Statue of Limitation
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Or give them the power of sight, that'd be cool.
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Metal Gear Solid V The Phantom Pain E3 Full Gameplay Demo [Up: NEW official version!]
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Or give them the power of sight, that'd be cool.
Dick Justice
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Right! That's what I was saying, guys.All of these mechanics are optional, so if a player doesn't like them - turn it off! (Was just adding to your point that the game was being played by a designer and these features aren't as overpowered as one may make them out to be.)
Problem is that turning it off makes it incredibly hard to take an enemy out before they sound an alarm. It'd be nice if they gave you a slightly longer window between being seen and the guy radioing for backup.
So basically because Snake is a tight ass.
*Radio clicks*
Snake: "Snake here. Gonna Fulton myself for immediate extraction as area is hot"
Radio Operator: "Sure thing sir, That'll be a one off payment of $150 or why not spread the cost with 3 easy payments of $49.95"
Snake: "erm on second thoughts just send in a chopper."
Nightengale
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Fulton has a 20% failure rate. I don't know if I want to ride a balloon where I'd die once in 5 tries.
Love Deterrence
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Yeah, for sure! I was surprised that I could literally turn everything off in Ground Zeroes, and it didn't break the game.
Actually, in The Phantom Pain, guards will have to call in for backup. Unlike Ground Zeroes, in which the base insta-Alerts when the player is detected!
BurnOutBrighter
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Damn I haven't been keeping up. This all sounds great, tying the SP with the MP like this. Can't wait to invade bases and see how they set everything up, and then figuring out a way to make an impregnable fortress for myself.
yeah i didn't like the fulton stuff, from what i remembered the balloons were oddly invisible to enemies even when they were in places where they would obviously be seen, although i'm not sure about that. i hope they include something like that in this, so that there is still some challenge to getting rid of bodies.
have they said this is happening? oh god that would be amazing
have they said this is happening? oh god that would be amazing
Peace Walker is pure awful. Play Ground Zeroes instead.
That's the idea behind getting spotted. Ideally, if it wasn't so easy to escape, you would get a game over screen once the alarm goes off, unless you are really good at hiding.
Graphics Horse
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Did anyone notice that the 'sheep poop' actually happens to anyone he fultons?
Screaming Meat
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Let's be fair here, PW was designed from the ground up around the (limited) hardware. PW's bosses are one blemish in a series known for it's amazing boss battles. It's like, if you had sex and it was great except for the last time (that one time), it doesn't automatically mean it's going to be shit forevermore, y'know?
Stone Ocean
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The LA studio was working on it as far as we know.
Love Deterrence
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Yes, as a collaborative effort between Kojima Productions (Japan) and Kojima Productions Los Angeles!
I imaged a boss battle in Peace Walker with Zadornov, where he would run around like the old MGS bosses, and fire stuff from his robot arm which I had to avoid, etc. It would have been awesome, the engine was clearly capable of it, and it made sense in the story. But it never happened in the game. Instead you have a ton of nonsense "Find Zadornov!!!" missions at the end of the game. Lame as hell.
MGS4 bosses were pretty poor too.
Yeah, Kojima Productions LA is helping to develop it.
It was a gameplay PRESENTATION. Jackie prepped this whole thing for 1000 hours. It all was plant not getting caught until the end. So when he fultons the jeep he knew no guard could see it. I'm pretty sure if you fulton a container near a guard they would notice.
Well that one soldier behind the car sure noticed it fly away. Maybe the others weren't facing the right way, or maybe, just maybe, the demo was gimped to allow for smoother gameplay demonstration?
Nightengale
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PW boss battles were also designed to be replayed repeatedly/endlessly to grind for parts.
Nightengale
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Rogue Agent
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Kojima stated that he includes all this weird stuff in the gameplay so that the player can take some of that stress off when experiencing the dry and serious cutscenes. LOL.
Dick Justice
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Good to hear, do you have a source for that?
Having the whole base go on alert within 2 seconds of being spotted by a guard in GZ was bullshit, sorry. I'd have preferred it if they did it like in MGS2, but with a smaller timeframe so it wouldn't be so easy to take an enemy out before he radios in.
I would not exactly call the Zadornov missions nonsense, at least they were not your generic 1 vs 1 gun fight, which I would have appreciated as well but PW clearly was all about the mech bosses, which I found pretty cool.
Ew wtf ew no ew.
matrix-cat
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There are multiple cardboard box levels.
So popping in and out the top, being able to Fulton and hold up guards from inside, and exploding out the front flap are all features of the Level One cardboard box? At this rate, Level 5 is just going to be a straight up Metal Gear.
Stone Ocean
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The RAY fight tho
lol. A true god would photoshop the walking animation of this guy into the MGS gif now. One can dream.. xD
CaptainTiptop
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I'm going to spend the entire game in a cardboard box.
Screaming Meat
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I dunno, MGS4 was clearly a case of Kojima dragging his feet in places, but I liked Laughing Octopus, Advent Palace, Vamp, Crying Wolf, the Metal Gear tete-a-tete, Screaming Mantis and the tramp fight at the end. Not all series highlights, sure, but they were probably some of the best parts of the game.
It's just dirt. It also happens to the container.
Only someone that doesn't like MGS would say something like that.
There are multiple cardboard box levels.
I'm sure there's several types of boxes all with multiple levels like in Peace Walker.
But Peace Walker is MGS too
Fair enough, that's a good point, I agree.
I think the problem with MGS4 is that the entire game was built on being a pure spectacle. It's like a huge Summer Blockbuster with insane special effects and huge set pieces. The first time you go through it, it's like "OMG WOW LOOK AT ALL THIS OMG!!!!". But every time I replayed parts of it after the initial hype, it's clearly not a particularly good game. There are some really fun parts, and not all the bosses are bad, but a lot of it sacrifices actual gameplay for spectacle instead - like the Ray fight and the final "boss" fight which are really just glorified QTEs.
Screaming Meat
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I liked PW too. I could accept the fact that it was designed from the ground up for handheld, though... ;P
Not the best perhaps, but damn good. My favorite portable game.
BurnOutBrighter
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Isn't it just compensating to show where you'll actually hit an object, so it doesn't screw up your aim up close?
Stone Ocean
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Yeah, I get what you mean. Compared to most bosses in the series, they are a bit underwhelming, yes. But seeing them for what they are, I still really enjoy them.
I could do without another Crying Wolf battle though.
It's showing you that you're aiming at the wall. It would probably mess you up more if it wasn't there because you'd be shooting at walls when you didn't realize it.
Graphics Horse
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Looking at Snake actually climbing into his supply box I wonder if that's what C.boxes were going to be reduced to before they decided to bring them back Though looking at all the daft stuff in this game I question if they were ever genuinely going to remove it.
Heh, it probably just has different camo abilities and things like that, I doubt the moves will change.
Heh, it probably just has different camo abilities and things like that, I doubt the moves will change.
Vire
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I have no problem aiming in any other third person shooter where the reticule doesn't spaz.
Love Deterrence
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"I noticed that the “alert” phase did not start IMMEDIATELY, right after he missed, the enemy seemed to have hit an alarm that he carried(?)" (Hope this helps and his information was accurate!)
That's because almost every other third person shooter won't recognize there's an object in your way and adjust your aim accordingly. If you use first person mode in MGSV though you basically remove this issue completely.
Dick Justice
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Saw the gameplay of the moment he describes, doesn't seem hugely different from GZ.
I dont know why, maybe it's the order of the words, but I'm cracking up over this.
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