Seraphinianus
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uh yeah, about that Sigma 2 ending...NG3 spoilers from the other thread:
apparently it meant nothing. Kasumi's not in.
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uh yeah, about that Sigma 2 ending...NG3 spoilers from the other thread:
RETCONS in Sigma 3!
Hmm. Stll looks a lot like 4. eg Lots of stuns and the ground game.
THIS!
THIS SO FUCKING MUCH!
lol. Power blows can be cancelled, right?
Going to be the ultimate counter bait.
There still are a couple of things worth noting, even in spite of some similarities. For example, as has been reiterated, "DAT LAUNCH HEIGHT".
The Akira trailer seemed to be based on a build milestone where the changes that have been made are even more evident. So, in short, most of what we see and will see based on this DOA5 alpha/demo is already outdated! :lol
I am so excited for this. Have not played DOA ever since it migrated to the xbox, (well, I played some DOA3 at my friend's place) and before that I played both 1 and 2 religiously.
The new models, the stages... everything looks so good. My only remaining fear is about the costumes, but thinking about it, in this day of DLC, they would be pretty dumb NOT to include tons of them... so I guess I'm covered.
...now to wait another half a year. :|
The new models, the stages... everything looks so good. My only remaining fear is about the costumes, but thinking about it, in this day of DLC, they would be pretty dumb NOT to include tons of them... so I guess I'm covered.
...now to wait another half a year. :|
Lucky.
Anyone know when the normal demo might hit? I think it was posted before, but I can't find it.
Tuesday Tuesday Tuesday!
Seraphinianus
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I wonder if I can buy the NG3 collector's edition and sell off all the extras + game for close to the asking price ($99.) I really want the 4 character demo...
So...demo is out...without ng3.
Woah, really? I know Ninja Gaiden 3 comes come Tuesday with a DOA5 demo. I thought that was going to be exclusive for awhile before coming available to everyone....
Master Thespian
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It seems like the hold windows and stun thresholds are smaller, but it could just be wishful thinking after having watched the videos about a thousand times.
Hopefully this means Team Ninja is making an effort to not have 4 characters shit on the rest of the cast.
sixteen-bit
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I think that's what the poster was referring to.
Except the public available demo only has two characters per platform in it. NG3's demo has all four characters provided.
I thought the CE only had all four characters.
The original announcement was that NG3 came with a demo of console specific characters, but the CE's would contain all four characters. Don't know how that's changed.
Is Ayane on the ps3 public demo?
This is what I thought.
sixteen-bit
Member
Is that so?
I thought the NG3 Collectors edition had the 4 characters and regular edition had 2
only NG3 CE's demo has all 4 characters.
normal edition of NG3 had 2 characters each, depending on console for japan(PS3 had ayane and Hayate, XBOX360 has Hayabusa and Hitomi), and where you buy for US (Amazon has Ayane and Hayate, Gamestop has Hayabusa and Hitomi)
There is rumor of public demo but its not official
normal edition of NG3 had 2 characters each, depending on console for japan(PS3 had ayane and Hayate, XBOX360 has Hayabusa and Hitomi), and where you buy for US (Amazon has Ayane and Hayate, Gamestop has Hayabusa and Hitomi)
There is rumor of public demo but its not official
Master Thespian
Member
Wait...what? Where?
I will be really unhappy if they actually release the same demo online.
They should have just released free demo online with 2 characters, and premium demo with 4 characters for NG2 preorders. They made it sound like the demo was exclusive for preorders and CEs.
Well, if they release hitomi and haybusa demo, at least I can try that one out as well.
They should have just released free demo online with 2 characters, and premium demo with 4 characters for NG2 preorders. They made it sound like the demo was exclusive for preorders and CEs.
Well, if they release hitomi and haybusa demo, at least I can try that one out as well.
Not on Japanese or Hong Kong PS3 marketplace anyways...
Sorry for confusion...I was responding to someone saying the demo would be out on Tuesday without the need for ng3.
Master Thespian
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Ahhh. Cool.
Honestly, I'd say that's pretty fair. All of his ranged attacks are unsafe, punishable or just plain slow. Hayate even has a version of his best crush (2f+k, imo). He mightn't be a three (he's still better than most), but he can definitely be out-striked by Ayane and Hayate. It's the easy access to the izuna drop that truly makes him blitz the rest of the cast.
