canova said:The worse part is that data is from 2007, when the U.S economy was at the peak.
OpinionatedCyborg said:So... white women have more booty by a technicality. Small victory.
empty vessel said:Yep, there is a kind of internal third world country here. The US has one of the industrial world's worst, if not the worst, wealth disparities.
QuadCore said:People can get out if they want. They choose not to.
OuterWorldVoice said:Since the median includes debt, the fact that more credit was available at that time may ironically make a better picture now. Debtors are a massive drag on that median. If they can't get cridt so easily it may change.
canova said:I very much doubt that
Median family net worth dropped 18% in 2008 alone. And that's for all family, and I bet you that single black female is worse off than 18%
http://caps.fool.com/Blogs/ViewPost.aspx?bpid=156492&t=01001529370998141183
I can't find data from 2009 yet
"Our government knows how to build wealth for people. They've done it for others and they can do it for all of us. They need to focus some attention on women of color. Look at the situation and see what we need."
OpinionatedCyborg said:So... white women have more booty by a technicality. Small victory.
OuterWorldVoice said:You maybe right, but with numbers that low, the problem is obviously related to availability of credit. Whatever the new numbers, they will have been affected dramatically by the amount of credit available.
empty vessel said:Can get out of what if they choose to? Poverty? Why, in your opinion, do black people choose poverty more than white people?
actually there was an interesting NPR story about how single black women are the least likely to marry outside of their race of any group and because of that and the fact that black men are definitely not solely dating black women that helps create situations like the one in this thread. I was going to start a thread about it but couldn't find the story to link.Jewbacca said:The interracial dating ads will surely fix these statistics.
QuadCore said:That's actually quite very easily to answer, but I will probably be labeled a racist and banned.
Please, answer it. I gotta hear this one.QuadCore said:That's actually quite very easily to answer, but I will probably be labeled a racist and banned.
QuadCore said:That's actually quite very easily to answer, but I will probably be labeled a racist and banned.
QuadCore said:That's actually quite very easily to answer, but I will probably be labeled a racist and banned.
QuadCore said:If I post a racist comment people will call me racist.
Tim the Wiz said:Do continue. And, please, preface your remarks by saying how you have black friends and that only the lurkers will support your brave non-PC "truth-speaking".
Even though I was expecting something like this, it's still surprising. At least you were right about one thing though. You will be banned. I like to give credit where it's due.QuadCore said:Black people in general think that they are owed something. Why? I don't know. Probably because of slavery or something. They are very demanding people. The term African American is the most ridiculous phrase in our English language. Sure they are some people who are from Africa and are now an American, but 99% of the blacks aren't. You are from American, you're an American. Not African American.
That said. Black people love to blame others than to try and fix the problem. Why are they poor? Well that's easy. The white men made them poor. No! That is not true. Sure their ancestors were slaves, but they aren't now and haven't been for a very very long time. But now they have every opportunity to, like any other American, in this country, make something for themselves.
So back again to the point. They continually want to rely upon other people to help them. They want handouts. They want reperation (sp?) from slavery. What would they do with that money? Probably waste it and still be in the exact same situation they are now. Why is it so ironic that most black men don't make it to college and end up in jail, prison, or a life of gangs?
They end up following their friends and their fatherly figures who half the time aren't there with the family anyways.
So I guess my main point is, and I'm sure this will probably be my last post on here for being banned, but black people in general do not have goals, desires, the will power, or more importantly the encouragement from people they rely upon to get out and obtain a better life.
Even the rappers whom have gotten out, still stay in that lifestyle. So sometimes it's not even a matter of money. It's a matter of, they are use to it, and have no desire to get out of it.
QuadCore said:Actually my best friend is black, and he agree with my sentiment on his own race.
QuadCore said:Black people in general think that they are owed something. Why? I don't know. Probably because of slavery or something. They are very demanding people. The term African American is the most ridiculous phrase in our English language. Sure they are some people who are from Africa and are now an American, but 99% of the blacks aren't. You are from American, you're an American. Not African American.
That said. Black people love to blame others than to try and fix the problem. Why are they poor? Well that's easy. The white men made them poor. No! That is not true. Sure their ancestors were slaves, but they aren't now and haven't been for a very very long time. But now they have every opportunity to, like any other American, in this country, make something for themselves.
So back again to the point. They continually want to rely upon other people to help them. They want handouts. They want reperation (sp?) from slavery. What would they do with that money? Probably waste it and still be in the exact same situation they are now. Why is it so ironic that most black men don't make it to college and end up in jail, prison, or a life of gangs?
