Pretty much. It makes sense, of course: Saves them money and consumers get better audio quality - if their receiver supports LPCM, that is.
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I think if you have a receiver that supports HDMI audio input, it'd support PCM, too. Besides, isn't uncompressed audio better than compressed audio? (ETA: That's a yes from wsippel)
Your receiver doesn't even do HDMI?
ipukespiders
Member
IrishNinja
Member
didnt even notice that before....fuuuuuuuuuuuuu
well, i was thinking of upgrading this year anyway, out of HDMI slots...
okay, shit, now i gotta make sure it supports this too.
many don't; why does some of GAF assume this? didn't this only become a standard in like '09 or so?
Zoramon089
Banned
Because...many do?
DarknessTear
Banned
No, it only does optical. It's a receiver from Sony Home Theater in a Box. It sounds amaaaazing.
IrishNinja
Member
not everyone upgrades their receivers every other year or so, so...many still don't.
What in the hell? is this true? :/
TouchMyBox
Member
NOPE
Fake.
There are no audio ports. There is an HDMI port, but that won't allow for audio because audio over HDMI would be digital, and that would mean that a Nintendo console would have digital audio.
Oh fuck, I probably should stop making jokes.
It's right in the spec sheet.
Nintendo said:
Stuff could change, but don't count on Nintendo paying money for an audio codec when they don't think it's necessary.
SixStringPsycho
Member
Sensor Bar?
But Nintendo consoles can have digital audio. In fact, I'm using a Wii2HDMI too hook up my system via HDMI cable and the audio works perfectly.
That sure is a bold statement considering we don't know absolutely anything about the final version of the console other than the fact that Nintendo will manufacture it.
For some people, that's enough to be worried.
Nintendo takes forever when it comes to conforming to industry standards.
-They never wanted to embrace optical media with the SNES or N64.
-They didn't wan't to embrace online gaming with the Game Cube.
-Demos
Then when they finally do adopt these things they half ass it.
- Optical media being proprietary and not a standard format.
- Online games but no patch support or DLC
- Demos with limited plays.
I just don't understand what Nintendo is thinking but i continue to buy their stuff.
-They never wanted to embrace optical media with the SNES or N64.
-They didn't wan't to embrace online gaming with the Game Cube.
-Demos
Then when they finally do adopt these things they half ass it.
- Optical media being proprietary and not a standard format.
- Online games but no patch support or DLC
- Demos with limited plays.
I just don't understand what Nintendo is thinking but i continue to buy their stuff.
Heh. Just mention Nintendo and some people won't give a shit and/or avoid it like the plague.
That said, nothing in these posts seems to...expand on anything other than "Nintendo has a new network service? Inverstors meeting perhaps?". No confirmation of anything plus tons of bitching about Wii U.
Well, people like that shouldn't really be worried about whether the thing will have an Ethernet port or not.
Fredrik
Member
Isn't this exactly the same thing as with the PS3? On the PS3 you can either choose Bitstream and then you'll let the receiver decode the audio stream, or you can choose Linear PCM and then the PS3 will decode the audio stream? It should be zero difference other than if you look at your audio input info, with Linear PCM your reciever says "Multi Channel PCM" or something like that and with Bitstream it says "DTS HD Master" or whatever.
The bad thing here is that you either need to have a reciever with HDMI inputs or a TV that can output DD/DTS through optical to get any type of surround from the WiiU.
electroplankton
Banned
Well, at least:
-they make sensors successful in video games
-they make touch screen successful in video games
-they introduce the analog and vibration
-they introduce 3D
Many players, like myself, like to run their HDMI cables directly to their TVs while running an Optical to the receiver to minimize video lag. You don't lost much audio fidelity at all and you get better input lag, than even if you do a video passthrough on HDMI through your receiver.
Like Apple, except their shit comes out half assed.
I was thinking more along the lines of the Nintendo...
...I'm hungry.
I hate you.
So like Apple?
HDMI audio passthrough not a standard confirmed.
EDIT: Chances are, they'll add Toslink audio to a cable run from the video out port or a 3rd-party will if Nintendo won't, so calm the fuck down.
And another thing? The "no Ethernet" whining? We don't even know for sure the system had a fucking Wi-Fi card in it at E3 and CES, because it's A DEMO UNIT and nothing on the show floors connected to the god-damned internet anyways.
Seriously, guys? Tiniest bit of thought does a world of good.
Fredrik
Member
You know, I never realized that video lag would be such a problem until just a few months ago when we got a new TV. Running the audio through optical directly to the receiver while running the video through HDMI directly to the TV made the video and audio run comletely out of sync. Even when running the TV in Game Mode and setting every single picture processing off there was lag. And the TV couldn't pass through DD/DTS through it's optical out, just stereo.
It all ended with me getting a new receiver. Now I'm running everything with HDMI through the receiver which acts as a HDMI switch. It works perfectly. But my wallet is still crying. :/
Game console internet connection options are some serious shit man.
Gotta leave room for progression, don't wanna blow yer load at the first opportunity, that's not good business
DXB-KNIGHT
Member
I still have my USB Ethernet port connected to my Wii.
It has more to do with how the packets are sent via wi-fi vs wired connection. Wired is more like "ping pong" and wi-fi is like "ping ping ping ping ping pong" and if it doesn't get 1 or 2 of the pings it just get dropped.
walking fiend
Member
These myths and wrong info about Wi-Fi not working almost perfectly as good as wired, will be a burden GAF will follow forever; at least until Nintendo puts a lan slot in its consoles.
fabricated backlash
Member
Wait so people shit on Nintendo for not supporting old standards?
WAT?
It's really mind boggling too as consoles and online gaming never even come close to max out a wireless signals bandwidth, let alone that packet loss and latency is practically identical between a well set up wireless and wired connection.
Then again, some people still think that the only reason they ever lose online is due to poor connection lol.
IrishNinja
Member
heh, yeah, when you put it like that, it is kinda funny.
They usually do a lot of stuff before it's industry standard, therefore it never catches on, like online play with SNES and N64, or connectivity with the Gamecube.
Mine doesn't. It's about 6-8 years old now I think. Nice receiver but no HDMI.
Moving to an HDMI only console would suck for me. I prefer to run my consoles through a receiver (For good sound and convenience as everything else I have runs through it) and component was fine for me. I will need to also invest in another receiver if I get a Wii U it seems - and that sucks.
test_account
XP-39C²
Atari 5200 had analog joystick, the same with Vectrex. And both Nintendo and Sony released rumble support pretty much at the exact same time (both in April 1997). But Nintendo have been good at making things popular several of times, that is true, eventhough they are not always the first to invent or use something.
thumb stick.
and no nintendo clearly had rumble first as well.
sony had dual thumbticks though that was a genius move as well, but looking through the ages and at current controllers nintendo def has had the biggest influence.
test_account
XP-39C²
Thumb stick perhaps, but it was not the first analog stick for a gaming system
About rumble, it seems that not many know this, but Sony released a dual analog controller in Japan that had rumble support. I dont think this controller ever made it outside of Japan, at least not with rumble support. This controller came out in April 1997, the same month that Nintendo came out with their rumble addon. I'm not sure about the exact dates, so one might have released some days before the other, but it was at least the same month, so i'd say it is pretty much the same time.