Losing Izuna drop on all punch holds would also drop him a notch or two in the damage department.
Master Thespian
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Some characters will be getting more than just the mid advanced holds. I wouldn't be surprised to see them show up there. Although having them as advanced instead of normal still makes it a nerf. GOOD.
Master Thespian
Member
Expert holds mean you have to guess punch or kick in addition to hit level, which you don't have to do on normal holds. I'm not sure if the frames are any tighter.
Um... no. Hayabusa is good for more than just the Izuna Drop. He is OP in DOA4 for so many reasons.
Expert Holds are only for mid-punch/kick. So there's no guessing involved outside of the normal counterhold guessing. If you're going to guess a mid hold, you do the Expert version.
It's not a separate advanced hold for mid punch/kick?
He still would only have izuna off of one hold as opposed to 3.
Master Thespian
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Universal expert holds are mid only. Characters like Bayman and Lei-Fang had a full suite of advanced holds previously and will most likely continue to do so. I speculated that it's possible for Hayabusa to regain the Inuza Drop for all levels using the advanced/expert hold inputs. The expert mid hold is not just substituted for the normal mid hold. Normal mid hold grabs punches and kicks, expert hold is broken into two. If you feel confident in guessing the hit level and not the attack type, you chose the normal mid hold. And we still don't know if the mid expert holds have the same frames as the mid normal holds.
Master Thespian
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Most likely P+K and K+G respectively.
Right, but I mean I wonder if this a new universal thing. p+k w/ ayane, for example, would just be her spinney slap thing. Not really a "powerful punch." k+g would be a launcher.
Master Thespian
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That poster was from an event that was almost exclusively filled with journalists who had no idea how to play DOA. I think it was just an easy naming convention to help them understand the general concept.
It is, but in DOA4 and DOA2U the mid hold was divided into punch and kick, so that's nothing new.
I made no mention of advanced holds. While I agree that Bayman and Lei-Fang will probably still have them, I was only talking about the "new" Expert Holds. Right now there's been no indication that Hayabusa will have advanced holds. All we know is that his Izuna Drop holds are likely Expert Holds (although we don't even really know that).
I'm also hoping that the frames are severely reduced on all holds. I'm thinking more along the lines of 5/7/30, but I doubt that will happen.
Master Thespian
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I know. *I* did in the original post I made when I said "I wouldn't be surprised" if they gave him the Izuna Drop back for all levels as advanced holds given:
a) their irresistible urge to make him ridiculously overpowered
b) what we now know is his five block hold rating.
Master has another new video up: Ryu vs. Ayane. If you don't wanna hear him blab about it then just skip to 5:55.
Ayane hitting the crane was pretty cool.
He'd still definitely be high tier without the izuna, but what I was mainly just trying to point out was that I think Ayane and Hayate are better strikers than him. Well maybe not Ayane. Imo of course.
Ayane hitting the crane was pretty cool.
He'd still definitely be high tier without the izuna, but what I was mainly just trying to point out was that I think Ayane and Hayate are better strikers than him. Well maybe not Ayane. Imo of course.
AlphaDragoon
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Good luck on that, Ryu was OP in Dimensions too. XD
And I see the counter to Izuna Drop shenanigans are in full effect in DOA5 too. Haha.
Dimensions is just all of the DOAs put together with a few extra scenes here and there.
If the crush system is adjusted/removed, counters are nerfed, and a throw break is added (for command throws), the Hayabusa we currently know would automatically be nerfed.
hikarutilmitt
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I've been hoping with every iteration that they'd make a throw escaping system more like VFs, so maybe we'll see something like that implemented now that we've got some crossover to the series. Sidestepping actually being there and not total ass makes me think this may be the case.
BlackGoku03
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Can't wait to get this. I play DOA2 hard core on the PS2 once or twice a month. I'm still a beast at that game.
I recently played DOA4 on a friend's Xbox and owned him and his brother every round. I should be good to go on this new one... especially considering how beastly I am at Virtua Fighter 4.
I recently played DOA4 on a friend's Xbox and owned him and his brother every round. I should be good to go on this new one... especially considering how beastly I am at Virtua Fighter 4.