by U.S. + Japanese totals by the end of June. This data is only through the end of May, so it doesn't include this week's data.
That is a steep hill
Famitsu May 28-June 3
1. NDS Observation Training 106310 / NEW
2. WII Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition 46813 / NEW
3. PS2 Guilty Gear XX 34106 / NEW
4. NDS Ouendan 2 30190 / 102305
5. WII Wii Sports 27017 / 1561525
6. NDS More English Training 24582 / 278563
7. NDS New Super Mario Bros. 20465 / 4532616
8. NDS Brain Training 2 19242 / 4392374
9. WII Wii Play 17445 / 1239116
10. NDS Mario Kart DS 15808 / 2189019
11. NDS Momotarou Dentetsu DS: Tokyo & Japan 15785 / 211833
12. PSP Final Fantasy Tactics: The Lion War 15634 / 257538
13. WII Super Paper Mario 15130 / 411275
14. NDS Brain Training 14798 / 3332406
15. NDS Animal Crossing: Wild World 14130 / 4129232
16. NDS Pokemon Diamond/Pearl 13798 / 5150842
17. NDS English Training 13720 / 1813659
18. NDS Yoshi's Island DS 12577 / 749478
19. PSP Bleach: Heat the Soul 4 12090 / 48033
20. NDS Kurikin: Nano Island Story 10955 / 28916
21. NDS Simple DS Series Vol. 15 10644 / NEW
22. NDS Daito Giken Koushiki Pachi-Slot Simulator: Hihouden - Ossu! Banchou - Yoshimune DS 10305 / 49100
23. WII Gentle Brain Training Wii 10125 / 166279
24. PS2 Promising This Blue Sky: Melody of the Sun and Sea 10068 / NEW
25. NDS Ace Attorney 4 9872 / 428797
26. NDS Prof. Layton and the Mysterious Village 9508 / 547057
27. NDS FFXII: Revenant Wings 9505 / 479090
28. PS2 Shining Wind 9150 / 110288
29. NDS Kekkaishi: Tale of the Raven Forest 8906 / 49371
30. NDS TOEIC Test Training DS 8561 / 75254
1. NDS Observation Training 106310 / NEW
2. WII Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition 46813 / NEW
3. PS2 Guilty Gear XX 34106 / NEW
4. NDS Ouendan 2 30190 / 102305
5. WII Wii Sports 27017 / 1561525
6. NDS More English Training 24582 / 278563
7. NDS New Super Mario Bros. 20465 / 4532616
8. NDS Brain Training 2 19242 / 4392374
9. WII Wii Play 17445 / 1239116
10. NDS Mario Kart DS 15808 / 2189019
11. NDS Momotarou Dentetsu DS: Tokyo & Japan 15785 / 211833
12. PSP Final Fantasy Tactics: The Lion War 15634 / 257538
13. WII Super Paper Mario 15130 / 411275
14. NDS Brain Training 14798 / 3332406
15. NDS Animal Crossing: Wild World 14130 / 4129232
16. NDS Pokemon Diamond/Pearl 13798 / 5150842
17. NDS English Training 13720 / 1813659
18. NDS Yoshi's Island DS 12577 / 749478
19. PSP Bleach: Heat the Soul 4 12090 / 48033
20. NDS Kurikin: Nano Island Story 10955 / 28916
21. NDS Simple DS Series Vol. 15 10644 / NEW
22. NDS Daito Giken Koushiki Pachi-Slot Simulator: Hihouden - Ossu! Banchou - Yoshimune DS 10305 / 49100
23. WII Gentle Brain Training Wii 10125 / 166279
24. PS2 Promising This Blue Sky: Melody of the Sun and Sea 10068 / NEW
25. NDS Ace Attorney 4 9872 / 428797
26. NDS Prof. Layton and the Mysterious Village 9508 / 547057
27. NDS FFXII: Revenant Wings 9505 / 479090
28. PS2 Shining Wind 9150 / 110288
29. NDS Kekkaishi: Tale of the Raven Forest 8906 / 49371
30. NDS TOEIC Test Training DS 8561 / 75254
Vinnk said:
"Vinnk's Village" Anecdotal Report
Phenominal work, IT's easily the highlight of these threads.
