that's great if you only want one xbox one . I have 5 xbox 360s that I want to replace at some point in the future that all stream different channels at the same time. So miracast doesn't help
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Microsoft: "Xbox One isn't a native media center extender."
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that's great if you only want one xbox one . I have 5 xbox 360s that I want to replace at some point in the future that all stream different channels at the same time. So miracast doesn't help
Khalifa Jayy
Banned
Damn amirox, if this were a rap battle, you would have just ether'd the XBOne and ended it's career, son. Yikes. I don't think I've ever seen one company do so many on the fly policy changes before launching the successor to it's most successful product.
Whiten didn't say you couldn't stream to the Xbox One. He specifically said there is no "native windows media extender client". He's speaking only about Windows Media Centre, which is a specific product. Even if I never booted up the windows media extender in the Xbox 360, I could still use a media server to stream content to the 360. Doesn't matter if was a windows share, or a PS3 media server, or TVserity.
we all got that. windows media extender isn't avalible for the xbox one. Which sucks for those of us that use it.
Watercooler they said.
Plug a 360 or cheap extender(IR blaster could work with this, not sure about the 360 and if you couldn't, using a controller would be worse imo) into your Bone HDMI In?
That was good, that was real good...
it may be possible , but its a lot of hassle. The 360 doesn't exactly sip power and neither does the one.
My plan was to replace an xbox 360 and bluray player one at a time in the house. Not to buy another $500 device to plug into a device I spent $200-$400 on
I hear ya dude. Sounds sucky, but figured there might be some $35-$50 extenders out there that could work until some solution was developed for the Bone.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
NullPointer
Member
Jesus, all Microsft had to do was make an upgraded 360 and they would have been swimming in cash. Then at that point they could have lead a value driven push to the "features" they think the market wants instead of forcing it upon the market.
How the fuck do you go from that to this abortion? I'll never understand the mentality of suits always looking for shortcuts to the pots of money.
How the fuck do you go from that to this abortion? I'll never understand the mentality of suits always looking for shortcuts to the pots of money.
NullPointer
Member
You have a phone that runs a Windows Media Center Extender?
Show me my media center extender options.
Apart from "ditch it", I can't. What's so essential about Media Center?
OTA HDTV recording which can be streamed to various media center extenders seems to be the main feature people are concerned about. Basically people who have "cut the cable" and use Media Center as a DVR system for local HD channels without the need for subscription services of inferior video and sound quality like Hulu Plus.
At least that's what I gathered from the people that use Media Center with 360 in this thread. I may be wrong though.
I don't really think you have options outside of the 360. Especially if you're on/planning to be on Windows 8 since Windows 8 broke a lot of media center extender compatibility outside of the 360. I loved media center but sadly the writing was on the wall a while ago.
It was a way for people to extend DVR functionality to different rooms while only having one main machine handling most of the work. Those people have legitimate complaints. All the other complaints are based on an assumption that DLNA won't be there (a crazy assumption that they made from an answer about media center extender).
MightyHedgehog
Member
I don't see the reason for all worry. An app will surely be available to cover it unless people seriously believe X1 won't support such a basic feature.
I bet my left nut that they (or a 3rd party) will release an app via the store to allow streaming of all media types. And of course it will be a paid app. As long as it's something reasonable in the range of £5-£10 I'd be happy with that as a solution.
OP there will definitely be a solution for this, as I also want this feature badly. I'm positive this will come in the form of an app.
Edit: Wait a minute, doesn't X1 support miracast and wifi-direct?
OP there will definitely be a solution for this, as I also want this feature badly. I'm positive this will come in the form of an app.
Edit: Wait a minute, doesn't X1 support miracast and wifi-direct?
Papacheeks
Banned
"DLNA was owned by Sony and recently this past year sold for 458 Million."
Actually I'm correcting myself it was this that Sony sold DENA;
http://www.vg247.com/2013/03/04/sony-liquidates-more-assets-drops-dena-shares/
AlanzTalon
Member
I was planning on just keeping my HTPC plugged into the Xbox HDMI in and using the TV function as intended. My bigger concern is how much it will complicate my harmony remote controlling the PC, how well it will control via IR to the PC dongle, and if XBMC on the PC will even be viable through it.
It is the way of life, shit upgrades, we who go the hard way with HTPC know the game. We deal.