They end up following their friends and their fatherly figures who half the time aren't there with the family anyways.
So I guess my main point is, and I'm sure this will probably be my last post on here for being banned, but black people in general do not have goals, desires, the will power, or more importantly the encouragement from people they rely upon to get out and obtain a better life.
Even the rappers whom have gotten out, still stay in that lifestyle. So sometimes it's not even a matter of money. It's a matter of, they are use to it, and have no desire to get out of it.
EmCeeGramr said:yeah i just don't get why these people are so demanding, they have the same opportunities as everyone else (is posting in a thread about how the median wealth for single black working women is five dollars)
also what is with the term "african american," i know a south african (they are very nice chaps, always afraid because their farms were taken over by "those" people, just goes to show you, eh)
also finally where is the WHITE entertainment television, or Ivory magazine?!?! i don't understand why they get their own magazine and tv channel and we don't
so anyway thanks for letting me call your show Rush, god bless you and god bless america, speak the truth brother-man
QuadCore said:Blah blah black people choose to be poor and they have the same opportunities etc etc.
OuterWorldVoice said:Let me explain this really simply:
Black people arrive in the States. They are enslaved. They have no rights. They are lynched, murdered, abused and ignored. They can't get jobs, go to college, enter the political realm.
Italians arrive in the States. They suffer persecution based solely on ethnicity and culture. They adapt, they move up. It takes many decades.
Jews arrive in the States. They suffer persecution based solely on ethnicity and culture. They adapt, they move up. It takes many decades.
Irish arrive in the States. They suffer persecution based solely on ethnicity and culture. They adapt, they move up. It takes many decades.
Scottish arrive in the States. They do sex with your women and help themselves to whatever they like. Carnegie builds some shit. Museums and whatnot.
In America, black people have suffered legal discrimination and apartheid literally up until we landed a man on the moon. If you think an underclass that is legally discriminated against and artificially subdued is the same as the ones above, then you're really fucking naive.
QuadCore said:Why can't black people adapt and step up like all the other immigrant? How is it that Middle Eastern people can come over here and make a good living for themselves when black people who have lived on this land for a very long time can't?
QuadCore said:Why can't black people adapt and step up like all the other immigrant? How is it that Middle Eastern people can come over here and make a good living for themselves when black people who have lived on this land for a very long time can't?
OuterWorldVoice said:Can you read? Because we legally retarded their culture, education, opportunities and representation for HUNDREDS OF YEARS.
It ain't hard b.
Black people are "becoming Italians" but it is not an even playing field and never has been.
I know we had a thread somewhere talking about the vicious cycle. Oh and angry black women (that thread about winter boos or something).QuadCore said:Why can some black people make it then? It's all about will power, the desire to achieve, and having a person who pushes you hard (in a good way) as well.
QuadCore said:Why can some black people make it then? It's all about will power, the desire to achieve, and having a person who pushes you hard (in a good way) as well.
You sound like one of those people who want to be non-politically correct just for the sake of being non-politically correct. I find these people more annoying than the overly-politically correct people.QuadCore said:The term African American is the most ridiculous phrase in our English language. Sure they are some people who are from Africa and are now an American, but 99% of the blacks aren't. You are from American, you're an American. Not African American.
Protip: Slavery may have ended back in 1863, but government and legally-sponsored institutional racism severely disadvantaging black people was still alive and kicking not 50 years ago. In terms of generations, your parents probably lived through the Civil Rights era (your grandparents almost certainly did).QuadCore said:Black people in general think that they are owed something. Why? I don't know. Probably because of slavery or something. They are very demanding people. The term African American is the most ridiculous phrase in our English language. Sure they are some people who are from Africa and are now an American, but 99% of the blacks aren't. You are from American, you're an American. Not African American.
That said. Black people love to blame others than to try and fix the problem. Why are they poor? Well that's easy. The white men made them poor. No! That is not true. Sure their ancestors were slaves, but they aren't now and haven't been for a very very long time. But now they have every opportunity to, like any other American, in this country, make something for themselves.
So back again to the point. They continually want to rely upon other people to help them. They want handouts. They want reperation (sp?) from slavery. What would they do with that money? Probably waste it and still be in the exact same situation they are now. Why is it so ironic that most black men don't make it to college and end up in jail, prison, or a life of gangs?
They end up following their friends and their fatherly figures who half the time aren't there with the family anyways.
So I guess my main point is, and I'm sure this will probably be my last post on here for being banned, but black people in general do not have goals, desires, the will power, or more importantly the encouragement from people they rely upon to get out and obtain a better life.