Also congratulations! (I was banned..)
I know some one brought it up earlier, so I may aswell ask, the trusty bell core pack, do the core (which i assume is the tard) sell better in japan compared to other regions?
donny2112 said:
Always enjoyed the detailed weekly graphs you provide donny, quality. I hope they continue with the Wii/PS3/360. I'm curious how long it'll be before there are more mass DSL shortages (DQIX?), seems Nintendo is able to start meeting their current demand for the handheld.
Also, enjoyed the Vinnk's Report and the Evangelion pie charts, nice stuff.
Incredible that Wii could become the WW leader by July/August after seeing the recent sales charts.
Vinnk said:
I surely hope Wii is not supply constrained until after Christmas. It means Nintendo is losing money on backlog and potential loss to PS3 and X360.
Nice news about RE4 Wii. Since I like RE4, but not other RE, I will cheer it up, so next RE will be more like RE4, and not like other RE.
When you are talking about "looked a bit frightened", does that apply to only women, or does men also included ? I could not imagine any man "looked a bit frightened" when walking into a game stores. Embarassed, I can imagine, but not "frightened".
Dragona Akehi
Retired
WOW, I know it's NPD week but this thread died quicker than anyone could expect. Love Vinnk's Village as always but am I the only one that is seriously missing PantherLotus's analysis? I LOVE his charts and his analysis, he really puts things into perspective. Plus JoshuaJSlone and his hardware comparisons and "if Wii stopped selling PS3 would catch up in..." are fascinating and convenient. That takes nothing away from donny with his myriad charts and insight though, or Cheesemeister of course for providing the data in a clear, easy to understand pie chart.
Basically, I just want to thank all of you guys. I've been relatively quiet around here but I really think people don't say it enough and it's quiet anyway. You guys though MAKE these threads possible and worth reading. I'm sure I've missed someone and for that I apologize. NPD has amazingness and meltdowns concentrated in one week, but consistently the media create threads provide awesomeness and entertainment week in and week out.
Basically, I just want to thank all of you guys. I've been relatively quiet around here but I really think people don't say it enough and it's quiet anyway. You guys though MAKE these threads possible and worth reading. I'm sure I've missed someone and for that I apologize. NPD has amazingness and meltdowns concentrated in one week, but consistently the media create threads provide awesomeness and entertainment week in and week out.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Wii comparisons: At 28 weeks, Wii is where GCN was at 117.2 weeks (December 8, 2003), where DS was at 33.6 weeks (July 21, 2005), where PS2 was at 27.5 weeks (September 6, 2000), and where PSP was at 55.9 weeks (December 31, 2005).
PS3 comparisons: At 31 weeks, PS3 is where PS2 was at 3.6 weeks (March 22, 2000), where PSP was at 11.9 weeks (February 26, 2005), where GCN was at 15.9 weeks (December 29, 2001), and where Wii was at 5.0 weeks (December 30, 2006).
PS3 vs Wii: Weekly shares of 12.0 / 88.0, which is really quite consistent. For the past 9 weeks PS3 has always had 11.1-14.4%, leaving Wii with 85.6-88.9%. Total percents are now 25.6 / 74.4. If Wii stops selling and PS3 continues at this week's rate, it catches up in 199.4 weeks (April 5, 2011).
PS2 vs DS: At this week's rates, PS2 and DS will meet in 28.2 weeks (December 24, 2007) at 20.85 million apiece.
PS3 comparisons: At 31 weeks, PS3 is where PS2 was at 3.6 weeks (March 22, 2000), where PSP was at 11.9 weeks (February 26, 2005), where GCN was at 15.9 weeks (December 29, 2001), and where Wii was at 5.0 weeks (December 30, 2006).