I am OTA only, so really I am happy any way I can get the signal out from my HDhomeruns as smoothly as possible, bonus if my win7 can get its interface out to Xbox without too much trouble.
Just gotta keep it wife friendly.
Worst case is the PC stays on its own HDMI in.
It is the way of life, shit upgrades, we who go the hard way with HTPC know the game. We deal.
I am OTA only, so really I am happy any way I can get the signal out from my HDhomeruns as smoothly as possible, bonus if my win7 can get its interface out to Xbox without too much trouble.
Just gotta keep it wife friendly.
Worst case is the PC stays on its own HDMI in.
fastford58
Member
I still don't know what is going on. Part of my aversion to this system is the incredibly muddled messaging.
AlanzTalon
Member
It is new. Things will clarify once it is in stores, reviews and breakdowns are published. In the months after release apps will be released to fill the use gaps, tutorials will be written, forums will fill out and whatever the specific barrier we have to our particular setup will have a fix.
It is how it always goes. Same thing happened with cable cards, with win Vista to win 7 then to win 8, network tuners, dlna, all the bs we wade through building an HTPC.
You make it work or you figure something else out. Nothing more to it.
Ive posted before but basicly I save hundreds a year by using media center instead of dvrs from the csble companies
AlanzTalon
Member
Maybe there is nothing to say. Media Center is practically End of Life. It is clear that they want streaming apps as the video platform.
It has to be a tiny minority still using 360s as extenders, and I am sure their are much higher priorities.
If it works, great but I wouldn't count on it. Or buy a cheap 360 and daisy chain it to the Xbox One. Media Center and backwards compatibility in one fell swoop.
CambriaRising
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Quadraphonic
Member
One of the perks of Windows Media Center was how it downloaded guide data for free.
Tivo and other DVRs actually charge a monthly or lifetime fee for that.
I guess MS would rather kill off MCEs than deal with providing a free service.
Tivo and other DVRs actually charge a monthly or lifetime fee for that.
I guess MS would rather kill off MCEs than deal with providing a free service.
It wasn't intended that way... Microsoft has just been making it so easy this go around. And I also think it's a sort of service to myself, even if no one else wants it, to try to keep track of these companies and their confused PR. I did a similar thing back before the 180s to illustrate the level of fuck ups that have surrounded the Xbox One unveiling, and that list was much, much larger. If I combined every change and confused PR move since I made THAT list, i can probably double its size lol
I have my htpc on another floor. Its eired directly to my router. So there is no way im moving it amd having to deal with wifi streaming
To bad ms is silent about this
Really sucks. I canceled my preorder already.
That does suck. So what are you going to do now? Figure out how to get it all working with PCs or something like that?
Delusibeta
Banned
tl;dr edition: native Windows Media Centre support is out, but I've heard that DLNA support is in, so I would imagine it's possible to jury-rig WMC compatibility.
Nope. Netflix. Cheaters must pay.
Which is funny, because so many of my friends used their 360s for this alone. They've all since moved on to Raspberry Pis and shit.
tokyostomp
Banned
All I want to know is if next gen systems will play MKVs
antiquegamer
Member
Because they were chasing Apple and Google TV box and not game console. The Kinect was suppose to make it easy to control the TV (via voices command). The problem is they price this thing at $500.00 and then it didn't really have all the TV functions.
I agree that they could do 360X10, retain all backward compatibility (which would have gotten them many Xbox 360 owners) and huge digital library. At this point I wouldn't be surprise if stuffs in the Xbox Live stores aren't going to be ready when Xbox One launch. They are now handling three difference marketplace, Windows RT, Xbox and Windows Phone. It's no wonder they axed Zune and Windows Live.
Stick with my fleet of 360s. Use the $700 in preordered xbox one stuff towards a video card for my gaming pc
Personally I never liked the implementation of windows media center. It was superlaggy if you had a sizable library. I always preferred just transcoding via other methods. I suppose if you actually use your computer As your tv and/Or DVR you can be upset. I'd probably go with the Hdmi input for that stuff.
Visualante2
Member
One step forward two steps back with this company.
Join the darkside, luke.
Na I gave up on the super nintendo controller 15 plus years ago. Thing hurts my hands like no tom.orow.
The ps4 to me is just a weaker pc. I was looking foward to many of the other features the one had
That blows. You're one of the few around that I see was excited about the XOne. Sorry it didn't work out for you at launch.
Hopefully they get something working for situations like yours.