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NBA 2017 Playoffs |OT| WE DID IT
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Shamrock7r
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If you can find a fault in Kawhi's game, it's that he struggled at times when double teamed and had trouble getting the ball out. Every year he improves some aspect of his game in a major way. I have no doubt that his focus this offseason is going to be about passing and playmaking, and getting his assists up to the 6 or 7 mark (although that's tough on the Spurs as they are the kings of the hockey assist)
LegendofDragoonLives
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How about this then? Maybe there would be more sympathy for Spurs if LMA and Dedmond didn't pull moves that were just as dirty if not worse. Lets also not act like Spurs winning g1 would have meant they would have won the series or that Kawhi dominating for one half would have continued onwards at that level for every game. A Kawhi led team hasn't made an nba finals and unless CP3 heads there this summer, I only see this path continuing for a few more years.
Pop should have had the sensibility to keep Kawhi out of the game. He didn't even touch Lee btw, he literally hurt his ankle by himself the first time. Still think Zaza is a dirty pos for doing what he did.
Kawhi has a couple weaknesses, mainly in regards to creating for others but not every forward is a LeBron ya know? He improved massively in creating his own shot, is a fantastic shooter, and I'm excited to see him next year.
Also excited to see Warriors/Cavs. Hope no one gets hurt and it's a good 7 game series.
Also excited to see Warriors/Cavs. Hope no one gets hurt and it's a good 7 game series.
Andrew Korenchkin
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Does anybody think the Warriors sweep through the Western Conference is more impressive than the Lakers one?
Serious question.
Serious question.
No one does
Lakers faced real competition
based on difficulty, Lakers run on 2001 was the second most difficult playoff run ever
the_batman
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Those Lakers played much tougher and experienced teams, but they also had Shaq and Kobe
Monochromaticx
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Calling it now, Your 2017-18 MVP
Dude looks like he is already plotting his revenge tour
Kawhi-kun 😭😭
Calling it now, Your 2017-18 MVP
Dude looks like he is already plotting his revenge tour
I don't think Kawhi knows what revenge is.
That said I agree on him being MVP.
Unless KD leaves GSW, then it will be Curry. But KD won't, so that's that
Calling it now, Your 2017-18 MVP
Dude looks like he is already plotting his revenge tour
he look like his younger brother is getting yelled at and he's waiting to see if their parents gonna turn to him
BlackNMild2k1
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What Zaza did was unfortunate and careless, but not likely intentional. What LMA tried to do twice, looked like half ass attempts at looking like careless accidents, but executed so poorly that they not only failed, but looked intentional. What Dedmond did was just plain dirty.
That's wrong. He stepped on David Lee's foot when he wandered onto the sideline and tried to run back onto the court.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbwUgsz8i3g
ftfy
RedAssedApe
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that's just kawhi's face all the time.
What all three players did was dirty as hell and upsetting to see as a basketball fan.
Andrew Korenchkin
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Warriors do have Durant, Curry, Thompson, and Draymond on the same team, though.
Walter White
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I don't know how people can say Pachuli didn't do it intentionally. The dude clearly took one more step to slide his foot under there. Whether he knew he slid it under the right spot, I don't know, but I don't know how you can watch that play over and over and not see it as intentional.
kaiju
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I'm already expecting to Simmons leave. No doubt a team out there gonna offer him some mad money outside the range of what Spurs can match. But dude, deserves it.
What? Wouldn't this only be the first or second year of a Kawhi led team? And dude carried us all the way to the WCF's on what was thought to be transition phase after Duncan retired and Spurs adding like 7 new players.
Calling it now, Your 2017-18 MVP
Dude looks like he is already plotting his revenge tour
Well, if we go by the rate his stats are going.
Everyone does. No one cares about LA anymore. And I actually heard that the Lakers may be relocating soon.
Andrew Korenchkin
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You wish!
Congrats Golden State!
Have to say dubs haven't played anywhere near their best aside from the 2nd half of game 1 west finals when Spurs were down Leonard anyway.
They need to be wary of the Cavs cause Cavs are playing out of their minds right now.
Sorry to Spurs fans who were robbed of a decent west conference finals and had to deal with a stack of injuries. Love Pop usually but he went too far with the Zaza comments. Spurs still the best organisation in the business. Looking to see how LMA does in the offseason. If there was one thing this series showed it was that LMA got exposed badly.
Have to say dubs haven't played anywhere near their best aside from the 2nd half of game 1 west finals when Spurs were down Leonard anyway.
They need to be wary of the Cavs cause Cavs are playing out of their minds right now.
Sorry to Spurs fans who were robbed of a decent west conference finals and had to deal with a stack of injuries. Love Pop usually but he went too far with the Zaza comments. Spurs still the best organisation in the business. Looking to see how LMA does in the offseason. If there was one thing this series showed it was that LMA got exposed badly.