PS3 vs Wii: Weekly shares of 12.0 / 88.0, which is really quite consistent. For the past 9 weeks PS3 has always had 11.1-14.4%, leaving Wii with 85.6-88.9%. Total percents are now 25.6 / 74.4. If Wii stops selling and PS3 continues at this week's rate, it catches up in 199.4 weeks (April 5, 2011).
PS2 vs DS: At this week's rates, PS2 and DS will meet in 28.2 weeks (December 24, 2007) at 20.85 million apiece.
imastalker co.
Banned
AWESOME.
thanks Joshua.
thanks Joshua.
viciouskillersquirrel
Member
OH SNAP! I knew it was tracking worse than the Gamecube, but I didn't realise it was quite this bad.JoshuaJSlone said:
DS and PS2 meet up on Christmas Eve... nice.
JoshuaJSlone said:
I wonder when will we get to "Wii is where GCN was at infinity weeks" (since GCN has not managed to sell as much as the Wii did) and "If Wii stops selling and PS3 continues at this weeks's rate, it catches up in 1000 weeks"
It will get better in the future, since GCN died down after christmas. GCN only managed to sell 1,129,300 in 2002, which means average weekly of only 21.7K. I believe PS3 will manage to beat that weekly rate in 2007.
junkwaffle
In Front and Drawing Away
Wow, I was pretty much going to say the exact same thing before reading your post.Gaborn said:
Really, all you guys, the regulars, you really make this thread a weekly treat. Keep it up and thanks for your efforts.
Thanks for the report, Vinnk - it gives a different perspective than the numbers alone.
Especially the "DS Lite" maybe no longer supply constrained - it'll be interesting to see if sales start to slow in the future. Or it could still remain steady.
At first I was wondering why Nintendo did the new colors when supply was constrained, but I guess supplies were just becoming more available.
Edit: Plus, are you guys sure you like the longer Media-Create threads? Usually they're only long when someone stubborn gets into a stupid argument. Only if you have time to burn is wading through pages of that stuff enjoyable. Plus Japan's trends have been set and sales have become pretty predictable, so there's less new things to discuss.
Especially the "DS Lite" maybe no longer supply constrained - it'll be interesting to see if sales start to slow in the future. Or it could still remain steady.
At first I was wondering why Nintendo did the new colors when supply was constrained, but I guess supplies were just becoming more available.
Edit: Plus, are you guys sure you like the longer Media-Create threads? Usually they're only long when someone stubborn gets into a stupid argument. Only if you have time to burn is wading through pages of that stuff enjoyable. Plus Japan's trends have been set and sales have become pretty predictable, so there's less new things to discuss.
KyanMehwulfe
Member
So it's at around the 240k mark eh?
220k at its last stop on the chart, #11 last week which is likely around 15k, and then #22 this week... maybe 5k or so. Pretty nice I guess. About half of what FF12 RE pulled in as an new game on the DS.
220k at its last stop on the chart, #11 last week which is likely around 15k, and then #22 this week... maybe 5k or so. Pretty nice I guess. About half of what FF12 RE pulled in as an new game on the DS.
kisakiproject
Member
So when does sinobi usually update his blog with first day numbers. Trusty bell and Sigma, need to know.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
To the first, I'm thinking it will be October-ish the way things are going. I should mention I'm ignoring Media Create's GCN LTD, since it's a couple hundred thousand beyond what Nintendo claims to have shipped.apujanata said:
To the second... hmm, that's actually more possible than I would've thought, though it would take both Wii to continue being the new DS while PS3 fails to become the new PSP. Looking at the old "If DS stopped selling, when would PSP catch up?" statistic, this week it's 486.7 weeks. For it to give an answer of 1000 weeks, PSP would've needed to be something crazy low like 12K.
They'll need to pick up the pace a little. To be apples-to-apples, I'll use Famitsu numbers for both GCN and PS3.apujanata said:
22 weeks into 2002, Famitsu had GCN's average week at 25,991, thanks to a particularly large first week. For the rest of the year, GCN averaged 18,877 per week.