Even the rappers whom have gotten out, still stay in that lifestyle. So sometimes it's not even a matter of money. It's a matter of, they are use to it, and have no desire to get out of it.
QuadCore said:Black people in general think that they are owed something. Why? I don't know. Probably because of slavery or something. They are very demanding people. The term African American is the most ridiculous phrase in our English language. Sure they are some people who are from Africa and are now an American, but 99% of the blacks aren't. You are from American, you're an American. Not African American.
That said. Black people love to blame others than to try and fix the problem. Why are they poor? Well that's easy. The white men made them poor. No! That is not true. Sure their ancestors were slaves, but they aren't now and haven't been for a very very long time. But now they have every opportunity to, like any other American, in this country, make something for themselves.
So back again to the point. They continually want to rely upon other people to help them. They want handouts. They want reperation (sp?) from slavery. What would they do with that money? Probably waste it and still be in the exact same situation they are now. Why is it so ironic that most black men don't make it to college and end up in jail, prison, or a life of gangs?
They end up following their friends and their fatherly figures who half the time aren't there with the family anyways.
So I guess my main point is, and I'm sure this will probably be my last post on here for being banned, but black people in general do not have goals, desires, the will power, or more importantly the encouragement from people they rely upon to get out and obtain a better life.
Even the rappers whom have gotten out, still stay in that lifestyle. So sometimes it's not even a matter of money. It's a matter of, they are use to it, and have no desire to get out of it.
OrangeGrayBlue said:So what's the median after you remove Oprah? $1.48?
QuadCore said:Why can some black people make it then? It's all about will power, the desire to achieve, and having a person who pushes you hard (in a good way) as well.
viciouskillersquirrel said:Protip: Slavery may have ended back in 1863, but government and legally-sponsored institutional racism severely disadvantaging black people was still alive and kicking not 50 years ago. In terms of generations, your parents probably lived through the Civil Rights era (your grandparents almost certainly did).
Don't think that Civil Rights ended racism either. The Tuskegee Syphilis study ended in 1972 - people born back then are only 38 today. As long as we're within living memory of the events, they are always relevant.
:lol It never failsQuadCore said:Actually my best friend is black
You do realize that exceptions don't make the rule, right?QuadCore said:Why can some black people make it then? It's all about will power, the desire to achieve, and having a person who pushes you hard (in a good way) as well.
QuadCore said:And yet there have been many cases of black people who have overcome their odds and defeated it.
Davidion said:You do realize that exceptions don't make the rule, right?
And here I thought the Oprah comment couldn't be topped in this thread.
there have also been white people who win the lottery. Ergo, every white person can win the lottery but why don't they?! WHY DON'T THEY?! Those lazy asses. Don't get me wrong my best friend is white.QuadCore said:And yet there have been many cases of black people who have overcome their odds and defeated it.
Lol. Not only did you go there, you went back for seconds.QuadCore said:Black people in general think that they are owed something. Why? I don't know. Probably because of slavery or something. They are very demanding people. The term African American is the most ridiculous phrase in our English language. Sure they are some people who are from Africa and are now an American, but 99% of the blacks aren't. You are from American, you're an American. Not African American.
That said. Black people love to blame others than to try and fix the problem. Why are they poor? Well that's easy. The white men made them poor. No! That is not true. Sure their ancestors were slaves, but they aren't now and haven't been for a very very long time. But now they have every opportunity to, like any other American, in this country, make something for themselves.
So back again to the point. They continually want to rely upon other people to help them. They want handouts. They want reperation (sp?) from slavery. What would they do with that money? Probably waste it and still be in the exact same situation they are now. Why is it so ironic that most black men don't make it to college and end up in jail, prison, or a life of gangs?
They end up following their friends and their fatherly figures who half the time aren't there with the family anyways.
So I guess my main point is, and I'm sure this will probably be my last post on here for being banned, but black people in general do not have goals, desires, the will power, or more importantly the encouragement from people they rely upon to get out and obtain a better life.
Even the rappers whom have gotten out, still stay in that lifestyle. So sometimes it's not even a matter of money. It's a matter of, they are use to it, and have no desire to get out of it.
QuadCore said:And yet there have been many cases of black people who have overcome their odds and defeated it.
QuadCore said:There should be no exceptions, but they keep finding them.
ronito said:there have also been white people who win the lottery. Ergo, every white person can win the lottery but why don't they?! WHY DON'T THEY?! Those lazy asses. Don't get me wrong my best friend is white.