True Savior
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Fuck Zaza cannot be reinforced enough. Dude is a shitbag and robbed us of a great series. After the way the Warriors handled the balls-kicking of Green last year and this incident, it's hard to root for them. But they play great basketball so between them and the Cavs I might lean onto their side.
Royce McCutcheon
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Damm it cavs, could have been done today
Officerrob
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The finals better be great, because these have been the worst playoffs that I can remember
No. You could make an argument that this years run was easier than their run two years ago that everyone claimed was a cakewalk. They benefited from injuries in every round this year. Nurkic on Portland, Hill on Utah, and Kawhi on San Antonio.
At least they had to play Memphis and Houston at full strength in their title run in 2015.
This is already the worst playoffs ever, even if the Finals turn out great.
So everyone just forgot about tony parker?
natural shooting motion lol
LyleLanley
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This is kind of what I was talking about before. What the Warriors are doing is very impressive and I could not give any less of a shit about it.
PadWarrior
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Regular season award blah blah blah. But, yeah, Warriors have been playing through the entirety of the playoffs with a shooting guard who is defending well but can't shoot (so, like many other shooting guards). Just imagine if the real Klay shows up and Kerr comes back.
Devilgunman
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He was already better at being point-forward once Parker was done for the season but the Spur has finally found a future PG in Murray anyway so Kawhi can go back and do what he does best (aka everything).
Duxxy3
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Any thoughts on Chris Paul to the Spurs?
Is current Klay better than Shumpert or JR?
DerangedHermit
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Gully State
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Clippers are gonna max CP3. He's the president of the NBPA. Just like Lebron, it would look really bad if he went somewhere else and took significantly less money.
Lionel Richie
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No. The Lakers beat the Blazers, Kings and Spurs in a row and all three of those teams were really really good.
A closer question would be if those Lakers would beat the current Warriors team. I think they would because Shaq that year was a force of nature, but it would be damn close.
Devilgunman
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Hell no. The Spur barely has a cap to work with this offseason, especially if they can't move Pau Gasol. They have so many spots to fill with so little money. Jonathon Simmon is definitely gone for a huge paycheck somewhere. Manu is gone as we all know. Dewayne Dedmon is very likely gone for money as well. Parker will be gone for god know how long. Now that's 4 spots that the Spur need to fill
Starting PG - that's definitely Murray spot. He's amazing in his limited time in this playoff. He's the part of Spur future.
Athletic big - Dennis Bertan will fill this. Just like Murray, he really shines in this playoff and he's a really promising stretch 4, something the Spur doesn't have since Matt Bonner.
Slashing Wing off the bench - Now I don't know what they will do with this. Kyle Anderson can play this roll but he rarely cuts and is just too damn slow.
Back up PG - Patty Mills is a FA this year and I don't think the Spur will match anything more than $8m for Mills. He is very inconsistent and liable on defense despite being a vet in this team. Parker might accept this roll when he comes back but the team still need to find a temporary PG at least for the beginning of the season.
As you can see, there is no reason for the Spur to chase after CP3 since not only they will have to overpay him but he will also be a burden for Murray's development. I'm sure Pop and Buford will do their magic and find some lost gems somewhere.
Shaq will just step on Draymond to the rim. People tend to forget what a monster Shaq used to be.
I disagree. CP3 is one of the top 10 players in the league; if he wants to come you do what you can to get him. Dejounte Murray is a nice player but you don't structure your team building around him.
I also think your analysis of a hypothetical Warriors - Lakers lineup is very simplistic. While Shaq was a great and dominant player on the offensive end, I think that Lakers team would have struggled greatly at dealing with the Warriors 3-point, perimeter-oriented attack. They had no competent wing defenders outside of Kobe on a good day.
Same. I couldn't stand when they would occasionally kick our asses (Kings) back in the day. And I grew kinda pissed at them for being so good for so many damn years, lol. But then I realized I should be applauding them.
They were SO fun to watch though. Manu and Parker (and obviously Duncan) were each one of a kind in their own ways. Two of the very best I've ever seen
True Savior
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I'm not sure you're serious.
Gully State
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one of the biggest weaknesses that doesn't get mentioned is how Shaq was poor defending the 1-5 pick and roll. if a player like bibby could exploit it with simple freethrow extended line jumpers.. imagine the havoc Curry would create having to force Shaq to come out and defend the 3.
There has been a 12-0 before? I thought Warriors were the first
Into the Light
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I was so bummed when the Lakers didn't get Aldrige. I didn't realize he is so stiff in his movements, and slow. He is not the center I thought he was. I think i would take McGee over him lol i never thought Id say that.
Into the Light
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I think that was when the quarter conf was best of 5, when the Lakers swept to the finals.
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