22 weeks into 2007, Famitsu has PS3's average at 21,460. To beat GCN's 2002, for the last 30 weeks of the year PS3 needs to average 22,200 per week. Or to put it another way, 17.6% better than GCN's equivalent 2002 weeks for the rest of the year.
Oh, yeah. If next week's MC Wii number is at all like this week's, the MC Wii number will have outpaced the Famitsu PS2 number. That's a bit apples-to-oranges and Famitsu's Wii number is slightly lower, but Famitsu's Wii should outpace Famitsu's PS2 shortly thereafter.apotema said:
Visually.
I always think that Nintendo could probably sell more total with a sequel or two, than keep extending catalogue sales, but they seem to do fine just without. Plus they've hardly done any expansion (only 2500 staff, even some third party pubs have more), so they've got to allocate development resources stingily. Why they don't expand is beyond me!charlequin said:
Edit: Oops, sorry for the double post, didn't realize this quote was from the same thread.
Juwanna Peezadis
Member
Tomorrow I believe. I only know this because this very question has been asked a couple dozen times today.kisakiproject said:
Edit: By "tomorrow" I mean Friday. Just noticed it was no longer Thursday by my clock.
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
This Week Sales:
Since 11/27/07:
28 Total Weeks of Next Gen sales. (7 Months since Wii/PS3 launch)
22 Total Weeks of post-holiday sales.
360 - Established Trend: 2-4k. Next Gen Avg = 6,970. Post Holiday Avg = 3,920.
Wii - Mid-cycle: 54-76k. Next Gen Avg = 95,339. Post Holiday Avg = 70,660.
PS3 - Established Trend: 7-9k. Next Gen Avg = 32,840. Post Holiday Avg = 17,819.
Results, Analysis, & Expectations
●The 360's sales are insignificant. It's over, folks. 2k-4k per week for the foreseeable future.
●The PS3's sales are insignificant. Sorry, folks. Nothing to see here. Move along. We will announce results after a full investigation but at this point we're calling it an accident but not ruling out homicide. 6-11k per week for the foreseeable future.
● The Wii's sales are end-cycle. Trends show that this week or next week will be the valley of the 4-5 week cycle of shipments. This will be the 3rd such observed cycle of this length, but it is possible that shipment cycles (and thus, sales) are lengthening due to improved supply lines. One might note that the shipment cycle was first observable as early as 020407, with it only being 3 weeks between up and down shipments. In that case, the end of this current downtrend will actually be the 5th observed shipment cycle. Please note that this method only works as long as the product is constantly sold out. 58-72k is a realistic expectation for next week. Should hover between 50k-80k for the summer.
Expectations for 06/11 - 06/17
360 - 2.5k*
Wii - 73k**
PS3 - 8.5k*
* = within 0.275k estimation success the previous week.
** = within 9k estimation success the previous week.
Market Share:
LTD Market Share Week-to-Week
Significant Notes:
● The Wii has extended its lead to 1,749,980 over the PS3.
● 75,838 units sold this week. Wii had 85.0% of all console sales.
● The Wii has two-thirds (67%) market share.
● The PS3 has sold less than 10k for 5 weeks in a row.
● As it stands, the Wii is likely to hit 3 million before the PS3 hits just 1 million.
● The Wii has a legitimate shot at hitting 4.5 million before the PS3 hits 1.5 mill.
Since 11/27/07:
28 Total Weeks of Next Gen sales. (7 Months since Wii/PS3 launch)
22 Total Weeks of post-holiday sales.
360 - Established Trend: 2-4k. Next Gen Avg = 6,970. Post Holiday Avg = 3,920.
Wii - Mid-cycle: 54-76k. Next Gen Avg = 95,339. Post Holiday Avg = 70,660.
PS3 - Established Trend: 7-9k. Next Gen Avg = 32,840. Post Holiday Avg = 17,819.
Results, Analysis, & Expectations
●
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● The Wii's sales are end-cycle. Trends show that this week or next week will be the valley of the 4-5 week cycle of shipments. This will be the 3rd such observed cycle of this length, but it is possible that shipment cycles (and thus, sales) are lengthening due to improved supply lines. One might note that the shipment cycle was first observable as early as 020407, with it only being 3 weeks between up and down shipments. In that case, the end of this current downtrend will actually be the 5th observed shipment cycle. Please note that this method only works as long as the product is constantly sold out. 58-72k is a realistic expectation for next week. Should hover between 50k-80k for the summer.
Expectations for 06/11 - 06/17
360 - 2.5k*
Wii - 73k**
PS3 - 8.5k*
* = within 0.275k estimation success the previous week.
** = within 9k estimation success the previous week.
Market Share:
LTD Market Share Week-to-Week
Code:
Date____ 360 Wii PS3
11/27-12/03: 25% 49% 26%
12/04-12/10: 24% 49% 27%
12/11-12/17: 21% 50% 29%
12/18-12/24: 17% 57% 26%
12/25-12/31: 16% 56% 28%
01/01-01/07: 15% 58% 27%
01/08-01/14: 14% 59% 27%
01/15-01/21: 14% 60% 26%
01/22-01/28: 13% 60% 26%
01/29-02/04: 13% 61% 26%
02/05-02/11: 13% 61% 26%
02/12-02/18: 13% 62% 26%
02/19-02/25: 12% 62% 25%
03/26-03/04: 12% 62% 26%
03/05-03/11: 12% 62% 26%
03/12-03/18: 11% 62% 26%
03/19-03/25: 11% 63% 26%
03/26-04/01: 11% 63% 26%
04/02-04/08: 11% 63% 26%
04/09-04/15: 11% 64% 26%
04/16-04/22: 10% 64% 25%
04/23-04/29: 10% 65% 25%
04/30-05/06: 10% 66% 24%
05/07-05/13: 10% 66% 24%
05/14-05/20: 10% 66% 24%
05/21-05/27: 10% 67% 24%
05/28-06/03: 09% 67% 23%
06/04-06/10: 09% 67% 23%Significant Notes:
● The Wii has extended its lead to 1,749,980 over the PS3.
● 75,838 units sold this week. Wii had 85.0% of all console sales.
● The Wii has two-thirds (67%) market share.
● The PS3 has sold less than 10k for 5 weeks in a row.
● As it stands, the Wii is likely to hit 3 million before the PS3 hits just 1 million.
● The Wii has a legitimate shot at hitting 4.5 million before the PS3 hits 1.5 mill.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
I hadn't considered that possibility. That could be.cvxfreak said:
The other reason I felt safe to ignore MC's number was that Famitsu's GCN total when they stopped tracking it a few weeks back was 4.01 million, just a hair under what Nintendo says they shipped. If there are Qs in the mix for one or both trackers, though, that throws a wrench into things.
You can't imagine Q having sold less than the original Xbox, though? Ehhh, I dunno. Considering we never heard much about Q, for it to be 10% or more of GCN's Japanese sales would surprise me.
Cheesemeister
Member
PantherLotus said:
Bu-bu-but what about Trusty Bump?!
PantherLotus said:
What about Sigmabump?
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
Juwanna Peezadis
Member
I really want to see the 360 outsell the PS3 next week due to Trustybump. I think Panther's 360 estimate it too low though. I bet it'll be more in the 4-5k range. I don't expect Sigma to do much for the PS3 though.
No, this is not a ban bet.
Barf_the_Mog
powerless or are they? o_O
Juwanna Peezadis said:
You should feel confident if you did make a ban bet, though. It'll at the very least sell 5,000 consoles. I wonder if Panther is so sure of his estimate despite the release of Trusy Bell that he'd agree to a wager.
_Alkaline_
Member
Thanks everyone for the analysis and numbers, plus Viink for his report.
Nothing to surprising this week, but each week I just can't believe how big the gap between Wii and PS3 is growing.
Nothing to surprising this week, but each week I just can't believe how big the gap between Wii and PS3 is growing.